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Audie

Veteran Member
Sorry to see you go - I feel this site needs more voices of reason. But I entirely get it. This is going to be blunt, brash and probably insult a bunch of people, but oh well. I've always said I shouldn't have a job where I was consistently faced with situations that made me question my faith in humanity - and this site certainly has its moments that bring you to that sort of precipice. Waiting for the internet equivalent of a "Candid camera" crew to hop out and tell you that the conversation you're having isn't real... because if it is real you have no choice but to fear for the world your kids are growing up in - and then you're forced to face the ultimately devastating reality - that those people you are talking to probably feel pretty much the same way about YOU. I've been there plenty of times... and sadly I'm probably inured to it. Makes me a good one for the trenches though. Oh well... back at it. Good luck to you.

I have an uncle who was deeply involved in the
cultural revolution, and, in his head, still is.
Thinks the revolution was sold out.

Best not to get him started! It is for sure a kind
of alternate reality or universe thing.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
You should not, @Rival

Not everything that claims to be deserving of being called "religious" is equally valid. Not by a very long shot.

For that matter, not everything that claims _not_ to be religious is equally deserving of being acknowledged as such either.

The word has become nearly meaningless - or perhaps worse - in and of itself.
Deciding which ideas are allowed and which aren't is dangerously close to a world I'd rather not live in. And it's certainly not up to anyone on this forum to dictate. Who can decide what is an 'unrealistic religious concept' on a forum designed for discussing religious concepts?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Deciding which ideas are allowed and which aren't is dangerously close to a world I'd rather not live in. And it's certainly not up to anyone on this forum to dictate.
Then surely you must agree that no one has to submit to your expectations of what qualifies as religious - or fails to?
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Absolutely not. But this is a forum for discussing any and all religious ideas. Who can say what should or should not be discussed or is 'too inclusive'? That's absurd.
Hardly.

If anything, it is unavoidable.

We all judge what is worth of our consideration and what qualifies for various conceptualizations. That is how the human mind works.

"Any and all" religious ideas is as empty a qualification as they come.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I thought that I would give it a shot, check out how an inclusivity forum works out, but this simply is not the place for me.

I fit in best on atheist forums.

Being here on this forum feels as though I am having the oppressive shackles of religion placed back on when I worked so hard on removing them.

Thank you for having me, nonetheless.

Take care.

Sometimes, this place can be a bit too much, so it's good to take a break once in a while.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Then surely you must agree that no one has to submit to your expectations of what qualifies as religious - or fails to?
then surely you must agree that no one has to submit to your expectations of what qualifies as religious

do you...….
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Hardly.

If anything, it is unavoidable.

We all judge what is worth of our consideration and what qualifies for various conceptualizations. That is how the human mind works.

"Any and all" religious ideas is as empty a qualification as they come.
I happen to think Buddhism is an absurd religious idea. And Satanism. I guess I am within my rights to throw a hissy fit because they are being discussed here?
 
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A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
oh so....you're on a mission to save what's left of humanity?

yeah right
Not at all what I said. Not at all what I feel I am "doing." I'm "in the trenches" with all of you goons - fighting to keep my side of the story told. Not trying to save the world... just trying to preserve a slice of it I think is worthwhile to preserve. Same as you. Or are you trying to save humanity? Hahaha... come on now @Thief... you know you are.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Not at all what I said. Not at all what I feel I am "doing." I'm "in the trenches" with all of you goons - fighting to keep my side of the story told. Not trying to save the world... just trying to preserve a slice of it I think is worthwhile to preserve. Same as you. Or are you trying to save humanity? Hahaha... come on now @Thief... you know you are.
ok....you caught me
only a few will know my words as valid
and the rest will burn for their denial

ooooops
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
I have an uncle who was deeply involved in the
cultural revolution, and, in his head, still is.
Thinks the revolution was sold out.

Best not to get him started! It is for sure a kind
of alternate reality or universe thing.
Not one to really care about a revolution. Just trying to keep a hold on and share what I feel is right. Anyone can challenge me, anyone can disagree. I fully understand and expect it. Which is precisely why I say I am good for the trenches. I simply am. I understand "quid pro quo" and "what's good for the goose" all too well. You'll never hear me complaining. Unless you count argumentation as complaining... and then yeah... I "complain" all the damn time.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I thought that I would give it a shot, check out how an inclusivity forum works out, but this simply is not the place for me.

I fit in best on atheist forums.

Being here on this forum feels as though I am having the oppressive shackles of religion placed back on when I worked so hard on removing them.

Thank you for having me, nonetheless.

Take care.

what happened? I mean for the record this is “religious forums” kinda obvious what the foundation of this forum is about.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Not one to really care about a revolution. Just trying to keep a hold on and share what I feel is right. Anyone can challenge me, anyone can disagree. I fully understand and expect it. Which is precisely why I say I am good for the trenches. I simply am. I understand "quid pro quo" and "what's good for the goose" all too well. You'll never hear me complaining. Unless you count argumentation as complaining... and then yeah... I complain all the damn time.


my comment was in partial response to this-
...... then you're forced to face the ultimately devastating reality - that those people you are talking to probably feel pretty much the same way about YOU.

Not crazy about revolution myself tho I hope against
hope that the one in HK has some sort of success.
I am going back there on Monday, actually.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
what happened? I mean for the record this is “religious forums” kinda obvious what the foundation of this forum is about.
well....an agnostic monotheist
sporting a chimp in a thoughtful profile.....

and the opposition bows out?

of course he did
 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
Not crazy about revolution myself tho I hope against
hope that the one in HK has some sort of success.
I am going back there on Monday, actually.
Yes, when you see a cause as particularly worthy, that's obviously when its time to root for your team - or even join the ranks. And my comment was more about knowing that the sorts of things we're talking about in this particular thread aren't in what I feel is such dire "jeopardy" within my own limited scope of livelihood for me to "take up arms" so to speak. It's not about going to "war" for me so much as it is about getting others to ask questions and expect better answers.
 
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