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Why jesus curse and stop the fig then he can't stop the devil sabotage activity

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
I hope everyone will forgive me for my weakness in misunderstanding

We know Satan is doing much more dangerous things than fig tree

I think Jesus does not have the power to stop devil

Because stopping devil is divine and not human

This is beyond the power of Jesus, and this is a sign that He is not God

I want to send a message to everyone that all the holy personalities on the planet could not stop evil

Just come to act as her representative and then disappear from existence

the question
Does this mean that the fig is more evil than devil

I love Jesus and Christians very much
I wanted to be inspired by a beautiful dialogue in a way that is affectionate and compassionate

with respect and love :hugehug:
 
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PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
According to my faith, Satan is a metaphor for a person's own lower self. So can Jesus stop everyone's lower self without destroying all humans or revealing to everyone that He is correct leaving nothing to faith? Not sure.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
According to my faith, Satan is a metaphor for a person's own lower self. So can Jesus stop everyone's lower self without destroying all humans or revealing to everyone that He is correct leaving nothing to faith? Not sure.


Thank you for sharing my beautiful brother

devil is a free-standing creature
He is seducing Adam and Eve in Christianity to eat from forbidden tree

That's what Christianity says

hug dude :hatchedchick:
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I hope everyone will forgive me for my weakness in misunderstanding

We know Satan is doing much more dangerous things than fig tree

I think Jesus does not have the power to stop devil

Because stopping devil is divine and not human

This is beyond the power of Jesus, and this is a sign that He is not God

I want to send a message to everyone that all the holy personalities on the planet could not stop evil

Just come to act as her representative and then disappear from existence

the question
Does this mean that the fig is more evil than devil

I love Jesus and Christians very much
I wanted to be inspired by a beautiful dialogue in a way that is affectionate and compassionate

with respect and love :hugehug:
In this setting you put forth I understand Satan as the inner voice that is seen as attachments like greed, jealousy, wanting, and this is up to our self to stop that is not something Jesus would need to stop, it is on our self, from any religion or nonreligion. it is human beings who create the evil on earth.
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
In this setting you put forth I understand Satan as the inner voice that is seen as attachments like greed, jealousy, wanting, and this is up to our self to stop that is not something Jesus would need to stop, it is on our self, from any religion or nonreligion. it is human beings who create the evil on earth.


thanks for replay brother
this is kind of you

true
The human soul (The inner devil) commands evil, except those on whom that Lord has mercy.

But there is an exogenous external effect
He is the devil
He is depicted with ugly organisms
Why not stop it
Too much evil works more than a fig tree

Why don't jesus stop them
Especially who tried to kill him
Not only the figs that didn't give him fruit

thanks and i hope that i get succeed to show my point

hug :hatchedchick:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Why jesus curse and stop the fig then he can't stop the devil sabotage activity
The fig is a metaphor for Judah, and the Curse (Deuteronomy 28) is placed on them for murdering Yeshua for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11)...

The Quran confirms they rejected the Curse placed by Moses, David, Yeshua and put it behind their backs.

The devil (slanderer) is within people, and is removed at Judgement Day, which are all of those who reject the Curse without reading any of the texts, and assume they know more.

As Yeshua states in the Parable of the Wheat and Tares, the Wheat are his Children, and the Tares are Children of the devil among us.

The Tares are removed by Holy Fire soon, after the wicked among us start the Battle of Armageddon.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 
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LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
I hope everyone will forgive me for my weakness in misunderstanding

We know Satan is doing much more dangerous things than fig tree

I think Jesus does not have the power to stop devil

Because stopping devil is divine and not human

This is beyond the power of Jesus, and this is a sign that He is not God

I want to send a message to everyone that all the holy personalities on the planet could not stop evil

Just come to act as her representative and then disappear from existence

the question
Does this mean that the fig is more evil than devil

I love Jesus and Christians very much
I wanted to be inspired by a beautiful dialogue in a way that is affectionate and compassionate

with respect and love :hugehug:
According to Hebrews 2:14 Jesus destroyed the devil by his death
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
I think Jesus does not have the power to stop devil

He is not meant to.

Not til after Satan has had his time anyways.

Then Satan will get pwned like the lil bitznatch he is. ;)
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
The fig is a metaphor for Judah, and the Curse (Deuteronomy 28) is placed on them for murdering Yeshua for 30 pieces of silver (Zechariah 11)...

The Quran confirms they rejected the Curse placed by Moses, David, Yeshua and put it behind their backs.

The devil (slanderer) is within people, and is removed at Judgement Day, which are all of those who reject the Curse without reading any of the texts, and assume they know more.

As Yeshua states in the Parable of the Wheat and Tares, the Wheat are his Children, and the Tares are Children of the devil among us.

The Tares are removed by Holy Fire soon, after the wicked among us start the Battle of Armageddon.

In my opinion.
:innocent:

According to Hebrews 2:14 Jesus destroyed the devil by his death



I appreciate your generous posts
And explanation and clarification

Christians have experience and high skills of dialogues

Hahahaha congratulate you

The quran says that Jesus and David cursed those who disbelieved of the children of Israel
And not the whole Israelites, It's true

As long as the mercy is intended for divine sacrifice


Contradicts between the power and high status of divine and between sacrifice and death

I mean it's hard to put two contradictory characters as one

God can alleviate the evil of people

This indicates that Jesus was not the Son of God
But he was a human being

Do not forget that there are many evil demonic creatures living now

Thank you for participating
Hugs :hatchedchick:

I hope everyone will forgive me
I apologize for any offense or hurt feelings
i love you all :cherryblossom::tulip:
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
I hope everyone will forgive me for my weakness in misunderstanding

We know Satan is doing much more dangerous things than fig tree

I think Jesus does not have the power to stop devil

Because stopping devil is divine and not human

This is beyond the power of Jesus, and this is a sign that He is not God

I want to send a message to everyone that all the holy personalities on the planet could not stop evil

Just come to act as her representative and then disappear from existence

the question
Does this mean that the fig is more evil than devil

I love Jesus and Christians very much
I wanted to be inspired by a beautiful dialogue in a way that is affectionate and compassionate

with respect and love :hugehug:


Jesus did and does have power over the devil. He revealed that power through the many healings and the casting out of demons that He did while on the earth. He revealed it in His victory over satan at the temptation in the wilderness. (Matt. 4:1-11) He revealed it at the cross. satan no doubt thought he was getting a victory over Christ but all he did was play into the hand of God.

Jesus could not stop the crucifixion because it was the will of the Father. And He always submitted to the Father. (Matt 26:39) Thus, though said mockingly by the crowd, what they said is true. Jesus saved others but Himself He could not save. (Matt. 27:42-43)

Evil is having it's day at present. But even this is under the control of God. And even this, Jesus has authority over. (Matt. 28:18)

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

j1i

Smiling is charity without giving money
Jesus could not stop the crucifixion because it was the will of the Father

Thank you brother for your generous and generous participation
I really appreciate it

This raises question

If the Father's will to crucify his son Jesus, how can they be one at the same time?

They are two separate parts, I mean that Jesus and God are not one

I want to understand this most mysterious part of Christianity

Three characters each one has the ability or work to do and there were recorded dialogues
As if the person speaks himself

Characters must be separated in order for successful dialogue to take place

god bless you
:hatchedchick:
 

Wasp

Active Member
If the Father's will to crucify his son Jesus, how can they be one at the same time?
I have asked this before and I was was told Jesus was a man on earth but is God in heaven. But why does he then sit next to God in heaven if he is God - that no one has told be about yet.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I have asked this before and I was was told Jesus was a man on earth but is God in heaven. But why does he then sit next to God in heaven if he is God - that no one has told be about yet.

That's a great question. In my mind, nobody really knows the actual God itself, for all we know He might be a genderless, all-knowing energy. What I consider us to have is manifestations of God. I think Jesus had a way of trying to focus us on the divine. So I don't really look at Jesus as man or God, but a strong manifestation of this God.
 

Good-Ole-Rebel

Well-Known Member
Thank you brother for your generous and generous participation
I really appreciate it

This raises question

If the Father's will to crucify his son Jesus, how can they be one at the same time?

They are two separate parts, I mean that Jesus and God are not one

I want to understand this most mysterious part of Christianity

Three characters each one has the ability or work to do and there were recorded dialogues
As if the person speaks himself

Characters must be separated in order for successful dialogue to take place

god bless you
:hatchedchick:

The Trinity is a great mystery. (1 Tim. 3:16) I doubt any can fully comprehend it, or describe it. One God, three Persons, same essence. But I don't have to understand it fully to understand that it exists. And I believe this to be the teaching of the Bible.

So, when satan encountered Jesus on the earth, he knew that He was God the Son. At the temptation, I don't think satan really wanted any part of it for that reason. It was not satan that instigated the temptation. It was the Holy Spirit. (Matt. 4:1)

If you notice, in the Bible, that neither satan or demons ever get rude or mouthy with Christ. satan may tempt Him. (Matt. 4:3,6) The demons may ask that Christ cast them out to the pigs and not torment them. (Matt. 8:28-29) But they don't get disrespectful of Him. They knew Who He was.

Good-Ole-Rebel
 

LightofTruth

Well-Known Member
The Trinity is a great mystery. (1 Tim. 3:16) I doubt any can fully comprehend it, or describe it. One God, three Persons, same essence. But I don't have to understand it fully to understand that it exists. And I believe this to be the teaching of the Bible.

So, when satan encountered Jesus on the earth, he knew that He was God the Son. At the temptation, I don't think satan really wanted any part of it for that reason. It was not satan that instigated the temptation. It was the Holy Spirit. (Matt. 4:1)

If you notice, in the Bible, that neither satan or demons ever get rude or mouthy with Christ. satan may tempt Him. (Matt. 4:3,6) The demons may ask that Christ cast them out to the pigs and not torment them. (Matt. 8:28-29) But they don't get disrespectful of Him. They knew Who He was.

Good-Ole-Rebel
There is a difference between a mystery and absurdity. A mystery is a secret, the trinity is an absurdity.
 

Workman

UNIQUE
I hope everyone will forgive me for my weakness in misunderstanding

We know Satan is doing much more dangerous things than fig tree

I think Jesus does not have the power to stop devil

Because stopping devil is divine and not human

This is beyond the power of Jesus, and this is a sign that He is not God

I want to send a message to everyone that all the holy personalities on the planet could not stop evil

Just come to act as her representative and then disappear from existence

the question
Does this mean that the fig is more evil than devil

I love Jesus and Christians very much
I wanted to be inspired by a beautiful dialogue in a way that is affectionate and compassionate

with respect and love :hugehug:
"Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, prayfor us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen."


Without my mother!..
I would not know My Father!..
Nor..Be not known from whom I am.

And whom I am not..IS before (Y) I am.

The answer (Y)..is from..[our] weaknesses!..(Y)[our] as well NOW mine(evil).

Peace be within you brother!.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
But not according to the Bible. (Col. 2:2) (1 Tim. 3:16)

Good-Ole-Rebel


I think there are different purposes.

Fig tree. Jesus was saying he expects fruit. Fruit from Israel. Fruit from believers. I think he was showing that real salvation will have fruit in the case of the fig tree else be subject to judgement. Real fruit comes from being connected to Jesus and doesn't come from self in isolation.

Satan. As far as Satan, God uses even Satan to accomplish a greater good in the long term. All things work for good to those who love God and whether the story is Job or Joseph, Jesus in the wilderness fasting or Jesus delivered to die the fame of God's name and the redemption of His people will increase.
 

whirlingmerc

Well-Known Member
According to the Scriptures, a mystery is a secret. The word means something hidden.

The trinity god is not something hidden or a secret, it's an absurdity.

Jesus has a God.

In the new testament, mystery tends to be things that USED to be secret now openly proclaimed. The gospel for example was secret but no more, now proclaimed.

The notion of Trinity is wonderful. God has both love and majesty from all eternity.

 
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