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Norway mosque shooting an 'attempted act of terror', police say

We Never Know

No Slack
I wish that day comes when guns are illegal to own.

If guns become illegal to own, for starters how do propose to control the population of deer, elk, wolves, coyote, fox, racoon, turkey, dove, quail, opossum, armidillo, bear, squirrel, rabbit, snake, etc.?
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
The islamic community in Norway has sendt a huge condolance to the family of the 17 year old girl who died in the terror attack this weekend. And the family Even in the difficult situation are happy to join friendship with muslims in Norway.
And yes the shooter is the brother of the girl who got killed.

As far as i see. The muslim community is not angry at the man who atrack them.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
If guns become illegal to own, for starters how do propose to control the population of deer, elk, wolves, coyote, fox, racoon, turkey, dove, quail, opossum, armidillo, bear, squirrel, rabbit, snake, etc.?
Obviously, government would still have guns.
In my ultra leftish town, the city pays government workers
to shoot excess deer, which are pretty destructive pests.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Obviously, government would still have guns.
In my ultra leftish town, the city pays government workers
to shoot excess deer, which are pretty destructive pests.

There's no deer hunting season there?

In Oklahoma during the 2017-2018 deer hunting season there were 107,914 deer killed(turned in). If the average yield was 50 pounds of meat per deer, that's 5,395,700 pounds of meat which fed/will feed a whole lot of people.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There's no deer hunting season there?
Not in the city limits.
In Oklahoma during the 2017-2018 deer hunting season there were 107,914 deer killed(turned in). If the average yield was 50 pounds of meat per deer, that's 5,395,700 pounds of meat which fed/will feed a whole lot of people.
There are many hunters here too.
Deer sausage is my favorite.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Not in the city limits.

There are many hunters here too.
Deer sausage is my favorite.

I don't think very many, if any places allow hunting within city limits. Where I live deer may venture inside the city limits but not many, if any reside and reproduce inside city limits.

Deer jerky is my favorite.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I don't think very many, if any places allow hunting within city limits. Where I live deer may venture inside the city limits but not many, if any reside and reproduce inside city limits.

Deer jerky is my favorite.
We have enuf woods in the city to support a goodly sized population of rats of the forest deer.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
So did he. You just have different opinions over which people should be "removed" for the good of society.
Yes, because wanting to execute a terrorist who murdered 77 innocent people is totally the same as that terrorist killing those people. How completely stupid and offensive.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
If you'd just agree with me all the time,
life would be easier for you.
And there would be doggie treats.
But where would the fun be if we did not spar about things 1/2 of the time. As long as we agree 50% of the time and disagree 50% of the time, we're in balance.
 

Ponder This

Well-Known Member
I'm not really for or against the death penalty, but the lack of reversibility argument doesn't really make sense to me. People's lives can be irreversibly ruined by imprisonment. No one has a magic wand of eternal youth that gives it all back.

I'm just imagining 'the man in black' lying on 'the machine' and Count Rugen calmly telling him, "I've just sucked one year of your life away".

Using the lack of reversibility argument, how can you be pro-imprisonment?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I'm not really for or against the death penalty, but the lack of reversibility argument doesn't really make sense to me. People's lives can be irreversibly ruined by imprisonment. No one has a magic wand of eternal youth that gives it all back.

I'm just imagining 'the man in black' lying on 'the machine' and Count Rugen calmly telling him, "I've just sucked one year of your life away".

Using the lack of reversibility argument, how can you be pro-imprisonment?

I agree. Also prisons don't rehabilitate and after many years many become dependant on the prison system, institutionalized I think it's called.
 

Messianic Israelite

Active Member
I'm surprised with the argument for and against the death penalty that - from what I've seen so far - no-one has mentioned what the Bible has to say. I know I don't have to remind anyone that the Bible enforces the death penalty for sin specifically in the Hebrew Scriptures. In the New Testament, people still received the death penalty by Yahweh for sin such as was the case in Acts 5 with Ananias and Sapphira. The death penalty is therefore a legitimate and moral avenue for punishing ardent sinners. If it has the wisdom of eternal ages behind it, it must be considered a valid alternative.

As someone mentioned, getting rid of people like this - murderers - protects society. It protects people emotionally, it protects people physically from the same action. How many murderers are repeat offenders? The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) conducted a five-year study of 404,639 prisoners from 30 states that was released in 2005. Within three years, 67.8 percent of them had been arrested again. Obviously, Yahweh's wisdom stands.

For those who don't consider the death penalty a viable option, I would say that you're not considering the feelings of the victims or the needs of the dead. If the dead could speak, what would they say? When Cain killed Abel, the Bible says Abels blood cried out from the ground. Yahweh considers what the dead would say and to the most part, the dead would want justice as is the case in Revelation 6:10.

I wish more people would consider what the Bible has to say.

Messianic.
 

Spirit of Light

Be who ever you want
I'm surprised with the argument for and against the death penalty that - from what I've seen so far - no-one has mentioned what the Bible has to say. I know I don't have to remind anyone that the Bible enforces the death penalty for sin specifically in the Hebrew Scriptures. In the New Testament, people still received the death penalty by Yahweh for sin such as was the case in Acts 5 with Ananias and Sapphira. The death penalty is therefore a legitimate and moral avenue for punishing ardent sinners. If it has the wisdom of eternal ages behind it, it must be considered a valid alternative.

As someone mentioned, getting rid of people like this - murderers - protects society. It protects people emotionally, it protects people physically from the same action. How many murderers are repeat offenders? The Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) conducted a five-year study of 404,639 prisoners from 30 states that was released in 2005. Within three years, 67.8 percent of them had been arrested again. Obviously, Yahweh's wisdom stands.

For those who don't consider the death penalty a viable option, I would say that you're not considering the feelings of the victims or the needs of the dead. If the dead could speak, what would they say? When Cain killed Abel, the Bible says Abels blood cried out from the ground. Yahweh considers what the dead would say and to the most part, the dead would want justice as is the case in Revelation 6:10.

I wish more people would consider what the Bible has to say.

Messianic.
As a Norwegian Buddhist, I can not see any benefit of the death penalty. Why should governmental employees get the right to kill because someone did a crime to others? Yes, it is wrong to kill in any situation. And since this thread is about what happened in my country, i just want to say Norway got rid of the death penalty in about the mid-60s or so. And we have not a lot of killings in this country.
Who going to kill the governmental employee when he/she has killed the murderer? because if the governmental employee kills it means they are up for the same situation too, right? they just killed someone. So no Death peanalty does not work in a democratic country as Norway
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
I'm surprised with the argument for and against the death penalty that - from what I've seen so far - no-one has mentioned what the Bible has to say.
Because this isn't really a religious thread and not all of us care what the Bible has to say as not all of us follow an Abrahamic religion.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
As a Norwegian Buddhist, I can not see any benefit of the death penalty. Why should governmental employees get the right to kill because someone did a crime to others? Yes, it is wrong to kill in any situation. And since this thread is about what happened in my country, i just want to say Norway got rid of the death penalty in about the mid-60s or so. And we have not a lot of killings in this country.
Who going to kill the governmental employee when he/she has killed the murderer? because if the governmental employee kills it means they are up for the same situation too, right? they just killed someone. So no Death peanalty does not work in a democratic country as Norway

The huge difference you are over looking is the executioner(gov employee) is killing someone legally for their illegal crimes and that someone who murdered another(illegally) has faced his peers and legal system and putting them to death was what his peers and the legal system deemed appropriate.

What's the difference between homicide, murder and manslaughter? - Murphy Law Office
 
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