Contradictions in the Bible

[Subduction Zone]

Sorry, but Psalms 7:6 is anything but "external to scripture," and it says that God purified every word, not once or twice, but seven times, I would say he attaches significance to every word. I'll follow His lead.

God does not say that. Men say that God said that. Do you understand the difference? I could write a holy book too and say its word was purified twenty times. It would still be a book of myths written by a man.

And the Bible's endless failures tell us that it has not been purified even once.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Interpretation of what?

Good-Ole-Rebel

You have not been following the conversation? The "normal" interpretation of the Bible.

 

[nPeace]

I suspect the kind of "evidence" you seem to mean needs to sometimes be approached with some care. Try reading Olver Sacks The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat sometime.

The title sounds funny, but I just have to listen to evolution stories, to make the connection.
We should approach all evidence with some care, don't you think?
Have you read about the Central Park Five?
So sad, isn't it? Did you hear the judge's alleged response after the supposed perpetrator confessed?
Matias Reyes: The Truth About the Real Attacker in the Central Park Five Case
To this day, the supervising prosecutor of the Central Park Five case, Linda Fairstein, maintains that the interrogation and trial methods used under her watch in the Central Park Jogger case were fair and lawful. And despite all evidence pointing to the contrary, she stands by her conviction that Antron, Kevin, Yusef, Raymond, and Korey participated in the 1989 attack: "I think Reyes ran with that pack of kids," Linda told The New Yorker in 2002.

It's so sad, that there are people so strong-headed, that they would accuse someone of being guilty with little or no evidence, or just based on their perception... no matter how wrong they may be, or regardless of the probability they may be wrong - especially when the evidence is not sufficient.
That's some arrogance.

So, I think we do need to take a close look at the evidence, and consider if we really have enough, but at the same time, be open to evidence that may not be to our liking, or preference.
Sometimes we may not realize that we are biased, so look at that too.
For all we know, Ms / Mrs Fairstein, may have been blinded by prejudice. Who knows.
...not to mention, blinded by pride.

 

[Subduction Zone]

The title sounds funny, but I just have to listen to evolution stories, to make the connection.
We should approach all evidence with some care, don't you think?
Have you read about the Central Park Five?
So sad, isn't it? Did you hear the judge's alleged response after the supposed perpetrator confessed?
Matias Reyes: The Truth About the Real Attacker in the Central Park Five Case
To this day, the supervising prosecutor of the Central Park Five case, Linda Fairstein, maintains that the interrogation and trial methods used under her watch in the Central Park Jogger case were fair and lawful. And despite all evidence pointing to the contrary, she stands by her conviction that Antron, Kevin, Yusef, Raymond, and Korey participated in the 1989 attack: "I think Reyes ran with that pack of kids," Linda told The New Yorker in 2002.

It's so sad, that there are people so strong-headed, that they would accuse someone of being guilty with little or no evidence, or just based on their perception... no matter how wrong they may be, or regardless of the probability they may be wrong - especially when the evidence is not sufficient.
That's some arrogance.

So, I think we do need to take a close look at the evidence, and consider if we really have enough, but at the same time, be open to evidence that may not be to our liking, or preference.
Sometimes we may not realize that we are biased, so look at that too.
For all we know, Ms / Mrs Fairstein, may have been blinded by prejudice. Who knows.
...not to mention, blinded by pride.

Such a bad analogy. The problem with creationists is that they cannot afford to understand the concept of evidence. Almost all of them are scared to death to have an honest debate about the topic.. The concept of scientific evidence is a fairly simple one that was made to deal with those that cannot admit when evidence for an idea has been presented. Even with that all that creationists have is denial.

There is endless evidence for evolution with many different parts of it clearly laid out. Of course with billions of years of history there will be many parts that will never be fully explained. Not fully explained does not mean refuted. Meanwhile all that creationists have are refuted arguments, arguments from ignorance, and outright lies and deceptions. It is why they lose court case after court case and all they can do is to scream prejudice even when they get the judge of their dreams.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I read each of them, dont care to again.
Esp BoM, very poorly written, ridiculous story.

Either is very thin soup, or lousy signal-to- noise
ratio if you prefer.

I grew up with Christianity so I do have some prejudice still for that religion. I take it you grew up with neither Christianity or Mormonism. Just out of curiosity does one seem more bat-poop crazy than the other to one that was never a believer in either?

 

[Dan From Smithville]

It contradicts your view of God. Not as found in the Scriptures because I just gave you Scripture.

Good-Ole-Rebel

No. It contradicts scripture.

Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?”

1 Samuel 15:29 “And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor relent. For He is not a man, that He should relent.”

Psalm 92:15 “To declare that the Lord is upright; He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.”

Malachi 3:6: “For I am the Lord, I do not change.”

Romans 3:4 “Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar.”

Titus 1:2 “In hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began.”

Hebrews 6:18 “It is impossible for God to lie.”

James 1:17-18 “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.”

 

[Desert Snake]

The Bible interpreted itself. Why people break God's Ten Commandments? Read Revelation 12:17 and 14:12. Are you one of them?

Luther didn't include the book of revelation in his canon

 

[InChrist]

K


Frying pan into the fire

Well, the Bible does state that God is a consuming fire (Hebrews 12:29)
and the time is coming when all things will be dissolved by the intensity of God's energy
except those saved in Christ for the new heaven and earth.

Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 2 Peter 3:11-12

 

[Desert Snake]

Well, the Bible does state that God is a consuming fire (Hebrews 12:29)
and the time is coming when all things will be dissolved by the intensity of God's energy
except those saved in Christ for the new heaven and earth.

Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? 2 Peter 3:11-12

Luther didn't include the book of Hebrews, in his canon

 

[Dan From Smithville]

Not sure about the idol part, but for most Christians the Bible is the sole source of everything they can say about god, Jesus and their objectives, so to give these notions any authority they have to have faith that what they read is true. They need to believe the Bible is correct in what it says, and lacking any supporting evidence they necessarily fall back on faith.

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There is the text of the Bible and the message of the Bible. You do not have to consider the text literal in order to receive the message. However, many fundamentalists seem to think that the only way you can view the Bible is as if it were an infallible and literal account of actual events in every word in order to consider oneself a Christian. It is a belief, but an unnecessary one and places a ridiculous burden on believers. It raises the Bible up to the level of a deity to consider it perfect. They are pinning their belief on the Bible and not in God and Christ. It is a very fragile basis on which to be a Christian as noted by the many inconsistencies, errors and contradictions in the text. Despite all of those, it still remains the basis of Christian theology and allows one to be Christian and understand Christianity.

 

[InChrist]

Luther didn't include the book of Hebrews, in his canon

God did though.

 

[Subduction Zone]

God did though.

Really? Where did he do that?

 

[InChrist]

Really? Where did he do that?

What do you mean "where"? Everywhere, as according to the scriptures, God is sovereign working in and through the affairs of humans to accomplish His purposes. I'm sure this includes orchestrating the formation of the canon of scripture.

 

[Subduction Zone]

What do you mean "where"? Everywhere, as according to the scriptures, God is sovereign working in and through the affairs of humans to accomplish His purposes. I'm sure this includes orchestrating the formation of the canon of scripture.

Nope, nowhere that I can find is there any indication that Revelation even exists as a book.

You are really straining to reinterpret the Bible this time.

 

[exchemist]

Sorry, but Psalms 7:6 is anything but "external to scripture," and it says that God purified every word, not once or twice, but seven times, I would say he attaches significance to every word. I'll follow His lead.

But that does not claim every word of the bible is to be taken literally Not remotely. It does not even say what "words" God has purified ("purified" is not the same as "true" by the way: one can have pure lies), nor does it say where they can be found.

It is you who is assuming - without evidence - that the "words" in question are to be found in the bible and it is you who is assuming - without justification - that "purified" means "true", in some way. Neither assumption is based on reason.

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

I had a little Smith and Wesson "ladysmith"
revolver, brushed stainless steel and rosewood,
three inch barrel in calibre .38 special. Whew!
I think I got it all!

Gave it to a girl -friend from college, when I moved to
NYC.

I did not like a shotgun, it bumps my shoulder
too hard.

Good woman. Should have kept it. You can get a smaller gauge shotgun, such as a 20. And you can use a lighter load such as #4. It wouldn't kick as much. Still would do the job for home defense. Plus you don't have to have it on your shoulder. Free hand shoot it.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

You have not been following the conversation? The "normal" interpretation of the Bible.

Where?

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Good-Ole-Rebel]

No. It contradicts scripture.

Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?”

1 Samuel 15:29 “And also the Strength of Israel will not lie nor relent. For He is not a man, that He should relent.”

Psalm 92:15 “To declare that the Lord is upright; He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.”

Malachi 3:6: “For I am the Lord, I do not change.”

Romans 3:4 “Indeed, let God be true but every man a liar.”

Titus 1:2 “In hope of eternal life which God, who cannot lie, promised before time began.”

Hebrews 6:18 “It is impossible for God to lie.”

James 1:17-18 “Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.”

God gives man the Truth. When man rejects that Truth, He sends the lie. It doesn't make God a liar. It means man would rather have the lie than the Truth.

Good-Ole-Rebel

 

[Workman]

This is for some that are..
But not for everyone that is..

Say there is a: straight line..
A straight line that was: long..
A long straight line that be a: Piece..
A Piece of Long straight Line that be: Flexible..

Now picture this in mind:
You are holding this Piece of long straight line that be flexible..
Both hands grasp on each end..

Now you your aim is to ‘Bend’ the object in hand and meet the two ends with each other.

Now that you have measured this was it not shaped in a circle?

A circle cannot create(exist) itself without a [LINE]!..but a line can flex itself to a circle...no matter weather if it is 1 line to trillions of micro lines in it..that made it flex!..size plays a big part with this; but you should know size does not matter..(I) cannot see it;eye(s):can be deceiving for some;obvious (certainty) kind.

The line does not curve..but (A) line(trillions) can make it curve..to any shape it want to.

The earth shaped into a circle..
Last time I looked outside my window I can only see straight. Now imagine this: say you are to go only forward and never stop going forward around the earth..until you meet back at that same starting point,
You did not see no curves ‘Here and there’..because you are on ‘straight flat’ lines that carries you to curve back to the start; this is a formula also an equation..it bends with flexibility..there are more in it than you can imagine..if only you knew what It can really mean..but time here is not ready for that reason. So I rather not!

But I told you so..the formula you are living in today which was stolen from [ME] now be deceived in all of you..
HINT: it’(S) shaped in a triangle, and the triangle you thought be only its shape..but look pass that shape and it well tell you a equation/formula..if you really want to know than you would seek it’(S)...PUZZLE!..look for me in this puzzle than I WILL see you in HEAVEN. For than your WILL believeth in [ME].

Brothers and Sisters! do you now understand this measurement I have shown you..SO BE IT!..it seem(S)..don’t be deceived by it.
But others have already fell in it.

IT is all about the ‘CREATING’.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Where?

Good-Ole-Rebel

Sorry, you will have to do your own homework this time. The posts are all still there. You only need to be able to reason rationally.