They call themselves Muslim. Who are we to say otherwise? More than half of Muslims believe the Sharia is the revealed will of God. Of those, about a third believe that adulterers should be stoned and that people who leave Islam should be beheaded.
Who are the real Muslims? These radicals aren't some tiny faction. They are a significant minority in the Muslim world.
If a killer tells you "I love you", while you just saw him kill someone
What do you believe, your eyes or your ears?
So I agree with you. They decide to define Islam in their way. Very good, their freedom as in "Freedom of Religion"
My common sense tells me:
1) "Never, ever let any Muslim enter my country, until this radicalism (stoning women, killing homos, atheist, infidels...) is eliminated from Islam"
I don’t agree with this as it would keep out liberal and progressive Muslims who are natural allies in the fight against extremists.
Instead I propose a simple survey to be asked of all immigrants consisting of three questions.
1. Do you believe in temporal punishments for apostasy?
2. Do you believe in temporal punishments for blasphemy?
3. Do you believe in violence against people who don’t follow your religion/ideology?
An answer of yes to any of these 3 questions should be sufficient to deny immigration and that way radicals of all groups could be rooted out without discrimination against any 1 particular group.
1)
You quoted
part of my short conversation with
@Wandering Monk , that's why your reply-quote of my full reply takes what I meant out of context
You should at least have included my full reply, or even better added
@Wandering Monk his reply to give exact and clear understanding why I said what I said.
Hence I did that
2) I fully agree. You just perfectly worded (I have asked similar direct questions but usual got evasive answers from Muslims, hence my new approach) what
@Wandering Monk and
@stvdv quotes, when put together, mean IMO. I left it for the reader to phrase it, like you did.
Football analogy:
a) stvdv created the game starting the OP
b) Monk created the gameplay giving the facts (much more than little want to kill for certain offences)
c) stvdv took the ball (IF they believe this way, then no goal, no entry in our country; making very clear how to play fair). stvdv saw someone standing free and passed the ball
d) You took your best shot, wording the ELSE conditions of my IF conditions about the facts, started by monk
You still disagree?