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How Romance is vilified nowadays

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Ok...I just don't think having common friends is a good idea
There's nothing wrong with having common friends just as there's nothing wrong with having your own friends. I'd want both, so we could have times where we all hang out together. I mean, it kind of sounds like you don't want to have common interests with your guy. If I don't have common interests with the person, we're not going to be friends, let alone lovers.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Is that football (american) or football (socker). Either way i heartily endorse your action.

I got dragged to a game of american football.

They line up, throw a ball, then knock eachother down.
Then a guy blows a whistle and the CLOCK STOPS!!!

Finally they line up, throw a ball, and knock eqchother down again.

If they would not interrupt the band playing, cheerleaders
etc with that wretched macho-knockdown stuff, it
would have been tolerable.

NEVER get me to another of those!!!!
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
I got dragged to a game of american football.

They line up, throw a ball, then knock eachother down.
Then a guy blows a whistle and the CLOCK STOPS!!!

Finally they line up, throw a ball, and knock eqchother down again.

If they would not interrupt the band playing, cheerleaders
etc with that wretched macho-knockdown stuff, it
would have been tolerable.

NEVER get me to another of those!!!!

To me its like a slow (very) game of rugby but with mouth guards and Kevlar armour.

Rugby i can watch, its played by real, tough men who are not bothered about how many teeth they have at the end if the game.

Rugby joke.
Player is knocked to the ground and the whole opposing team dive on him.
The medic is called who pronounces the player dead, at which point the player jumps up and says, 'its ok. I'll walk it off'
 

Audie

Veteran Member
To me its like a slow (very) game of rugby but with mouth guards and Kevlar armour.

Rugby i can watch, its played by real, tough men who are not bothered about how many teeth they have at the end if the game.

Rugby joke.
Player is knocked to the ground and the whole opposing team dive on him.
The medic is called who pronounces the player dead, at which point the player jumps up and says, 'its ok. I'll walk it off'

Why is why women's soccer is never really going
to be popular.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Why is why women's soccer is never really going
to be popular.

I understand there has just been a world cup that america won. That should boost its popularity rating on your side of the puddle
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Here we have extremes.
Woman has to be 100% perfect and perfumed.
Man has to stink.

I have been to Italy a few times, i honestly can't say i have come across a stinky male. Not been looking of course but they generally struck me as clean and well dressed.

(Damn, seems even the police uniforms were tailored by Armani)
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Love does (or should) include lust in its many facets. I have never said it was end all and be all of a relationship but if is an aspect, as i said.

We are discussing love as in the intense, emotional, sexual, romantic, spend you lives together love, not being good buds with a pal.

Ah, but I submit that 'being good buds with a pal" is ALSO love; 'philios.' Love of a friend. If the only love one calls 'love' is the one that includes lust, one is definitely committing the 'no true Scott' fallacy.

Or, as Jesus said,
John 15:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Well, I got ya beat, FOOTBALL make me projectile vomit.

Huh. I loved football. Never watched it, but I loved it. My hubby and my father would watch it together, with our sons...and the women would be in the same house; kitchen, usually, having our own family confab. The game background noise, along with the male comments, the fall weather, me in the kitchen enjoying my daughters and our time (unless it was a daughter watching the game and the son spending time with me, which happened once in awhile) together. We'd bake something and gossip.

I know, I know...sounds very 'fifties' or patriarchal or something...but it was warm, and familial, and loving...and after the game the MEN would cook and the women would sit back and enjoy the fall weather. Loved it.

Miss it.

......and sometimes he would do his hobby to the sound of a documentary I was watching. Worked.

That's love.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
First, I believe in taking the time and making an effort to live in an aesthetically appealing way -- at least in some areas of life -- including when it comes to friendship, affection, love, sex, intimacy.

Next, to me behaving in a thoughtful, sensitive, and considerate manner towards my partners is the necessary and required beginning of an aesthetic approach to "relationships".

Third, I can "do romance" -- at least to a point -- but it's like speaking a second language to me. I'm not entirely at home with it -- I just make it look like I'm at home with it.

Last, no matter what else I try to do, I try to leave my partners as well off -- or better off -- than I found them. That's the bottom line.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Here in the U.S., if we can't buy it or sell it, it is of no "real" value to us. And we have spread this kind of blinding ignorance to every corner of the world, since we create and sell most of the world's creative entertainment. I am sorry about that.
You might be onto something there.. .
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Ah, but I submit that 'being good buds with a pal" is ALSO love; 'philios.' Love of a friend. If the only love one calls 'love' is the one that includes lust, one is definitely committing the 'no true Scott' fallacy.

Or, as Jesus said,
John 15:13 King James Version (KJV)
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

I would submit that friendship can be love but not as intense as the real thing.

And of course it is obvious what the op is talking about.
 
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