ALL RELIGIONS: How do you justify meat eating?

[MonkeyFire]

In my religion I teach that we can eat meat but we mustn't kill the animal. If your passive to it and it dies of evil it's fine to collect the animal as food.

 

[ajay0]

Yes, you can survive just fine without an appendix, but that doesn't mean it is a useless organ.

It may have some limited uses, but not necessarily needed for a survival basis. In fact, appendicitis if untreated can be fatal as well. Some even get their appendix removed as a preemptive step.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

It may have some limited uses, but not necessarily needed for a survival basis. In fact, appendicitis if untreated can be fatal as well. Some even get their appendix removed as a preemptive step.

I already said you can live without it. You can live without a kidney, as well. We kept re-evolving the appendix for some reason.

 

[Marcion]

Indeed, but you can only change yourself. Preaching often actually backfires. It makes people even more determined than ever to counter whatever argument they're being preached to.

Who said anything about preaching? Education is the answer, people should be made aware of what they are doing to their health (and that of their children), the animal kingdom and the planet as a whole. But most of all, real pressure should be put on governments to stop subsidizing and start taxing the abuse of animals and of the planet in general.

 

[ajay0]

I already said you can live without it. You can live without a kidney, as well. We kept re-evolving the appendix for some reason.

The point is, that it may have had a functional use earlier needed for survival, but it does not have that much of a functional use now.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

The point is, that it may have had a functional use earlier needed for survival, but it does not have that much of a functional use now.

The article I posted says otherwise. There's lots we don't understand about the body.

 

[Wasp]

It is permitted in the Qur'an.

 

[Wasp]

Of course man has also been given a digestive system that digests meat and teeth that make it easy to chew meat. If man was meant to be a vegetarian it wouldn't be so, would it?

 

[Goodman John]

In medieval times, some Cathars believed that souls went into animals as well as humans and thus they refrained from eating meat for fear that the animal might have contained a good soul. Interestingly, though, fish were always permitted because it was thought that fish did not, and could not, have souls and did not reproduce via sex. Other groups of Cathars thought eating meat was perfectly fine, though, and only the Perfects- the 'Elders'- declined to do so. (This is the school of thought I personally run with, but since I am the only Cathar I know- other than some pretty weird New Agers somewhere in Europe- I'm pretty much having to reconstruct things as I go.)

 

[Jainarayan]

I just saw this post today, it got me to thinking.

Boss and I have an ongoing discussion on how we, as vegetarians, should approach non-vegetarians. I think our differences were caused by me being a teacher, having to watch people eat meat, while she was a stay at home Mom, and rarely got to watch people eat meat. Therefore, when she sees it, which is really rare, it turns her stomach.

I can see her point. I see tv commercials for Longhorn Steakhouse, Outback, Golden Corral. We're bombarded with them. I don't know if you have those chains up there. When I see the clips of steaks, and hear the voice-over extolling the beauties and virtues of them, it really is a turn-off. The Majordomo i.e. husband will say "ooh, doesn't that look good?" I tell him "no, no it doesn't". And I do mean it, I'm not just being contrary. However, a huge bowl of pasta will turn my crankshaft. I haven't had any mammal flesh in almost two weeks now, and I can't say I miss it. Chicken and fish, yes (have had).

I'm not sure how I'll handle it on the rare occasions we go out to eat. When we order Italian or Chinese take-out... that's easy enough for me at this point since I still eat chicken and fish. There aren't many places in my area that cater to vegetarians, though pasta dishes abound even in diners. It's definitely something of a challenge and learning experience.

 

[Vinayaka]

I just saw this post today, it got me to thinking.



I can see her point. I see tv commercials for Longhorn Steakhouse, Outback, Golden Corral. We're bombarded with them. I don't know if you have those chains up there. When I see the clips of steaks, and hear the voice-over extolling the beauties and virtues of them, it really is a turn-off. The Majordomo i.e. husband will say "ooh, doesn't that look good?" I tell him "no, no it doesn't". And I do mean it, I'm not just being contrary. However, a huge bowl of pasta will turn my crankshaft. I haven't had any mammal flesh in almost two weeks now, and I can't say I miss it. Chicken and fish, yes (have had).

I'm not sure how I'll handle it on the rare occasions we go out to eat. When we order Italian or Chinese take-out... that's easy enough for me at this point since I still eat chicken and fish. There aren't many places in my area that cater to vegetarians, though pasta dishes abound even in diners. It's definitely something of a challenge and learning experience.

We don't eat out much either. Last fall on our long trip Subway was the default, and the guy in front of me would be getting a meatball sub. Happy to say it didn't bother me one iota. I think the last time it bothered was at a family reunion where they roasted a whole pig on a large barbecue spit for 6 hours or so, and a couple of very obese distant relatives stacked their plates with about 5 pounds or roast pork. But that bothered anyone with an inkling of healthy eating consciousness.

 

[Jainarayan]

We don't eat out much either. Last fall on our long trip Subway was the default, and the guy in front of me would be getting a meatball sub. Happy to say it didn't bother me one iota. I think the last time it bothered was at a family reunion where they roasted a whole pig on a large barbecue spit for 6 hours or so, and a couple of very obese distant relatives stacked their plates with about 5 pounds or roast pork. But that bothered anyone with an inkling of healthy eating consciousness.

I've thought about Subway too, especially for lunch. I'm actually lazy and don't go out at lunch but I could. The on-site cafeteria is hit or miss. Usually I bring my own food. Subway has a veg. sub that looks pretty good. I gotta check them out. I've been to pig roasts. Sorry, not sorry, I think it's barbaric.

 

[Vinayaka]

I've thought about Subway too, especially for lunch. I'm actually lazy and don't go out at lunch but I could. The on-site cafeteria is hit or miss. Usually I bring my own food. Subway has a veg. sub that looks pretty good. I gotta check them out. I've been to pig roasts. Sorry, not sorry, I think it's barbaric.

Do you have Freshii in the US? That place is better than Subway, a bit costlier, but also not as common.

 

[Jainarayan]

Do you have Freshii in the US? That place is better than Subway, a bit costlier, but also not as common.

I haven't heard of it. I'll look it up. But of course I also have no idea who this Epstein bloke is that killed himself.