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Hi, My name is Lamech

I was sitting in the Garden, just staring into the campfire, musing about things.


Hi, My name is Lamech.

I'm the new kid on the block and I was sitting around the campfire at night, listening to the stories of the elders, finally getting up the courage to ask my grandfather Enoch, "Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

I noticed a sudden quiet around that ancient campfire, a looking for a place to not be noticed, a feeling of somehow having violated an ancient rule... When Grandfather Enoch broke the silence to say "I really don't know. We could go ask My grandfather Mahaliel."

Taking me by the hand, Enoch began to search around the campfires, and finally spotted his aged grandfather Mahaliel, leaning upon an old tree. Approaching together, Enoch warned his grandson,(that's me) "Now let me do the talking." I was only too glad to agree, as I was in total awe of the elders in whose company I was constantly made aware.

Enoch approached his ancient progenitor once removed and inquired," Grampa, may we ask you a question?"

Mahaleil thought for a moment and responded "I guess one question won't hurt. What is it?"

"What happened in the Garden Grampa," Enoch asked.

"Why, I don't know," responded Mahaliel. "I suppose we could go ask my Grampa Enos."

By now I was beginning to wish I had kept my question to myself, as this was beginning to bring to my mind, the attention of some of the really ancient men of the camps.

But, too late. Off we went to find Grampa Enos. Around many fires we went. Around many fires we looked, and around many fires we inquired as to the whereabouts of Grampa Enos.

Finally one ancient lady whose name we could not even remember, pointed in a direction with a nod of her head.

Off we went. Not long after, we spotted a campfire we had already looked at and ignored because it was so small. To the camp we trudged, and upon approaching the elder, and with no introductory remarks whatsoever, inquired "Grampy, what happened in the garden."

Grampa Enos shook his ancient head, and with a voice scarcely above a whisper, said "I don't know.... Let's go ask grandfather Adam."

I Now realized an enormity to what I had started that I hadn't imagined when I first gave voice to my curiosity. With a little fear and a little more trembling, I took Grampa's Grampa Enoch's hand; and Enoch took his Grampa Mahaliel's hand, and Mahaliel took his Grampa Enos's hand, and we all took off through the woods looking for the campfire of Enos's grandfather, Adam.

After searching for a long time, we spotted a little campfire back in a woody area that they had not seen before. Approaching quietly and respectfully, Enos said "Alright now, all you kids stay quiet, and let me ask the question." To which we all agreed.

We approached the campfire, and greeted Grandfather Adam, who was glad to see so many of his extended family all out for a very rare visit. Enos wasted no time. "Grandfather Adam, can I ask you a question?"

"Well, I guess one question won't do any harm," replied the old man.

"Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

Hushed silence. Not a breath stirred. Total silence. Adam's eyes filled with tears, as he sought out one from beside the fire. He reached out and an ancient woman rose from the fire's side, and he reached out to her with not a word. I noticed her eyes were filled with tears also. They took each other's hand, and speaking no words, turned and went off into the forest, silently weeping, and with only an occasional sound of heartfelt agony, disappeared for many a day.

I never asked another question of my elders.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
I was sitting in the Garden, just staring into the campfire, musing about things.


Hi, My name is Lamech.

I'm the new kid on the block and I was sitting around the campfire at night, listening to the stories of the elders, finally getting up the courage to ask my grandfather Enoch, "Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

I noticed a sudden quiet around that ancient campfire, a looking for a place to not be noticed, a feeling of somehow having violated an ancient rule... When Grandfather Enoch broke the silence to say "I really don't know. We could go ask My grandfather Mahaliel."

Taking me by the hand, Enoch began to search around the campfires, and finally spotted his aged grandfather Mahaliel, leaning upon an old tree. Approaching together, Enoch warned his grandson,(that's me) "Now let me do the talking." I was only too glad to agree, as I was in total awe of the elders in whose company I was constantly made aware.

Enoch approached his ancient progenitor once removed and inquired," Grampa, may we ask you a question?"

Mahaleil thought for a moment and responded "I guess one question won't hurt. What is it?"

"What happened in the Garden Grampa," Enoch asked.

"Why, I don't know," responded Mahaliel. "I suppose we could go ask my Grampa Enos."

By now I was beginning to wish I had kept my question to myself, as this was beginning to bring to my mind, the attention of some of the really ancient men of the camps.

But, too late. Off we went to find Grampa Enos. Around many fires we went. Around many fires we looked, and around many fires we inquired as to the whereabouts of Grampa Enos.

Finally one ancient lady whose name we could not even remember, pointed in a direction with a nod of her head.

Off we went. Not long after, we spotted a campfire we had already looked at and ignored because it was so small. To the camp we trudged, and upon approaching the elder, and with no introductory remarks whatsoever, inquired "Grampy, what happened in the garden."

Grampa Enos shook his ancient head, and with a voice scarcely above a whisper, said "I don't know.... Let's go ask grandfather Adam."

I Now realized an enormity to what I had started that I hadn't imagined when I first gave voice to my curiosity. With a little fear and a little more trembling, I took Grampa's Grampa Enoch's hand; and Enoch took his Grampa Mahaliel's hand, and Mahaliel took his Grampa Enos's hand, and we all took off through the woods looking for the campfire of Enos's grandfather, Adam.

After searching for a long time, we spotted a little campfire back in a woody area that they had not seen before. Approaching quietly and respectfully, Enos said "Alright now, all you kids stay quiet, and let me ask the question." To which we all agreed.

We approached the campfire, and greeted Grandfather Adam, who was glad to see so many of his extended family all out for a very rare visit. Enos wasted no time. "Grandfather Adam, can I ask you a question?"

"Well, I guess one question won't do any harm," replied the old man.

"Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

Hushed silence. Not a breath stirred. Total silence. Adam's eyes filled with tears, as he sought out one from beside the fire. He reached out and an ancient woman rose from the fire's side, and he reached out to her with not a word. I noticed her eyes were filled with tears also. They took each other's hand, and speaking no words, turned and went off into the forest, silently weeping, and with only an occasional sound of heartfelt agony, disappeared for many a day.

I never asked another question of my elders.

Adam died about 40 years before Noah's birth.
Did the world sit up and take notice and wonder if God was about to do something big?
 
Adam died about 40 years before Noah's birth.
Did the world sit up and take notice and wonder if God was about to do something big?

Read Genesis the sixth chapter, first half. That is the chapter that speaks to us about the flood that wiped MAN from the earth, except for eight persons.

The world jumped up and began to play.....
(That just means they ignored Noah)
 

Workman

UNIQUE
I was sitting in the Garden, just staring into the campfire, musing about things.


Hi, My name is Lamech.

I'm the new kid on the block and I was sitting around the campfire at night, listening to the stories of the elders, finally getting up the courage to ask my grandfather Enoch, "Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

I noticed a sudden quiet around that ancient campfire, a looking for a place to not be noticed, a feeling of somehow having violated an ancient rule... When Grandfather Enoch broke the silence to say "I really don't know. We could go ask My grandfather Mahaliel."

Taking me by the hand, Enoch began to search around the campfires, and finally spotted his aged grandfather Mahaliel, leaning upon an old tree. Approaching together, Enoch warned his grandson,(that's me) "Now let me do the talking." I was only too glad to agree, as I was in total awe of the elders in whose company I was constantly made aware.

Enoch approached his ancient progenitor once removed and inquired," Grampa, may we ask you a question?"

Mahaleil thought for a moment and responded "I guess one question won't hurt. What is it?"

"What happened in the Garden Grampa," Enoch asked.

"Why, I don't know," responded Mahaliel. "I suppose we could go ask my Grampa Enos."

By now I was beginning to wish I had kept my question to myself, as this was beginning to bring to my mind, the attention of some of the really ancient men of the camps.

But, too late. Off we went to find Grampa Enos. Around many fires we went. Around many fires we looked, and around many fires we inquired as to the whereabouts of Grampa Enos.

Finally one ancient lady whose name we could not even remember, pointed in a direction with a nod of her head.

Off we went. Not long after, we spotted a campfire we had already looked at and ignored because it was so small. To the camp we trudged, and upon approaching the elder, and with no introductory remarks whatsoever, inquired "Grampy, what happened in the garden."

Grampa Enos shook his ancient head, and with a voice scarcely above a whisper, said "I don't know.... Let's go ask grandfather Adam."

I Now realized an enormity to what I had started that I hadn't imagined when I first gave voice to my curiosity. With a little fear and a little more trembling, I took Grampa's Grampa Enoch's hand; and Enoch took his Grampa Mahaliel's hand, and Mahaliel took his Grampa Enos's hand, and we all took off through the woods looking for the campfire of Enos's grandfather, Adam.

After searching for a long time, we spotted a little campfire back in a woody area that they had not seen before. Approaching quietly and respectfully, Enos said "Alright now, all you kids stay quiet, and let me ask the question." To which we all agreed.

We approached the campfire, and greeted Grandfather Adam, who was glad to see so many of his extended family all out for a very rare visit. Enos wasted no time. "Grandfather Adam, can I ask you a question?"

"Well, I guess one question won't do any harm," replied the old man.

"Grandfather, what happened in the garden?"

Hushed silence. Not a breath stirred. Total silence. Adam's eyes filled with tears, as he sought out one from beside the fire. He reached out and an ancient woman rose from the fire's side, and he reached out to her with not a word. I noticed her eyes were filled with tears also. They took each other's hand, and speaking no words, turned and went off into the forest, silently weeping, and with only an occasional sound of heartfelt agony, disappeared for many a day.

I never asked another question of my elders.
Very nice my good friend...

and as you said; Adam disappeared after many of the day..but He will Return..Yes indeed he will..Adam was the first Man byGod to live..He will return to be the Last Man to die.

Mark my word.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Very nice my good friend...

and as you said; Adam disappeared after many of the day..but He will Return..Yes indeed he will..Adam was the first Man byGod to live..He will return to be the Last Man to die.

Mark my word.

Adam already died...

On the subject of Noah, interestingly the Chinese pictograph word for large boat
has 8 people in a vessel ... like Noah's ark
BOAT = VESSEL + PERSONS + NUMBER 8

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Workman

UNIQUE
Adam already died...

On the subject of Noah, interestingly the Chinese pictograph word for large boat
has 8 people in a vessel ... like Noah's ark
BOAT = VESSEL + PERSONS + NUMBER 8

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So you say..

From what I understand..HE did not die..yet!
And the reason was WHY my thousand years are now at rest..on THE SABBATH DAY. Without Adam..The Sabbath Day would not be, Nor it would we.

God bless
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
So you say..

From what I understand..HE did not die..yet!
And the reason was WHY my thousand years are now at rest..on THE SABBATH DAY. Without Adam..The Sabbath Day would not be, Nor it would we.

God bless

It seems Noah birth was after Adam;s death

see a calculation by How many years were between Adam and Eve, and Noah?

oah was born in year 1056. Adam however lived to be 930 years old as found in Genesis 5:5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. So if you take the year of Noah's birth 1056 and subtract the years of Adam's life (remember he was born in year 0) then you get 1056 - 930 = 126. So Noah was born 126 years after Adam died.

As regarding Eve the Scriptures do not give an age when she died.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Here's something to chew on, my friends: Adam Kadmon, the primordial Adam:

Adam Kadmon - Wikipedia

"Adam Kadmon is anthropomorphic. Nonetheless, Adam Kadmon is divine light without vessels, i.e., pure potential. In the human psyche, Adam Kadmon corresponds to the yechidah, the collective essence of the soul."

If I understand this correctly, which is about 50/50 odds at best, it implies everything is Adam.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
Here's something to chew on, my friends: Adam Kadmon, the primordial Adam:

Adam Kadmon - Wikipedia

"Adam Kadmon is anthropomorphic. Nonetheless, Adam Kadmon is divine light without vessels, i.e., pure potential. In the human psyche, Adam Kadmon corresponds to the yechidah, the collective essence of the soul."

If I understand this correctly, which is about 50/50 odds at best, it implies everything is Adam.

And let's not forget Lillith !!

Actually, I will pass on Lillith as there is no Biblical support for her either.

Wasn't she a character on the original show Cheers!!
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
Wasn't she a character on the original show Cheers!!

You are hilarious, Frazier's wife. I kinda liked her back in the day... It's off-topic, but we are just chatting it up in the Garden... by the campfire
 
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