Desert Snake
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Anyways, note how 'pantheism' doesn't work as a definition.
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But Jesus never claims to be the only one with the Father.No. I believe It is one God in all His children. However only Jesus is one with the Father.
the quote states that all things are christ an christ is in allSee, all being one in Christ is different than all things being Christ. As I said, it's a subtle and not always crystal clear demarcation. God's presence can be in a tree, but the tree is not, itself, God.
colossians three 11 says it is god.See, all being one in Christ is different than all things being Christ. As I said, it's a subtle and not always crystal clear demarcation. God's presence can be in a tree, but the tree is not, itself, God.
you created god as separated by your statement. the bible doesn't state god is separate. you have limited god to "your" self and other self.Yeah, good point.
Seems specific, though, ie it isn't 'everything' like in usual description of pantheism.
Now, how I interpret these verses, by, and in,
Is because God isn't completely like us. His god nature is different, in other words. That's why He is a separate being, and not pantheism.
The construct is the sameness, that isn't God, in other words.
• that being said, these verses match my theistic etc belief, as opposed to 'telling me that'..
Thats how I can explain that, i already know what it means.
By the way, this is what, "theism for atheists' means, theism without faith. I presented that a while back, however its a bit advanced for these types of discussions and forum interaction..
Good finds though.
god cannot be transcendent. that would be god separated from itself in some aspect, God is ONE.More like Jesus was a panentheist. Pantheism identifies God and world. Jesus, on the other hand - as in panENtheism - saw God both in the world and outside the world. He saw God as being both "here" (immanent) and "more than here" (transcendent) - which is the essence of panENtheism.
That's interpretational. Pantheism isn't traditional for Biblical belief, for a reason.you created god as separated by your statement. the bible doesn't state god is separate. you have limited god to "your" self and other self.
Jeremiah 23:24
That's interpretational. Pantheism isn't traditional for Biblical belief, for a reason.
But yet not all are Christ.colossians three 11 says it is god.
christ is all
and
christ is in all
yes, not all recognize they are christ. not all are of the same mind, or at least don't believe they are.But yet not all are Christ.
Nor is everyone Jesus. I think you’re stretching the theology to be something it just isn’t.yes, not all recognize they are christ. not all are of the same mind, or at least don't believe they are.
that is what the name implies. the name that one is immersed into spiritually, mentally
I don’t see how transcendence = separation.god cannot be transcendent. that would be god separated from itself in some aspect, God is ONE.
panentheism is dualism
God is one 'god', not 'everything'. In other words, you haven't got the right ideas, because you are trying fo figure that out, using a faulty premise.god cannot be transcendent. that would be god separated from itself in some aspect, God is ONE.
panentheism is dualism
God is one 'god', not 'everything'. In other words, you haven't got the right ideas, because you are trying fo figure that out, using a faulty premise.
I still don’t see how transcendence = separation.no. you're just trying to redefine words to fit your beliefs.
everywhere literally means always where and always means all
I don’t see how transcendence = separation.
was jesus a pantheist; when he claimed the Father was in him, or the kingdom of God came from within?
John 14:10
or
Luke 17:21
was jesus a pantheist; when he claimed the Father was in him, or the kingdom of God came from within?
John 14:10
or
Luke 17:21
was jesus a pantheist; when he claimed the Father was in him, or the kingdom of God came from within?
I think every reference to him being God in the new testament was a true referral to the belief in the inner Godself, its new age beliefe and I agree with it!
John 14:10
or
Luke 17:21
was jesus a pantheist; when he claimed the Father was in him, or the kingdom of God came from within?
John 14:10
or
Luke 17:21
God is described in several different ways in the Bible, depending on the book and the intended audience. There’s a place where God was described as not found in the earthquake or the windstorm. Biblically, God is described as both transcendent and imminent. God is described as both particular and nowhere.transcendence literally means above something. god isn't above as explained by the bible. god is everywhere