Is it Fair to Charge Religious People Online with Global Genocide?

[wizanda]

Over the last 15 years I've spent my time explaining religious issues to everyone online, showing where I'm Christ before Armageddon, the Great Tribulation, and Judgement Day.

Since people have rejected it all, whilst mocking me as a person, and literally leaving everyone else to die; does everyone think it is then fair to charge people with knowingly committing Genocide or Mass Murder of Humanity?

Lets explain the Great Tribulation quickly so you understand its contexts: It is the whole planets atmosphere destroyed, where God steps in to prevent the end of all life...

This will be caused by Armageddon in the Middle East over the religions, which we could have fixed on here; yet all of you wanted to argue it isn't real instead, are you aware of the consequences?

Do you think it's fair to be charged for ignoring religious textual warnings globally, and helping cause the end of humanity as we know it?

In my opinion.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

The problem is, people claiming to be divinely inspired are a dime a dozen. History shows that the real people, whether Jesus, etc. live horrible lives and sometimes their messages don't get 100% across to future generations.

I just don't see how you can win here. It's better that society rejects your message, than accepts it with you getting the attention of leaders, etc due to your large following and putting a target on yourself. I mean at that point, you're basically the next top celebrity, but worse.

I'm just not sure you have thought this all through. Also, saying "my followers can take responsibility for me" isn't the proper answer to my question either, I don't think.

So do you want your thoughts to be dismissed, or for yourself to be a real messiah which the world still doesn't understand, and the world will probably just seek to silence?

I think, you're just better off dropping the whole Messiah thing.

 

[Harel13]

Can I charge you with this claim? Because the way I see it, you continuously refuse to do more for mankind.

 

[Twilight Hue]

The only Armageddon is through natural forces. Like the sun going red giant or an asteroid impact.

Any person touting religious/mythological causes is just not going to be taken seriously for obvious reasons. There is just no base to place such fears upon.

 

[Laika]

Over the last 15 years I've spent my time explaining religious issues to everyone online, showing where I'm Christ before Armageddon, the Great Tribulation, and Judgement Day.

Since people have rejected it all, whilst mocking me as a person, and literally leaving everyone else to die; does everyone think it is then fair to charge people with knowingly committing Genocide or Mass Murder of Humanity?

Lets explain the Great Tribulation quickly so you understand its contexts: It is the whole planets atmosphere destroyed, where God steps in to prevent the end of all life...

This will be caused by Armageddon in the Middle East over the religions, which we could have fix on here; yet all of you wanted to argue it isn't real instead, are you aware of the consequences?

Do you think it's fair to be charged for ignoring religious textual warnings globally, and helping cause the end of humanity as we know it?

In my opinion.

Voted No. Having spent ten years associated with Communism my experience is charging people with genocide only puts them on the defensive and entrenches their views further. It is extremely difficult to untangle the web of moral responsibility that makes someone an "accomplice" purely by possessing the same set of ideas as people who were mass murderers. Nor does it get to the heart of why someone might believe such ideas in the first place.

I found that befriending people was a more effective way to get them to lower their defences and break the "enemy" image. Given the isolation I faced, there was no alternative. You see them in a more human light and they see you as more human too. Being on RF made clear that supporting a government that actively persecuted people simply for their faith was, if not wrong on paper, unthinkable given their decency, compassion and simple humanity. what difference would any list of reasons actually make to taking people's lives like that?

In the end, it was not the moral certainty of various accusers that won, but the moral uncertainty as to whether ANY cause could justify such a thing that won the argument. You look at a picture of a mass grave and wonder if any idea can justify that as desperate man-made construct. Some feeble excuse for existence when we are all flames trying not to get blown out in the darkness. Is there really any truth worth the lives of 100 million people that a state could produce to console the families who lost loved ones? I tried looking for one, and it was a sick exercise in emotional self-mutilation that has cost me dearly, but I never found it. I don't expect I ever will.

 

[wizanda]

If we understand that the Dajjal, Antichrist, Armilus is blind in a eye; this is similar to most of the people with a religious label, not looking at the overall contexts, as they choose to see only a part.

We live in a world of information, where if anyone read a few of the texts, they'd know this is real, and we have an opportunity like Jonah got Ninevah to repent, we can prevent it between us, by fixing the actions; yet none care to prevent the end of humanity.

We only have to fix the Abrahamic religions, which really is easy, and if we can not even fix that between us on here, as people have to be so argumentative to prove a point, it means the world remains separate; thus we won't get anywhere in the Middle East either.

Thus we clearly by our own declarations not to even participate in questioning to be wrong about our individual religious understanding, compared to being logical to see the whole of religion as understanding is the main problem.

Nations are divided, and fight over religions; instead of us understanding there is only One Us.

In my opinion.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I also want to clarify that when I spoke of "leaders", I meant world leaders and pre-existing world religious leaders.

 

[wizanda]

So do you want your thoughts to be dismissed, or for yourself to be a real messiah which the world still doesn't understand, and the world will probably just seek to silence?

I think, you're just better off dropping the whole Messiah thing.

It is like the Sword of Damocles above our head, we're doomed if I don't; as the Middle East fights over if Yeshua is who he said he was...

Thus literally only the Messiah can fix the Middle East, and I sit online, as there is no chance I'm traipsing off to Jerusalem again; until they say, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord."

For that to happen the Rabbinic Jews, Muhammadans, Christians would need to understand the contexts:

Which isn't going to happen in person, as people get too heated, isn't going to happen in live voice chat, again people miss too much, and get too frustrated - Religious Forum based conversation between us, is the safest method for communications.

In my opinion.

 

[Harel13]

as the Middle East fights over if Yeshua is who he said he was...

As a Middle-Easterner myself, I can tell you that that question is not at all a central, burning issue hereabouts.

 

[wizanda]

The only Armageddon is through natural forces.

Armageddon (G717) is from Hebrew origin (H2022) meaning a mountain, and (H4023) a rendezvous or gathering of people together.

It literally is a massive gathering of people against Jerusalem by its textual nature (Joel 3:2, Zechariah 12:3, Isaiah 29:7, Revelation 20:9, Isaiah 13:4, Ezekiel 32:18, Ezekiel 39:11, Zephaniah 2:1-2, etc).

Like the sun going red giant or an asteroid impact.

These happen at the same time in Revelation 8-9, Revelation 16, since without an atmosphere from what sounds a nuclear holocaust in the texts; the planet is then helpless, and dies from the fallout which blacksout the sun.

Thus it is called the Great Tribulation as a separate wording to Armageddon, one is the War of all Wars, and the other is the end of life on earth, before the Source steps in.

Any person touting religious/mythological causes is just not going to be taken seriously for obvious reasons. There is just no base to place such fears upon.

There is overwhelming evidence from the world's religious texts to prove I'm sent from Heaven with a sacred name in all religion; the knowledge I've shared on how to fix global religion is in advanced of most.

What you've basically just said is people will always be stupid don't bother trying, and wait for the end of humanity as you see no point.

• Sandalphon (Judaism),
• Yeshua (Sananda) (New Name of Christ),
• Kalki/Skanda/Sanananda (Hinduism),
• Ahura Mazda + Saoshyant (Zand = Exegesis) (Zoroastrianism),
• Maitreya (Ananda) (Buddhism),
• Our Elohim Zion (Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7),
• etc.

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

As a Middle-Easterner myself, I can tell you that that question is not at all a central, burning issue hereabouts.

Well this makes it more crucial for people to understand, and yet they don't try as if everyone's life depends upon it.

The divide between Islam is that they say the Jews edited the scriptures; John, Paul, and Simon are made up by the Pharisees.

Ezekiel 22:3 literally says Israel are fighting their own idols, and are about to destroy yourself over the consequences; as Messiah we could stop it, yet people don't care to try.

Thus when the Holy Quantum Fire of salvation comes to stop the fighting between everyone (Ezekiel 22:19-22), 'then it will be understood, Yeshua is the Word of the Lord'.

In my opinion.

 

[Spirit of Light]

It is like the Sword of Damocles above our head, we're doomed if I don't; as the Middle East fights over if Yeshua is who he said he was...

Thus literally only the Messiah can fix the Middle East, and I sit online, as there is no chance I'm traipsing off to Jerusalem again; until they say, "Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord."

For that to happen the Rabbinic Jews, Muhammadans, Christians would need to understand the contexts:

Which isn't going to happen in person, as people get too heated, isn't going to happen in live voice chat, again people miss too much, and get too frustrated - Religious Forum based conversation between us, is the safest method for communications.

In my opinion.

It look like you want everyone else to do the "dirty work" for you. then when things become better, you come forth and want the glory?? If i understood the real Messiah from 2000 years ago, he spoke truth and people started to see him as a Messiah because they Wanted to, not because the Messiah pushed them to " You must believe ME"
When you speak it is a lot about "ME ME ME ME" so honestly sound more like you expect people to follow you just because you say you are Messiah. And as you say, you have been online for 15 years. Jesus was 4-5 years of when he become enlighten and was able to give true teaching, and he really surprised and silent the scholars in the temple, because Jesus knew the teaching better than them even he at the time was a child. Jesus taught for about 25-27 years of his life

Buddha Sakyamuni spends 40 years spreading his teaching after he becomes enlighten (he used 6 years to become enlighten) and experienced that many people did not believe him. But he carried on, and become more and more enlighten the more he cultivated even after the first. enlightenment moment And look at what form of spiritual teaching we have from both Jesus and Sakyamuni

And you wish to give up after 15 years because 50-60 people in a forum disagree with who you claim to be?

IS the quest you are on to say people you must do the work your self, but I want to take the glory when it happens?
Or are you going to actually give teaching that can enlighten people?
In the many discussions we have had, you also said you are not an enlightened being. My question is then, how can you save people with your words when you do not see the full truth your self as a non-enlighten being?

I do not try to attack you, I only want you to open your eyes to see that, this is not about you as a person, if you are Messiah you are the one who should lead others. then it becomes all about your teaching and if it "holds water" people will follow you.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Armageddon (G717) is from Hebrew origin (H2022) meaning a mountain, and (H4023) a rendezvous or gathering of people together.

It literally is a massive gathering of people against Jerusalem by its textual nature (Joel 3:2, Zechariah 12:3, Isaiah 29:7, Revelation 20:9, Isaiah 13:4, Ezekiel 32:18, Ezekiel 39:11, Zephaniah 2:1-2, etc).

These happen at the same time in Revelation 8-9, Revelation 16, since without an atmosphere from what sounds a nuclear holocaust in the texts; the planet is then helpless, and dies from the fallout which blacksout the sun.

Thus it is called the Great Tribulation as a separate wording to Armageddon, one is the War of all Wars, and the other is the end of life on earth, before the Source steps in.

There is overwhelming evidence from the world's religious texts to prove I'm sent from Heaven with a sacred name in all religion; the knowledge I've shared on how to fix global religion is in advanced of most.

What you've basically just said is people will always be stupid don't bother trying, and wait for the end of humanity as you see no point.

• Sandalphon (Judaism),
• Yeshua (Sananda) (New Name of Christ),
• Kalki/Skanda/Sanananda (Hinduism),
• Ahura Mazda + Saoshyant (Zand = Exegesis) (Zoroastrianism),
• Maitreya (Ananda) (Buddhism),
• Our Elohim Zion (Psalms 146:10, Psalms 147:12, Isaiah 52:7),
• etc.

In my opinion.

Does not the bible also say that ALL jews will be in Jerusalem before Armageddon? So far that is not near what happens, even Israel does try to make room for more Jews in today's world

 

[wizanda]

You look at a picture of a mass grave and wonder if any idea can justify that as desperate man-made construct.

The mass graves exist, as some people didn't notice, and speak up at the time or do something to be a force opposite to the problem.

We have the potential on here to fix world religion, this isn't even far fetched; people just literally don't care.

Thus instead of us working towards a solution; we are the problem causing the end results.

Being just friendly with murderers, who don't actually acknowledge their actions are pushing others to their deaths, isn't wise; it is better to try to educate them in some way, even if they hate you for trying to prevent them.

In my opinion.

 

[Harel13]

Well this makes it more crucial for people to understand, and yet they don't try as if everyone's life depends upon it.

Mate, please go and explain this to the folks at the peace-talks table, because you're right: people's life depends on this. Israelis and Arabs alike are dying because of this. If you have The Truth and are keeping it to yourself and some random internet forum and letting the Middle-Easterners continue their mindless blood-shed, you're no better than anyone else. You're passively allowing genocide.

 

[wizanda]

Does not the bible also say that ALL jews will be in Jerusalem before Armageddon?

No it says the Zionist will come against Jerusalem, with the Tribes of Israel defending Jerusalem (Ezekiel 39:2-6); Muslims are in alignment with Moses, not the Christian-Zionists.

And you wish to give up after 15 years because 50-60 people in a forum disagree with who you claim to be?

I'm here in the Maya before the End of Time to warn mankind; not to make disciples near Hell.

If you study the texts of Zhuan-Falun - Li Hongzhi is in alignment with prophecy in the Divine Incantations; where it is citing the Final Battle is soon, and then the Age of Magic - Where the Unenlightened Demons are all removed.

Let us put it this way, Li Hongzhi has impress us slightly, and might qualify for the age to come; we're not looking for his followers.

We're on Religious Forums looking for people to fix their own religions, so they don't kill each other; by explaining their religious texts as One, before the End of Time.

If people choose not to help save humanity, personally see it as a reason to deem them guilty of genocide.

We don't want them following some idol, as keeps being imposed; we want them to understand reality is all mathematics:

Where religion should be about understanding advanced science of biology, and dimensional quantum physics; not some pseudo ideas, where humanity is about to fight each other over their superstitions.

In my opinion.

 

[Harel13]

No it says the Zionist will come against Jerusalem, with the Tribes of Israel defending Jerusalem (Ezekiel 39:2-6); Muslims are in alignment with Moses, not the Christian-Zionists.

I see no mention of "Zionists" here.

 

[wizanda]

Mate, please go and explain this to the folks at the peace-talks table, because you're right: people's life depends on this. Israelis and Arabs alike are dying because of this. If you have The Truth and are keeping it to yourself and some random internet forum and letting the Middle-Easterners continue their mindless blood-shed, you're no better than anyone else. You're passively allowing genocide.

This is true, yet when people who are scholarly on here do not care, and these are the same type of people I'd need to converse with, there is very little potential unless some people are realistic online first.

In person people get violent, when you explain everything they've known is wrong; even my own mum flips out on certain aspects, as she can not handle this could mean her whole world is a lie.

Prove some care about understanding salvation for mankind on here, and the world can then follow; if people on here don't care to study religion - Why would anyone else, who has far less time?

In my opinion.

 

[Harel13]

This is true, yet when people who are scholarly on here do not care, and these are the same type of people I'd need to converse with, there is very little potential unless some people are realistic online first.

In person people get violent, when you explain everything they've known is wrong; even my own mum flips out on certain aspects, as she can not handle this could mean her whole world is a lie.

Prove some care about understanding salvation for mankind on here, and the world can then follow; if people on here don't care to study religion - Why would anyone else, who has far less time?

In my opinion.

Mate, that is just archangel-awfully lazy of you.

 

[wizanda]

I see no mention of "Zionists" here.

In Zechariah 12:1-6 is the Blinded Rabbinic Jews fighting over Jerusalem, where they think the spirit of God is in the place.

They have been over the flock since the 2nd Temple Destruction in Zechariah 11:15-17, teaching about their own teachings, and rejecting the Tanakh is about Yeshua (H3444).

Where the Curse has blinded many (Zechariah 12:4, Deuteronomy 28:28-29), to seeing the spirit of Teshuvah was put into the Messiah (Isaiah 5:3), and removed from the Temple.

Mate, that is just archangel-awfully lazy of you.

Having had 'The Seventh Beggar' who has a PHD in Kabbalah on Paltalk, tell me I'm a complete waste of space for 13 years...

Whilst being suicidally depressed through most of it; I've sort of lost all hope in people, and they now scare me - especially Rabbinic Jews, where I've been led to believe they are all mental, from their reactions online.

In my opinion.