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The biogeographic evidence for evolution

dad

Undefeated
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Why do species on islands resemble species on the nearest mainland, even if there is a vast difference in environmental conditions between the island and the mainland?
Because they evolved and adapted.
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Creationists cannot explain away this evidence. They just pretend it doesn't exist.
You kidding!? Evolving is a God given created trait. Nothing to do with the TOE, and man descending from animals.
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
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Boy! this is one hell of a ****** up thread.

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Thirty-four posts and people are still debating grammar rather than "The biogeographic evidence for evolution." but it is Sunday, god's day, so maybe that's the problem. :shrug:




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It does show the effectiveness of creationist tactics to derail any discussion that contradicts their beliefs.
 

Dan From Smithville

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Let's first see those papers before asking anyone to commit to anything.
I would be interested in seeing them too. Since the existence of them was mentioned to imply that they were the truth and an explanation for the evidence that supersedes biogeographic explanations it would be interesting to know of them.

They were offered rather glibly and in typical creationist fashion with a follow up that did not meet the request to present some, so I do not expect much.
 
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Dan From Smithville

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The following paper is on the biogeography of Diptera, but provides an overview of biogeographical terminology and techniques that may be useful to those interested in more than meaningless sound bytes and spouting nonsense.

Cranston, Peter. 2005. Biogeographic patterns in the evolution of Diptera. In: Pp. 274-311. The evolutionary biology of flies. Yeates, David K. & Brian M. Wiegmann, eds. Columbia University Press.

A pdf of the paper can be found here http://entomology.ucdavis.edu/files/152200.pdf
 

gnostic

The Lost One
Who said God created individual species? :shrug:
Did God make Caucasians, and then make dark skinned people, and then...? Have you read the Bible Hubert?
Ummm...those aren't examples of 'different species'.
Ummm. What examples are you talking about.
I'm responding to the OP.
By standard rules of English, your post #2 seems to suggest that Caucasians and dark-skinned people are different species.

Polymath257 was responding to what I have highlighted in red.

By the context of what you have written, your two lines of questions, you are the one who seem to have made assumption that “Caucasians” and “dark-skinned people” as if they were of different species.

They are not of different species.
 
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tas8831

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Rhetoric claiming we have no answer for this, yet I've read many position papers explaining this.
Of course you have. Name or link to 3 of them. And then EXPLAIN why you think these papers have merit.
And after, you will repent and convert? (Not that I'm proselytizing).
No - after which I will I will see whether or not you actually have read what you claim to have; whether or not these papers have merit; whether or not you understand them well enough to discuss them.

After your own-goal re: Darwin=Hitler, I do so look forward to your attempted defense of your claims.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
No - after which I will I will see whether or not you actually have read what you claim to have; whether or not these papers have merit; whether or not you understand them well enough to discuss them.

After your own-goal re: Darwin=Hitler, I do so look forward to your attempted defense of your claims.

Please post here where I wrote "Darwin is Hitler", I wrote rather that Hitler felt led by Darwin and Social Darwinism to kill/murder.
 

tas8831

Well-Known Member
Please post here where I wrote "Darwin is Hitler", I wrote rather that Hitler felt led by Darwin and Social Darwinism to kill/murder.
"Hitler and Stalin did what they did as Darwinists."

Hitler and Darwin: http://home.uchicago.edu/~rjr6/articles/Was Hitler a Darwinian.pdf and
From Darwin to Hitler Quotes by Richard Weikart


So, as a language expert, surely you understand that I never indicated that you specifically wrote "Darwin=Hitler", and surely you can understand the implication of Darwin=Hitler?

Not that it matters - this sad assertion:

"...Hitler felt led by Darwin and Social Darwinism to kill/murder"

is utter BS dreamed up by right-wing radical Weikart.

But way to go in your attempt to detract from your utter failure to prop up even THAT dopey claim!

Recall, YOU, for reasons that do not shine favorably upon your 'scholarship', tried to support your thesis with a paper that concluded:

"In order to sustain the thesis that Hitler was a Darwinian one would have to ignore all the explicit statements of Hitler rejecting any theory like Darwin’s and draw fanciful implications from vague words, errant phrases, and ambiguous sentences,neglecting altogether more straight -forward, contextual interpretations of such utterances. Only the ideologically blinded would still try to sustain the thesis in the face of the contrary, manifest evidence."

But no, you keep making your false claims in some lame attempt to prop up your religio-political-social views...
 

dad

Undefeated
No need to make up the errors creationsits make. They are easily documentable. I refer you to the sad tale of the "Eve gene" for one example of a recent whopper of a doozy.
Trying to trace back modern genetics to Eve won't work. You blame creos for making the same mistake science does in trying to do so?
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
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Please post here where I wrote "Darwin is Hitler", I wrote rather that Hitler felt led by Darwin and Social Darwinism to kill/murder.

Hitler got the idea to prosecute and kill Jews from M. Luther. The father of the reformation. Hardly a Darwinist. Social or not.

Just one of the many instances of the documented criminal history of Christianity in Europe.

Ciao

- viole
 
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