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New York state finally

Riders

Well-Known Member
I read an article that says state of New York is about to get ahold of 8, years worth of tax and finance records that could be proof of finance crimes by Trump.


Also my sister says they have already started impeachment proceedings is this correct,?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
News to me. I haven't heard anything of the sort and I live in New York.

Anyways, Chairman
Cuomo is much too busy battling the Seneca Nation over casino revenue leaving a trek of dilapidated roadways that go through the nation's territory as a testament to the stellar relationship they have with one another.
 

BSM1

What? Me worry?
I read an article that says state of New York is about to get ahold of 8, years worth of tax and finance records that could be proof of finance crimes by Trump.


Also my sister says they have already started impeachment proceedings is this correct,?

No
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
News to me. I haven't heard anything of the sort and I live in New York.

Anyways, Chairman
Cuomo is much too busy battling the Seneca Nation over casino revenue leaving a trek of dilapidated roadways that go through the nation's territory as a testament to the stellar relationship they have with one another.

Don't forget the Mario M. Cuomo bridge.

But I have heard something about the Trump Tax thing, but they are far FAR away from getting them, it is in court
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Don't forget the Mario M. Cuomo bridge.

But I have heard something about the Trump Tax thing, but they are far FAR away from getting them, it is in court

And further still from finding criminality.

I guess it is just a Chinese culture thing, that
it is good to presume innocence until guilt is
demonstrated?

It may have once been an american thing, but
it isnt any more?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
And further still from finding criminality.

I guess it is just a Chinese culture thing, that
it is good to presume innocence until guilt is
demonstrated?

It may have once been an american thing, but
it isnt any more?
Proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is the threshold for sending someone to prison, as well it should be.

The threshold for a civil trial is "the preponderance of the evidence." Again: a good standard for that purpose.

The threshold for merely thinking someone is a scumbag is a personal matter. Still, it makes sense for the bar to suspect a person or think less of them to be a lower bar than the one you would need to clear to take a big chunk of money away from a person in a civil suit.

BTW: what makes you say that Trump's guilt hasn't been demonstrated?
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
And further still from finding criminality.

I guess it is just a Chinese culture thing, that
it is good to presume innocence until guilt is
demonstrated?

It may have once been an american thing, but
it isnt any more?

Actually based solely on legal system, China is Guilty until proven innocent and the USA is innocent until proven guilty..... however, at least in the US, that does not seem to be the practice of late.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt is the threshold for sending someone to prison, as well it should be.

The threshold for a civil trial is "the preponderance of the evidence." Again: a good standard for that purpose.

The threshold for merely thinking someone is a scumbag is a personal matter. Still, it makes sense for the bar to suspect a person or think less of them to be a lower bar than the one you would need to clear to take a big chunk of money away from a person in a civil suit.

BTW: what makes you say that Trump's guilt hasn't been demonstrated?


I know how the freakin' legal system works.

If you have no concern about people going about
announcing guilt, then you do not.

Many a life has been ruined by such behaviour,
but not yours, so far.

Trump's guilt in what, has been demonstrated?

Of course, a person with a life and business
as complex as his will have any number of infractions
associated.

It could be that the true north strong and free
is more sensible than the USA. Low bar,
I am ready to believe it is the case.

In the USA, anyone that a govt agency decides to
prosecute is going to be found guilty.
8 Ways We Regularly Commit Felonies Without Realizing It
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Actually based solely on legal system, China is Guilty until proven innocent and the USA is innocent until proven guilty..... however, at least in the US, that does not seem to be the practice of late.

Unfortunately, I know that all too well.
 
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