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Why I love Creationists

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Well..debates like this make me very proud of my nation...I understand how culturally advanced we are.:p:p:p

I mean...creationists would be invited in a comical TV show...here. :p:p:cool:

 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
PS To Creationists
Forgive my cruel merciless joke:p
I love you guys:sparklingheart::sparklingheart::sparklingheart:
 
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Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Does this really surprise you, considering the influence that evangelicals have over the GOP, and how religious their constituents typically are?
Well here education is 100% controlled by the state either directly or indirectly...so I think a politician who believes in Creationism would not reveal it...he would lose credibility.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
The majority of U.S. conservatives are creationists.

Prove that.

Seriously.

Prove that.

.....oh, and do define 'creationist' for the class. Do you mean '24 hour day 7 day young earth creationist who believes that God created Adam from the dust of the ground and created Eve from one of his ribs and the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it?"

Or does 'creationist" mean "God set off the Big Bang" and that the earth is billions of years old, that mankind has been around a very long time, and has no problems at all with anything that astrophysicists and other scientists discover?"

Because 'creationist' applies to both groups...as well as all the shades in between. Is it your claim, then, merely that the majority of U. S. conservatives are 'theists?"

As to that, the majority of US citizens claim to be theists. Which means, mostly, that most of 'em believe that God exists and created the universe. Even deists think that.

Which means that most liberals are creationists, too.

But I think we are now back to you defining the term 'creationist' for the class.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Prove that.

Seriously.

Prove that.

Republicans' views on evolution


.....oh, and do define 'creationist' for the class. Do you mean '24 hour day 7 day young earth creationist who believes that God created Adam from the dust of the ground and created Eve from one of his ribs and the earth is flat and the sun revolves around it?"

Or does 'creationist" mean "God set off the Big Bang" and that the earth is billions of years old, that mankind has been around a very long time, and has no problems at all with anything that astrophysicists and other scientists discover?"

Because 'creationist' applies to both groups...as well as all the shades in between. Is it your claim, then, merely that the majority of U. S. conservatives are 'theists?"

As to that, the majority of US citizens claim to be theists. Which means, mostly, that most of 'em believe that God exists and created the universe. Even deists think that.

Which means that most liberals are creationists, too.

But I think we are now back to you defining the term 'creationist' for the class.

By "creationists" I mean those who outright reject evolution, such as those who take the genesis account literally. I've stressed before on multiple occasions that the theory of evolution and the concept of god aren't mutually exclusive.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
Well here education is 100% controlled by the state either directly or indirectly...
Evolution is part of the curriculum for public schools here, but you'll sometimes have teachers or members of local government who are religious conservatives that try to undermine it.
so I think a politician who believes in Creationism would not reveal it...he would lose credibility.
Here, it's the opposite. It would be considered controversial for a conservative politician to openly accept evolution here in the U.S. I'm sure some do, but try to keep quiet about it to avoid angering and alienating their constituents.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Republicans' views on evolution




By "creationists" I mean those who outright reject evolution, such as those who take the genesis account literally. I've stressed before on multiple occasions that the theory of evolution and the concept of god aren't mutually exclusive.


I love that article....while I trust Pew generally, every once in awhile...you do realize that this entire article is an apologetic for obviously flawed survey work? Instead of seeing the problem (which is clearly delineated in the first paragraph) they go on to speculate on reason after reason (some contradictory) as to why the problem exists...every reason under the sun except perhaps "we got a bad sample and/or asked the wrong questions."

It is simply not possible that, in a general population where the percentage of evolutionists vs. literal Genesis creationists hasn't changed much, and the numbers of Republicans to Democrats/Independents can't account for the perceived change, that the number of Republican evolutionists has gone up as much as Pew claims it has. There's something wonky there, all right....but when the numbers are THAT nutty, it's the study that's the problem. They counted the wrong people, the sample is screwy, or the questions were weird.

Every time. The numbers just don't add up.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I love that article....while I trust Pew generally, every once in awhile...you do realize that this entire article is an apologetic for obviously flawed survey work? Instead of seeing the problem (which is clearly delineated in the first paragraph) they go on to speculate on reason after reason (some contradictory) as to why the problem exists...every reason under the sun except perhaps "we got a bad sample and/or asked the wrong questions."

It is simply not possible that, in a general population where the percentage of evolutionists vs. literal Genesis creationists hasn't changed much, and the numbers of Republicans to Democrats/Independents can't account for the perceived change, that the number of Republican evolutionists has gone up as much as Pew claims it has. There's something wonky there, all right....but when the numbers are THAT nutty, it's the study that's the problem. They counted the wrong people, the sample is screwy, or the questions were weird.

Every time. The numbers just don't add up.
Oh Deeje, it is such a shame that you do not see that that is a positive article about Republicans.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
My history book...primary school


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History book high school

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