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Islam: What Muslims teach children in Dutch schools

Choose the option(s) you agree with:

  • 1: No worries, it will blow over (This is Islamophobia)

  • 2: I do worry, "Muslims who teach killing is okay" won't just blow over

  • 3: Koran contains violent verses

  • 4: Violent verses in Koran are dangerous in the West

  • 5: Responsibility of highest Imam to do something now

  • 6: Act now or Islamophobia becomes reality

  • 7: I do not believe this happened; it's a hoax

  • 8: I believe Allah does want Muslims to teach this

  • 9: I believe Allah does NOT want Muslims to teach this

  • 10: I believe Muslims should be free to teach this


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stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
I'm sure you can find breitbart somewhere saying they have the problem too....

Do not bother to reply to my posts again. If you do, this will be my reply. Wish you well.

The Yoga Vasistha is the Scripture I find my jewels. I am reminded of a beautiful text from the Yoga Vasistha:
O Rama*, he who comes forward to remove the sorrow of people of perverted intelligence is endeavouring to cover the sky with a small umbrella. They who behave like beasts cannot be instructed, for they are being led like animals by the rope of their own mind. Indeed, even stones shed tears, looking at those ignorant people who sink in the mire of their own mind, whose actions spell their own doom. Hence, the wise man does not attempt to teach those who have not overcome their own mind and are therefore miserable in every way. On the other hand, the wise do endeavour to remove the sorrow of those who have conquered their mind and who are therefore ripe to undertake self-enquiry.

The mind is not, O Rama*: do not unnecessarily imagine its existence. If you imagine its existence then it destroys you, like a ghost. As long as you have forgotten your self, so long does this imaginary mind exist. Now that you have realised that the mind waxes large by the continued affirmation of its existence, abandon such thinking.
 

Baroodi

Active Member
Well since you set the bar so low this is from Aljezeera just a week ago:
“On Sunday, an angry mob ransacked the school where the incident allegedly took place and attacked a Hindu temple, badly damaging its interior, members of the Hindu community told Al Jazeera.

"In the temple, they broke the windows, and the things inside, including our idols, were also damaged," said Mukhi Kika Ram, the leader of the local Hindu community.

Ram said several shops and homes were also damaged by rioters.”

And further
Blasphemy is a sensitive subject in Pakistan, where at least 75 people have been killed since 1990 in connection with allegations of the crime, according to an Al Jazeera tally’

Source: Pakistani police detain Hindu school principal over 'blasphemy'


I’m opposed to supplying Islamic State with arms, and strange of you to apologise on their behalf on one hand, yet question who supplies them on the other.


Exactly and we won’t have that for as long as people deny that there are people out there killing apostates and blasphemers.


Alright!!! and What That means? If an angry mob attacked a temple? is that means all Muslims are mob and terrorist? News is coming as well from Kashmir, Pregnant Kashmirian ladies get their bellies opened by swords but I can not say all Hindu are terrorist. Please give me logical pleas.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Alright!!! and What That means? If an angry mob attacked a temple? is that means all Muslims are mob and terrorist? News is coming as well from Kashmir, Pregnant Kashmirian ladies get their bellies opened by swords but I can not say all Hindu are terrorist. Please give me logical pleas.

Straw man. No one is saying ALL Muslims are mob terrorists, just a significant minority that ALL YOU PEACEFUL MUSLIMS NEED TO DEAL WITH IN GOOD FAITH!!!
 

danieldemol

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Alright!!! and What That means? If an angry mob attacked a temple? is that means all Muslims are mob and terrorist? News is coming as well from Kashmir, Pregnant Kashmirian ladies get their bellies opened by swords but I can not say all Hindu are terrorist. Please give me logical pleas.
If you want to talk about logic you have to at least understand what a straw man is. I never said all Muslims are terrorist, that is you creating a straw man (ie an imagined false argument) then knocking this imaginary argument down to declare a false victory instead of taking the time to humbly read and consider what is being said.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
that means all Muslims are mob and terrorist?
No, BUT see remarks below

Straw man. No one is saying ALL Muslims are mob terrorists, just a significant minority

Exactly. And step 1 is to recognize it and step 2 is to speak out loud you disagree.

In Islam they put women under a veil, but
violent crimes should not be veiled.

That this is significant is proven by the facts in Holland (from story in OP). When the Muslim Teachers were asked why they teach these inhumane things (kill apostates etc) the Muslim Teacher said, that "they (terrorists) told us to teach in this way, if not they will harm our wife, children and family members". So I do understand Muslims are too afraid to speak out loud. But at least don't lie the violent crimes away.

News is coming as well from Kashmir, Pregnant Kashmirian ladies get their bellies opened by swords but I can not say all Hindu are terrorist.
Of course other minorities also act violent. But this thread is about Muslims. You can start a thread about Hindus cutting bellies open. I did not know that. I believe you. Please show a link.

And straight away I will condemn this. I love Hinduism but condemn violence.
 
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