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A question for all jehovah's witnesses on here about people who claim to leave their body with jesus

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Frank Goad

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If your a jehovah's witness on here.I have a question.If you have ever meet a person somewhere that claims they can meet jesus by going out of body?Why don't you ask them to get you out of body and take you to jesus to prove it?;)Also have you ever asked them if their spirit guides might be demons?Also have you showed them Ecclesiastes 9:5?:) I have meet people like this and can't talk them out of their beliefs.:(
 
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Deeje

Deeje

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We have already addressed these questions, Frank.

People who engage in this kind of conduct are usually not open to questions of that nature. They are convinced because they want to be.

Since this activity is not spoken about in scripture and all forms of spiritism are forbidden.....ask yourself why you seem so fascinated by these topics? Do you want to have grounds to engage in them yourself?

Curiosity can kill you. Listen to God....he does not lie. Obeying him is a protection.
 
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Frank Goad

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Deeje said:
We have already addressed these questions, Frank.

People who engage in this kind of conduct are usually not open to questions of that nature. They are convinced because they want to be.

Since this activity is not spoken about in scripture and all forms of spiritism are forbidden.....ask yourself why you seem so fascinated by these topics? Do you want to have grounds to engage in them yourself?

Curiosity can kill you. Listen to God....he does not lie. Obeying him is a protection.
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If the person you were talking to could literally get you out of body and it would be the real deal.How would you know?:( Because any time I think of this I think of Ecclesiastes 9:5.
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
Also @Frank Goad why do you keep asking Jehovah's Witnesses that question for which their usually response will be no?
Is it because you want to hear it said repeatedly, so that it will convince you?
It would certainly be a good thing, in my view, if you are convinced to forget about the 'out of body' fascination, but I think the best way to do that is to take a step further than accepting the Bible, and actually study it, and determine what it really teaches... imo.

Sorry @Frank Goad, I didn't read the OP. I just looked at the title, so don't consider this post, asa response to the OP. However, it might be useful for another time. :)
 
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Frank Goad

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nPeace said:
Also @Frank Goad why do you keep asking Jehovah's Witnesses that question for which their usually response will be no?
Is it because you want to hear it said repeatedly, so that it will convince you?
It would certainly be a good thing, in my view, if you are convinced to forget about the 'out of body' fascination, but I think the best way to do that is to take a step further than accepting the Bible, and actually study it, and determine what it really teaches... imo.

Sorry @Frank Goad, I didn't read the OP. I just looked at the title, so don't consider this post, asa response to the OP. However, it might be useful for another time. :)
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How do I get over it?Prayer probably.:)
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
Frank Goad said:
If your a jehovah's witness on here.I have a question.If you have ever meet a person somewhere that claims they can meet jesus by going out of body?Why don't you ask them to get you out of body and take you to jesus to prove it?;)Also have you ever asked them if their spirit guides might be demons?Also have you showed them Ecclesiastes 9:5?:) I have meet people like this and can't talk them out of their beliefs.:(
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I have never had such a conversation.
However, because we focus on the kingdom message, we easily sway the discussion in that direction, rather than spend precious time on things the person will learn, when they say yes, to a free home Bible study.

Once they say yes to a Bible study, over time the forget about those things, as they come to realize what the Bible teaches about the dead, and how wicked spirits mislead.

It's good you want to help people though.
Once you learn the truth, and learn how to be a skillful minister of the good news, that would be easy. :)
 
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LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
Frank Goad said:
If your a jehovah's witness on here.I have a question.If you have ever meet a person somewhere that claims they can meet jesus by going out of body?Why don't you ask them to get you out of body and take you to jesus to prove it?;)Also have you ever asked them if their spirit guides might be demons?Also have you showed them Ecclesiastes 9:5?:) I have meet people like this and can't talk them out of their beliefs.:(
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JW's are anti-christ.
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
LightofTruth said:
JW's are anti-christ.
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Does anti-Christ not mean against Christ?
(1 John 4:2, 3)
2 This is how you know that the inspired statement is from God: Every inspired statement that acknowledges Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God. 3 But every inspired statement that does not acknowledge Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist’s inspired statement that you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world.

(2 John 7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Is it not the ones claiming that almighty God came in the flesh, who are opposed to Christ?
 
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LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
nPeace said:
Does anti-Christ not mean against Christ?
(1 John 4:2, 3)
2 This is how you know that the inspired statement is from God: Every inspired statement that acknowledges Jesus Christ as having come in the flesh originates with God. 3 But every inspired statement that does not acknowledge Jesus does not originate with God. Furthermore, this is the antichrist’s inspired statement that you have heard was coming, and now it is already in the world.

(2 John 7) For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those not acknowledging Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist.

Is it not the ones claiming that almighty God came in the flesh, who are opposed to Christ?
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John was not speaking to those who denied that Jesus existed, but to those who would deny that he had come in the flesh.

Do you know what it means to be in the flesh of mortal man?

The Jw's deny that Jesus has come in the flesh of mortal man, which is called "sinful flesh", therefore they are anti-christ, and rob Jesus of his glory in overcoming the world.!!!!!
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
LightofTruth said:
oh brother.
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I thought so.
No answer. Why?
Is it hard to look in the mirror.
You have only three options.
a) The father
b) The son
c) Both

Your refusal to answer is self defeating.
Picking one, is self defeating. Why? Become of what you believe.
Who is the anti-Christ. Take a look in the mirror. You don't see JWs.
They answer without hesitation - b.
 
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LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
nPeace said:
I thought so.
No answer. Why?
Is it hard to look in the mirror.
You have only three options.
a) The father
b) The son
c) Both

Your refusal to answer is self defeating.
Picking one, is self defeating. Why? Become of what you believe.
Who is the anti-Christ. Take a look in the mirror. You don't see JWs.
They answer without hesitation - b.
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Jesus is the son of the living God. And Jw's are still anti-christ
 
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LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
nPeace said:
So b.
Let's see if your second claim is true.
Did the father come in the flesh, or did the son?
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The son came in the flesh when he came into existence by being conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of a woman. But what the son did was manifest the Father, his Father and his God, by being given full measure of the Spirit of his Father. The simplicity of Christ. There you have it!
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
LightofTruth said:
The son came in the flesh when he came into existence by being conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of a woman. But what the son did was manifest the Father, his Father and his God, by being given full measure of the Spirit of his Father. The simplicity of Christ. There you have it!
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So the father did not come in the flesh.
Good. We agree on that, so how are JWs anti-Christ?
 
nPeace

nPeace

Veteran Member
My apologies @Frank Goad, and mods.
I did not remembered to take note of the forum.
Sorry Trinity believers. This forum is not the place to debate this.
See you anther time... perhaps.
 
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