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I Live Here Too

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Well, apparently I've reached that point. I guess I'm more religious than I think.

But I live here too, England. I am so burnt out trying to do this; trying to have interactions with people that aren't lashon hara in some way because that's all they want to discuss, or finding a friend with whom I can talk about faith in-depth; I commit my fair share of sins and I don't want to add to those merely by living where I do, but it's becoming hard. Sure, I live in a small village in a rural shire on what is now a mostly nonreligious island, but out of the millions who live here I'd have thought there would be one. One person with whom I could connect. Conversely, even if that person didn't exist, I'd be happy to be more solitary as long as I weren't in a community that made it hard to be as stringent as I wish in my faith.

But alas.

I live here too.

This is my home. This is what I know, this is my culture, my folk, my tongue, my history, my upbringing, and it seems as though I am being asked to abandon it all just since I want to worship HaShem.

I feel abandoned by my own country and my own people. Maybe that's overdramatic, but there are tens of thousands of people here and it's not as though I'm a hermit; I go out! I meet people. I socialise. I go to cafes. It seems as though people in this country shrugged off Christianity and with it, abandoned all religion ever, along with the social morality that usually goes along with it.

But, I live here too.

So what am I supposed to do? I don't like being effectively admonished by my family for not having a boyfriend, or feeling like a failure since I haven't, and being called a religious nutcase by my father. Yeah that doesn't go down well with me for some reason. I'd like to have a relationship - hell's bells I'm 24 already, what gives?

I live here. That's what.

Could have been a Jewish boy. I mean I could also have been a Jewish yeshivah boy so gay he puts blue ribbons in his peyos, but even then I'd still have more chance of being married!

I am not sure why HaShem put me here, but as He did so He can take me out. Not me. I'm not doing that. I didn't choose to live here. If HaShem wants me to be a Noachide and to worship Him and to stay on the straight path, He's going a funny, no, absurd, way about it.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Well, apparently I've reached that point. I guess I'm more religious than I think.

But I live here too, England. I am so burnt out trying to do this; trying to have interactions with people that aren't lashon hara in some way because that's all they want to discuss, or finding a friend with whom I can talk about faith in-depth; I commit my fair share of sins and I don't want to add to those merely by living where I do, but it's becoming hard. Sure, I live in a small village in a rural shire on what is now a mostly nonreligious island, but out of the millions who live here I'd have thought there would be one. One person with whom I could connect. Conversely, even if that person didn't exist, I'd be happy to be more solitary as long as I weren't in a community that made it hard to be as stringent as I wish in my faith.

But alas.

I live here too.

This is my home. This is what I know, this is my culture, my folk, my tongue, my history, my upbringing, and it seems as though I am being asked to abandon it all just since I want to worship HaShem.

I feel abandoned by my own country and my own people. Maybe that's overdramatic, but there are tens of thousands of people here and it's not as though I'm a hermit; I go out! I meet people. I socialise. I go to cafes. It seems as though people in this country shrugged off Christianity and with it, abandoned all religion ever, along with the social morality that usually goes along with it.

But, I live here too.

So what am I supposed to do? I don't like being effectively admonished by my family for not having a boyfriend, or feeling like a failure since I haven't, and being called a religious nutcase by my father. Yeah that doesn't go down well with me for some reason. I'd like to have a relationship - hell's bells I'm 24 already, what gives?

I live here. That's what.

Could have been a Jewish boy. I mean I could also have been a Jewish yeshivah boy so gay he puts blue ribbons in his peyos, but even then I'd still have more chance of being married!

I am not sure why HaShem put me here, but as He did so He can take me out. Not me. I'm not doing that. I didn't choose to live here. If HaShem wants me to be a Noachide and to worship Him and to stay on the straight path, He's going a funny, no, absurd, way about it.

Just a thought, you are a lucky one, you chose your faith, yourself, mist people have their faith imposed on them by their parents.
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
I'm not going without a tantrum and an explanation.

Go on a holiday trip, ... if the experience ranges from interesting to exciting, go again, for a longer trip. If it still ranges from interesting to exciting, go again for six months to a year. You can always go back, and be miserable.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Go on a holiday trip, ... if the experience ranges from interesting to exciting, go again, for a longer trip. If it still ranges from interesting to exciting, go again for six months to a year. You can always go back, and be miserable.
I've been on plenty of holidays. I just find it sad that I have to leave my homeland, that I know and love, for my religion. It's giving up a huge part of me that I'm not ready to give up. My mom recently moved to Normandie and it's lovely there, I could go there forever with her and her partner in a place which is out of the way and I did feel much better there but why should I have to? It's just sad.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
I know I shouldn't really complain, since no matter where I go Noahidism is a tiny, tiny minority, but it's just an emotional attachment I have to my country, my history my heritage, that it seems I have to abandon. Not just for religious reasons, but that since I went to visit mom in Normandie I felt better. She doesn't mind me praying, she's also religious, she doesn't judge me as much, I'm more at liberty to be me so to speak. But I'd like to find a partner who shares my faith so I feel less alone and like I actually have someone. The UK is atheist-land and it's very very hard to find people to connect with who aren't Christians trying to convert you, or some new-age nonsense that's big now. I thought out of the millions there'd be at least one.

Even so, being out of this toxic environment I currently live in that would be better.

It just seems as though G-d is doing His best to make me leave the U.K. and I'm, I hope understandably, not happy about that.
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
It just seems as though G-d is doing His best to make me leave the U.K. and I'm, I hope understandably, not happy about that.

Uncle Terry actually does understand. He's just inviting you to consider playing with alternatives and consider opening a door that enables you to meet a nice, Noachide boy.
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Uncle Terry actually does understand. He's just inviting you to consider playing with alternatives and consider opening a door that enables you to meet a nice, Noachide boy.
Just seems odd that out of the 66.4 million people in the country there apparently isn't one and HaShem wants me to move!!
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
Well, I suppose you could invite a Noachide to come to where you are as a Noachide "missionary". Do Noachide do missionary work off-line in other countries?
 

Rival

Si m'ait Dieus
Staff member
Premium Member
Well, I suppose you could invite a Noachide to come to where you are as a Noachide "missionary". Do Noachide do missionary work off-line in other countries?
There's no such thing as a Noachide missionary. We don't proselytise.
 
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