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If America keeps illegal aliens out who will pick our vegetables?

Skwim

Veteran Member
Answer: How about machines?

If it could be done by machines at the same cost or less then it would be done by machines, but in as much as it isn't done by machines means the cost of harvesting vegetables would be higher. So, if illegal alien pickers are replaced by machines plan on paying more.

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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
If it could be done by machines at the same cost or less then it would be done by machines, but in as much as it isn't done by machines means the cost of harvesting vegetables would be higher. So, if illegal alien pickers are replaced by machines plan on paying more.

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???....did you mean that ( harvesting of crops ) could be done by illegal aliens at the same cost or less than it would be done by machines?
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
If it could be done by machines at the same cost or less then it would be done by machines, but in as much as it isn't done by machines means the cost of harvesting vegetables would be higher. So, if illegal alien pickers are replaced by machines plan on paying more.

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Actually it has already happened. American agriculture is already highly mechanized and not based on manual labor, with a few exceptions. Some delicate fruits and difficult to pick nuts are harvested by hand. But most crops aren’t. And even this few that are hand picked are picked by legal residents more than illegal aliens. And most of those few crops still being harvested by hand will soon be harvested by machines. In short, it already is being done by machines.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
???....did you mean that ( harvesting of crops ) could be done by illegal aliens at the same cost or less than it would be done by machines?
No, although I suppose I could have phrased it better---that's what I get for dashing off an answer without paying enough attention to it.

My point is that illegal aliens are used instead of machines because they're cheaper. If machines could do the job at the same cost or less then that's what farmers would use---although if the cost is the same who knows which of the two the farmer would opt for. In any case, as it stands if farmers started using machines instead of illegal aliens its almost a certainty the price we pay for the produce would rise.

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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
No, although I suppose I could have phrased it better---that's what I get for dashing off an answer without paying enough attention to it.

My point is that illegal aliens are used instead of machines because they're cheaper. If machines could do the job at the same cost or less then that's what farmers would use---although if the cost is the same who knows which of the two the farmer would opt for. In any case, as it stands if farmers started using machines instead of illegal aliens its almost a certainty the price we pay for the produce would rise.

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If the cost of illegal aliens doing harvesting were comparable to the cost of machines doing harvesting, I'd favor the machines doing the work in place of people who have no legal right being in America.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Answer: How about machines?


Why can't (insert complaining ethnic demographic on the far right) apply for these jobs and pick fruit, or mow their own lawns, or apply for house keeping? Or do landscaping and climb skyscraper s to clean windows, or work construction or post up outside home Depot to help with housing construction?

I'm asking for a Latino friend....
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
If it could be done by machines at the same cost or less then it would be done by machines, but in as much as it isn't done by machines means the cost of harvesting vegetables would be higher. So, if illegal alien pickers are replaced by machines plan on paying more.

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In the long run, no. Illegals cost the public and a variety of ways.

Eliminating them from the US economy, and eliminating what draws them here, would save every taxpayer money, enough to way offset any extra cost of produce.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Why can't (insert complaining ethnic demographic on the far right) apply for these jobs and pick fruit, or mow their own lawns, or apply for house keeping? Or do landscaping and climb skyscraper s to clean windows, or work construction or post up outside home Depot to help with housing construction?

I'm asking for a Latino friend....

People of shorter, smaller stature are better suited than taller, heavier persons for doing some types of jobs. Also, well-pigmented dark skinned people are better suited than fair-skinned persons for doing outdoor jobs.
 
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Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Fact remains without cheap labor your store bought apple cost .50 cent instead of $2

I do love taco Tuesdays....$1 per taco at El Taco Veloz.

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Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
People of shorter, smaller stature are better suited than taller, heavier persons for doing some types of jobs. Also, well-pigmented dark skinned people are better suited than fair-skinned persons for doing outdoor jobs.
Of course you'd come out with some blatantly racist bull****. Sickening. That was actually an argument used in favor of enslaving black people, if you don't know.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Of course you'd come out with some blatantly racist bull****. Sickening. That was actually an argument used in favor of enslaving black people, if you don't know.

I was neither arguing in favor of racism nor slavery, it just happens to be a fact that a fair skinned person like me working outside all day would be more likely to get sun-burned or skin-cancer than the likelihood of a dark skinned person getting sunburned or skin cancer from working all day outside exposed to the sun.

Also, a short person would have to do less bending for picking low-hanging fruit than the bending that a tall person would do for picking low-hanging fruit; so, a shorter person would naturally be better suited than a taller person like me for doing this type of task.
 
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Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I was neither arguing in favor of racism nor slavery, it just happens to be a fact that a fair skinned person like me working outside all day would be more likely to get sun-burned or skin-cancer than the likelihood of a dark skinned person getting sunburned or skin cancer from working all day outside exposed to the sun.

SO you admit that you're not as genetically advanced as the illegal immigrant might be??
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I was neither arguing in favor of racism nor slavery, it just happens to be a fact that a fair skinned person like me working outside all day would be more likely to get sun-burned or skin-cancer than the likelihood of a dark skinned person getting sunburned or skin cancer from working all day outside exposed to the sun.
I'm not interested in your justifications. It's a pattern with you. You are a racist, going by this and all the other stuff you've said. We have sunblock now, so there's no excuses. White people had no problem tending their own crops for thousands of years beforehand so that's a stupid thing to say.
 
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