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The airing of grievances..

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
A good friendship would be nice, but I feel like I'm need of new friends... seems like I get to a point where I wear out friendship, I don't have anything new to say to them unless I only talk to them once every two months.
Same.

Never found anyone I really gel with completely either in this life.. ah well
The more I learn... the lonelier I feel sometimes... I'm not quite sure what to make of it... except that it makes it harder to "gel" with people.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Wow, that is shocking, I wish there was something I could do to help you but however I'm just an educated homeless guy my deepest sympathies though hopefully things get better!
It's great having you here. Your perspective is unique. And I think that makes it very valuable.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Why exactly is being alone a negative thing,
Anxiety, depression, heart disease, early death, drug abuse, obesity, and a host of other mental and physical health problems, some of them serious, are things you are at a higher risk for if you are chronically alone. Of course not everyone has the same needs, but we all need some sort of interaction at least occasionally.
if you don't agree with everything everybody says! Oops did I say that?
That's a rather unrealistic view of things.
 

Alone

Banned by request
Anxiety, depression, heart disease, early death, drug abuse, obesity, and a host of other mental and physical health problems, some of them serious, are things you are at a higher risk for if you are chronically alone. Of course not everyone has the same needs, but we all need some sort of interaction at least occasionally.

That's a rather unrealistic view of things.
Okay I'll give you anxiety and depression, but I'm basically healthy as an ox although I'm not the average human being or ape according to some people's opinion, I am 43 and basically been on my own since I was 14, so only two of the six that you mentioned and however many others you didn't mention apply that doesn't really say that it's unhealthy?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I don’t think any chimps, meerkats or kookaburras ever decided to live alone.
And they wouldn’t have survived long.
No. They wouldn't. We like to think we could, but at best, at the absolute best, we can end up living like Tom Hanks in Castaway, including developing the mentally that has you talking to an inanimate object just to have some sort of conversation and facet of socialization, just with something that has something that looks like a face. Better than that, it's probably not going to happen because there is no avoiding your mental state reaching a point where it has been ravaged, wrecked, and becomes significantly ill.
That is probably why I was a sitting duck for narcissists.
Unfortunately, we are targets for many bad types because, until we've learned and maybe dealt with it, we just don't know or realize what's going on, or how to react. And even sometimes not perceive danger, and self-advocacy is also known for sometimes being a concern/issue.
But, interestingly, reading studies looking at those born in the 90s--those digital natives who grew up with cell phones, computers, and the internet--are really struggling socially in ways that seem a bit similar to Asperger's. Fewer friends, fewer partners, fewer connections, and way more isolation than is healthy. One study I read (this year to keep it OP related) looking at those in their 20s even said they like staying in, they thinks it's a great thing staying in, and very largely by their poll think it's too much effort getting ready and actually going out. They'd rather stay in.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Okay I'll give you anxiety and depression, but I'm basically healthy as an ox although I'm not the average human being or ape according to some people's opinion, I am 43 and basically been on my own since I was 14, so only two of the six that you mentioned and however many others you didn't mention apply that doesn't really say that it's unhealthy?
Well, saying "according to some people's" indicates you may not be as isolated as you think.
But, if I must, I can post a wall of sources about how devastating chronic isolation is to our physical and mental health. Psychologically, a diet of isolation is just as bad is a diet of fast food is bad for our physical health.
 

Alone

Banned by request
Well, saying "according to some people's" indicates you may not be as isolated as you think.
But, if I must, I can post a wall of sources about how devastating chronic isolation is to our physical and mental health. Psychologically, a diet of isolation is just as bad is a diet of fast food is bad for our physical health.
Well..... I got those opinions from this website that does not make me interactive with people that makes me interactive with the internet?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Well..... I got those opinions from this website that does not make me interactive with people that makes me interactive with the internet?
Well, I can't really comment on your health status, but I know plenty of people who do believe they are healthy but they aren't. However, ultimately, your health is compromised by chronic isolation. You might as well deprive your body of vitamins and minerals. Or sleep. Socializing with others is something we need as a part of being healthy. So much that there is a strong link between our satisfaction with our relationships with others and our satisfaction with life that it appears we can accurately predict those who had satisfactory relationships with others will live longer. They're also far less likely to carry out suicide. And, overall, even if they aren't dying and looking back on life, those with positive and satisfactory relations with others tend to be in overall better health.
Isolation just is not good for us.
 

Alone

Banned by request
Well, I can't really comment on your health status, but I know plenty of people who do believe they are healthy but they aren't. However, ultimately, your health is compromised by chronic isolation. You might as well deprive your body of vitamins and minerals. Or sleep. Socializing with others is something we need as a part of being healthy. So much that there is a strong link between our satisfaction with our relationships with others and our satisfaction with life that it appears we can accurately predict those who had satisfactory relationships with others will live longer. They're also far less likely to carry out suicide. And, overall, even if they aren't dying and looking back on life, those with positive and satisfactory relations with others tend to be in overall better health.
Isolation just is not good for us.
Okay I totally understand what you're saying, but be careful cuz you're almost proving what I just said about not agreeing with people, I'm not agreeing with being alone is unhealthy, if you would like I could just say that I'm unhealthy even though I'm not, if that's what you would prefer, and to go a step further maybe I don't value life that much, so then it really wouldn't matter how long I live or not? Unhealthy and healthy people die, some sooner than others it really is not based on healthiness or not.?
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Okay I totally understand what you're saying, but be careful cuz you're almost proving what I just said about not agreeing with people,
People disagree. It's unrealistic for everyone to disagree and agree with everyone on everything. But that's doesn't really matter. Such as here, those of us in the farthest corners of the political/economic compass get along pretty well, even though there are obviously some pretty strong disagreements over certain things. But oh well.
As I said, I can't comment on your health. Maybe you are just fine. Maybe your not and you don't realize it. What I do know are what numerous studies suggest. And they conclude, overall, that chronic isolation is a killer.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Okay I'll give you anxiety and depression, but I'm basically healthy as an ox although I'm not the average human being or ape according to some people's opinion, I am 43 and basically been on my own since I was 14, so only two of the six that you mentioned and however many others you didn't mention apply that doesn't really say that it's unhealthy?
Statistically speaking... connecting with people increases life expectancy. That's the research that I remember hearing about, I might be able to go dig up the actual published report on it... but it's still just statistics... that means... there will be outliers.
 

Alone

Banned by request
It's great having you here. Your perspective is unique. And I think that makes it very valuable.
I was somehow not sure exactly how, able to dodge the bullets from the evolution versus creation forum and now I've been followed to this forum I was having a lot of fun oh, what happened, I'm not here to argue, hello.,....... Now instead of being called an ape, a Christian fundamentalist, and uneducated which I admitted, now my health is in question LOL!!!, (not that I actually care about my health anyways everybody dies sooner or later) about ready to take that one guy's advice, and get some warning pointe then Ican be banned (not that that's actually what I want) I've never been banned from anything but I guess there's a first time for everything!
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I was somehow not sure exactly how, able to dodge the bullets from the evolution versus creation forum and now I've been followed to this forum I was having a lot of fun oh, what happened, I'm not here to argue, hello.,....... Now instead of being called an ape, a Christian fundamentalist, and uneducated which I admitted, now my health is in question LOL!!!, (not that I actually care about my health anyways everybody dies sooner or later) about ready to take that one guy's advice, and get some warning pointe then Ican be banned (not that that's actually what I want) I've never been banned from anything but I guess there's a first time for everything!
It's just because they care... that's all. I think when people offer help or encourage medical intervention, it's because they do not see illness as negative. They see illness as normal.

Does that help?
 

Alone

Banned by request
Statistically speaking... connecting with people increases life expectancy. That's the research that I remember hearing about, I might be able to go dig up the actual published report on it... but it's still just statistics... that means... there will be outliers.
And you know from the conversations we have had I mean absolutely no disrespect, however if I do not value life then it doesn't matter, statistics are only relevant to those who put a value on their life right?
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
And you know from the conversations we have had I mean absolutely no disrespect, however if I do not value life then it doesn't matter, statistics are only relevant to those who put a value on their life right?
Right. You're an outlier. Statistics are meaningless.
 

Alone

Banned by request
I guess I'm just a little too sensitive is what it looks like LOL, sorry about that guys, according to my other post about purpose of life doesn't really matter if I'm isolated or not there really is no purpose anyways so what's the difference?
 
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