How was god created?

[Hockeycowboy]

Assuming god is an entity is its own right, instead of a figment of the human imagination I believe it to be, how was it created? The answer, 'god was always there', is not logical, especially as many Biblical literalists state that there is an intelligent designer behind everything that exists.

If He’s not matter, but still exists....what form is He in, then?

It would be an as-yet-unknown form of energy. From what we know of energy, it can neither be created nor destroyed.
Energy - Wikipedia

If so, it’s always existed.

 

[Earthtank]

Assuming god is an entity is its own right, instead of a figment of the human imagination I believe it to be, how was it created? The answer, 'god was always there', is not logical, especially as many Biblical literalists state that there is an intelligent designer behind everything that exists.

Your question is flawed as by the way its asked , it will never provide an answer. If someone or something created a god then who created that which created the god and so forth. Look up infinite regression. I am not say there or there is not a god, simply pointing out the flawed logic of your question, which seems to stem from the bad train of thought used to arrive as such a question.

 

[JJ50]

My thread was challenging those who stated that god created everything, as something couldn't come from nothing, yet failed to say what created god.

None of us know how the universe was created, even if theists think they do. Maybe in the distant future science might come up with the definitive answer to the question, or maybe not.

 

[MonkeyFire]

God was destroyed and created like a great fiery phoenix... but yes I do believe God was always before and ever after.

 

[syo]

how was it created?

WE are creations, God is NOT a creation. That's the whole point.

 

[Nimos]

These questions might not be valid, actually.
For example, there's this hypothesis of the zero-energy universe, where the "positive" energy of matter is canceled out by the "negative" energy of gravity.

But even to be able mention the word energy, even in the zero energy universe, assume you mean the "scientific" meaning of zero energy?

And assuming that there is gravity rather than not doesn't offer an explanation to where gravity were even possible in the first place. So one could assume that gravity is just eternal right?

I do however think the questions are valid, but whether one can expect an answer that is satisfying is less likely I think

There's a huge difference. One has scientific motivation and the other hasn't.

But does the motivation matter in this case? If a scientific answer is merely guesswork and is pretty much impossible to test and therefore verify as I see it. So isn't it a lot like saying that if some one have a scientific motivation when it comes to unicorns, then that is more valid than some that hasn't, that seems wrong, I think

 

[JJ50]

WE are creations, God is NOT a creation. That's the whole point.

I think it is a human creation.

 

[syo]

I think it is a human creation.

No. Gods created humans. If you want to believe the opposite, fine, i'm not gonna change your mind.

 

[JJ50]

No. Gods created humans. If you want to believe the opposite, fine, i'm not gonna change your mind.

No you aren't unless you have verifiable evidence to support that statement.

 

[RedDragon94]

The answer, 'god was always there', is not logical, especially as many Biblical literalists state that there is an intelligent designer behind everything that exists.

Umm, then the thing that created God would automatically be God. The only thing that makes sense is a single literally uncreated being. So almost everything needs an intelligent designer, except for one eternal being.

 

[syo]

No you aren't unless you have verifiable evidence to support that statement.

Did you make your own brain? Did you make your own body? Did you choose to be born? Everything you've got is GIVEN to you. You are NOT the center of the universe that creates gods.

 

[QuestioningMind]

I know it from the scriptures and yes the scriptures are true.
Before everything was created, God already existed. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit always existed. God has no beginning and no end, for he is the first and the last, the origin and the goal.

How do you know that the scriptures are true? How about the Hindu Vedas? What about the Koran? If not, how are you so certain that your scriptures are true, but all those who claim that the Vedas and the Koran are true are wrong?

 

[QuestioningMind]

Did you make your own brain? Did you make your own body? Did you choose to be born? Everything you've got is GIVEN to you. You are NOT the center of the universe that creates gods.

Bodies and brains develop as a natural biological function. A basic grade school science course on biology can explain exactly how the process works. Care to provide any verifiable evidence that some other outside factor is required or are you simply making wild assertions without anything to back it up?

 

[dfnj]

Assuming god is an entity is its own right, instead of a figment of the human imagination I believe it to be, how was it created? The answer, 'god was always there', is not logical, especially as many Biblical literalists state that there is an intelligent designer behind everything that exists.

The word "created" just doesn't apply to God. You are wrong in saying God was always there is not logical. I think the idea God has always existed is the only logical way of thinking about it.

So here's the argument why it's more logical to think God always existed. Nobody has ever experienced the state of non-existence. The idea of non-existence is imaginary. Since there is absolutely no evidence non-existence as ever occurred, we have no way to know if it ever did. But we DO know that something exists. And since something exists now, then therefore, something has ALWAYS existed. The only evidence we have is somethingness has always existed.

 

[Valjean]

Created from cosmic dark matter and energy by a Cosmic Overlord?

 

[paarsurrey]

How was god created?

I visualize It is an invalid and superstitious question because Allah* always existed. Right, please?

Regards
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*[112:1]بِسۡمِ اللّٰہِ الرَّحۡمٰنِ الرَّحِیۡمِ﴿۱﴾
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[112:2]قُلۡ ہُوَ اللّٰہُ اَحَدٌ ۚ﴿۲﴾
Say, ‘He is Allah, the One;
[112:3]اَللّٰہُ الصَّمَدُ ۚ﴿۳﴾
‘Allah, the Independent and Besought of all.
[112:4]لَمۡ یَلِدۡ ۬ۙ وَ لَمۡ یُوۡلَدۡ ۙ﴿۴﴾
‘He begets not, nor is He begotten;
[112:5]وَ لَمۡ یَکُنۡ لَّہٗ کُفُوًا اَحَدٌ ٪﴿۵﴾
‘And there is none like unto Him.’
The Holy Quran - Chapter: 112: Al-Ikhlas

 

[syo]

Bodies and brains develop as a natural biological function.

Did you make the natural biological function?

 

[Valjean]

How was god created?

I visualize It is an invalid and superstitious question because Allah* always existed. Right, please?

Can't say... What objective, tested, peer reviewed evidence do you have for this hypothesis?
NB: quoting ancient writings isn't evidence -- they're not research based, tested or vetted, either.

Did you make the natural biological function?

No, nature did, through known processes.

 

[QuestioningMind]

Did you make the natural biological function?

No one did. It came about NATURALLY.

 

[Bird123]

Assuming god is an entity is its own right, instead of a figment of the human imagination I believe it to be, how was it created? The answer, 'god was always there', is not logical, especially as many Biblical literalists state that there is an intelligent designer behind everything that exists.

Your understanding requires you to span beyond the physical laws of this universe. Quantum physics shows the possibility of many dimensions. A dimension without time would have no beginning nor no end.