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Christian Atheism

ZenMonkey

St. James VII
I view it like good and evil, light and darkness, hot and cold, etc. It's almost oxymoronic or paradoxical but it really isn't. It just seems to be. I'm officially declaring myself a Christian Atheist, which has yet to be but has also already been clearly defined. Do you believe me, or in Christian Atheism is belief required to be a "Christian Atheist"?

I'd LOVE to discuss this one with whoever might be willing. Should be fun. Here's why? Jesus was said to not be willing that any just perish, that he didn't come to condemn but to give an abundant life, yet so many condemn and demand that we be like them, which I would assume is the reason there are like over 2000 different christian denominations. I haven't registered Christian Atheism as a religion ... yet ... but who knows, I may or someone else may, or some may say NO WAY! But I say yes way because that is in a nut shell "my way".
 
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ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I view it like good and evil, light and darkness, hot and cold, etc. It's almost oxymoronic or paradoxical but it really isn't. It just seems to be. I'm officially declaring myself a Christian Atheist, which has yet to be but has also already been clearly defined. Do you believe me, or in Christian Atheism is belief required to be a "Christian Atheist"?

I'd LOVE to discuss this one with whoever might be willing. Should be fun. Here's why? Jesus was said to not be willing that any just perish, that he didn't come to condemn but to give an abundant life, yet so many condemns and demand that we be like them, which I would assume is the reason there are like over 2000 different christian denominations. I haven't registered Christian Atheism as a religion ... yet ... but who knows, I may or someone else may, or some may say NO WAY! But I say yes way because that is in a nut shell "my way".
That depends how you define the terms. I see nothing contradictory, for example, about being an atheist who espouses the values ascribed to Jesus Christ, and a being considered "Christian" in that sense without necessarily believing in claims of divinity.

But how do you define being a Christian atheist?
 

ZenMonkey

St. James VII
That depends how you define the terms. I see nothing contradictory, for example, about being an atheist who espouses the values ascribed to Jesus Christ, and a being considered "Christian" in that sense without necessarily believing in claims of divinity.

But how do you define being a Christian atheist?


Christian Atheist - Definition: Someone who honors life and truth. I guess it boils down to that concise definition.
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
Christian Atheist - Definition: Someone who honors life and truth. I guess it boils down to that concise definition.
That seems kind of broad. By that definition, I would consider myself a Christian atheist. Heck, most non-atheists and non-Christians would probably fit that definition too.

Why do you specifically consider such a position "Christian Atheism"?
 

ZenMonkey

St. James VII
That seems kind of broad. By that definition, I would consider myself a Christian atheist. Heck, most non-atheists and non-Christians would probably fit that definition too.

Why do you specifically consider such a position "Christian Atheism"?

I guess because how I view God. God=Life or rather All there is, was, and will ever be. Beyond that, I like truth, and honesty. When you're honest guess what? You don't feel the need to hide from anything. Why would you? I'm how i am for a reason, you're how you are for a reason. I enjoy what I enjoy for a reason. You enjoy what you enjoy for a reason. That's true. It's also true that we enjoy what we enjoy. Why hide it?
 

ImmortalFlame

Woke gremlin
I guess because how I view God. God=Life or rather All there is, was, and will ever be. Beyond that, I like truth, and honesty. When you're honest guess what? You don't feel the need to hide from anything. Why would you? I'm how i am for a reason, you're how you are for a reason. I enjoy what I enjoy for a reason. You enjoy what you enjoy for a reason. That's true. It's also true that we enjoy what we enjoy. Why hide it?
But what does any of this have to do with either Christianity or atheism?
 

ZenMonkey

St. James VII
As someone who honors life and truth but isn't a Christian, I suggest you not try to co-opt beliefs that belong to a wide range of people this way.

That's the entire point. It's a religion that you can claim or not ... just like any other. Geesh, it's not like I'm saying hey you ... yes you ... come a little closer. I have something to say. Yes you .... I'm not pulling woll over your eyes either. You can come or not, but I do have something to say. You can read or not, but I'm gonna say it either way. You can agree or not. It doesn't matter either way. Just like everything else in life, aside from a few who think everyone needs to think like them.
 

ZenMonkey

St. James VII
Birds of the same feather with different names right? Secular humanism Christian Atheist. The only difference is I can support Christian Atheism with scripture and use religious terms and be ok with it.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Yeah, just discard God and take away the divine attributes of Jesus and you would be a Christian Atheist, like I am a strong atheist Hindu.
I guess because how I view God. God=Life or rather All there is, was, and will ever be.
If you want to be an atheist, you have to discard God TOTALLY, use some other term for what exists.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
I view it like good and evil, light and darkness, hot and cold, etc. It's almost oxymoronic or paradoxical but it really isn't. It just seems to be. I'm officially declaring myself a Christian Atheist, which has yet to be but has also already been clearly defined. Do you believe me, or in Christian Atheism is belief required to be a "Christian Atheist"?

I'd LOVE to discuss this one with whoever might be willing. Should be fun. Here's why? Jesus was said to not be willing that any just perish, that he didn't come to condemn but to give an abundant life, yet so many condemns and demand that we be like them, which I would assume is the reason there are like over 2000 different christian denominations. I haven't registered Christian Atheism as a religion ... yet ... but who knows, I may or someone else may, or some may say NO WAY! But I say yes way because that is in a nut shell "my way".

I do see a contradiction. Why don't you say you're Christian?

The technical term atheists don't believe in deities. But you still believe in God/life. So you believe in a different view of god than most Christians but the Bible doesn't describe "what" god is.

You believe in God. Which you could say atheist of you go by the technical definition. I don't know if atheists can describe the god they don't believe in. So it's more laying with definitions
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Christian Atheist - Definition: Someone who honors life and truth. I guess it boils down to that concise definition.
I guess that would be changing the definition of Christian.

A Christian isn't just the one who acts out honoring life and truth (though great that you do) but also one who in the heart has believed to become a Christian. Much the same as God said about the circumcision. Not of the flesh but of the heart.

Of course, taking one scripture and making it a policy would not be quite correct:

Jesus was said to not be willing that any just perish, that he didn't come to condemn but to give an abundant life,

Matthew 15:8 This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

Then you also have to quote the whole of what Jesus said:

John 3:16-18 King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Not saying you are condemned for I am not the judge nor can I see your heart. But rather just simply showing that there is more scripture to it than just :16a
 

Bob the Unbeliever

Well-Known Member
Christian Atheist-- keep all the non-woo (non-supernatural) sayings Traditionally attributed to Jesus, and toss out all the Magic.

Some may point out, that this would be very similar to non-supernatural Buddhism.

In fact, a pretty decent case can be made, that Jesus was simply Buddhism with a Jewish Twist.

I have no issues with the idea. But it seems unnecessarily hampered with Emotional Baggage that comes with the word 'christian'. Why not simply leave that word out, and embrace the basic Do No Harm, Respect Life (and so on) ideas that are left?

You know. Secular Humanism?

On the Third Paw? Why not? It's a darn sight superior to all the Traditional 'Yer Gonna HELL, Sinner!' that we see so very often from Traditional Christians.
 

ZenMonkey

St. James VII
Yeah, just discard God and take away the divine attributes of Jesus and you would be a Christian Atheist, like I am a strong atheist Hindu.
If you want to be an atheist, you have to discard God TOTALLY, use some other term for what exists.


Umm ... How about no?!! I'm of the mind that Life is and all life entails is, from the never was beginning to the never ending end of all that is, so ... God is, life is, all is and that's all there is to it. Who is God to you and I'll counter with a who God is (.)
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I view it like good and evil, light and darkness, hot and cold, etc. It's almost oxymoronic or paradoxical but it really isn't. It just seems to be. I'm officially declaring myself a Christian Atheist, which has yet to be but has also already been clearly defined. Do you believe me, or in Christian Atheism is belief required to be a "Christian Atheist"?

I'd LOVE to discuss this one with whoever might be willing. Should be fun. Here's why? Jesus was said to not be willing that any just perish, that he didn't come to condemn but to give an abundant life, yet so many condemns and demand that we be like them, which I would assume is the reason there are like over 2000 different christian denominations. I haven't registered Christian Atheism as a religion ... yet ... but who knows, I may or someone else may, or some may say NO WAY! But I say yes way because that is in a nut shell "my way".

I see no problem with the term and know several atheists who follow the teachings of christ to some degree or other.

I of course question, what are the teachings of christ that are not basic humanity?
 
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