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THE HUNT, new movie

shmogie

Well-Known Member
How hard can it be to copy/paste a URL? Do you actually type them out manually? :D

Trump Freaks Out Over ‘The Hunt,’ a Satirical Film He Doesn’t Understand, as U.S. Reels From Mass Shootings

President Trump took time out of his busy Friday to highlight yet another personal grievance: an upcoming “Racist” movie from “Liberal Hollywood,” the satirical point of which the president couldn’t understand or seemingly didn’t care to grasp...

The satirical premise of the film appeared to turn on lampooning well-off, angry liberals, portraying them as villainous psychos and the abducted right-wingers as victims in a horror scenario.

The nuance seemed lost on the president, whose annoyance at the picture had been brewing for days.


This is why it is important to actually watch things before flying off the handle about them.
You conveniently left out the term used, deploreables..
 

sooda

Veteran Member
How hard can it be to copy/paste a URL? Do you actually type them out manually? :D

Trump Freaks Out Over ‘The Hunt,’ a Satirical Film He Doesn’t Understand, as U.S. Reels From Mass Shootings

President Trump took time out of his busy Friday to highlight yet another personal grievance: an upcoming “Racist” movie from “Liberal Hollywood,” the satirical point of which the president couldn’t understand or seemingly didn’t care to grasp...

The satirical premise of the film appeared to turn on lampooning well-off, angry liberals, portraying them as villainous psychos and the abducted right-wingers as victims in a horror scenario.

The nuance seemed lost on the president, whose annoyance at the picture had been brewing for days.


This is why it is important to actually watch things before flying off the handle about them.

Trump is not very bright. He hears no voice but his own... and he NEVER shuts up.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
I am not demanding, I am suggesting. :)

But what I would like to see are studies done on the prevalence of guns and the psychological impact.

I believe that just owning a gun has a profound impact on how a person views the world, and the more powerful the gun the more powerful that psychological impact. And I believe that psychological impact is drastically more significant than the impact of a game, or a movie.

I have no evidence to back that up, because the studies have not been done. But there is a saying that when you are carrying a hammer everything looks like a nail. So what must the world look like to someone carrying a “hammer” designed to kill people.

I also think there is a psychological impact of just hearing news reports of mass shootings. I think that is having an impact. I would like to see that studied more.
Extending your theory, playing marbles or changing a light bulb have psychological effects.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
You conveniently never proved 'deplorables' was even used. That's the conspiracy theory you've bought into.
Sigh, no conspiracy theory, it was part of the screen play, part of the movie.

You first said that the hunters being liberals was a conspiracy theory, I note you have dropped that bogus CHARGE.

I will move my hotspot so I can copy and paste you the links from my PC, I don't know how to do it from my tablet.

Do you like bourbon sauce with your naked crow ? You will e eating it, whether you like it or not.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
Sigh, no conspiracy theory, it was part of the screen play, part of the movie.

You first said that the hunters being liberals was a conspiracy theory, I note you have dropped that bogus CHARGE.

I will move my hotspot so I can copy and paste you the links from my PC, I don't know how to do it from my tablet.

Do you like bourbon sauce with your naked crow ? You will e eating it, whether you like it or not.
What makes you think deplorables was used? What makes you think the elitists are liberals?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Hopalong Cassidy never killed any bad guy, he shot him in the arm.
Perhaps. But at the same time Hoppy was shooting bad guys in the arm hundreds of Good Ole' Cowboys and Calvery Guys were killing savage indians. Your memory seems to be selective.

I used to walk 2 -1/2 miles to school, part of it through orange groves. We all did it, girls and boys.

There is no parent in their right mind who would allow their fourth grader to do that now,

I was one of those kids. Back then, if I lived in rural New York and a kid got abducted in rural Kentucky, we New Yorkers never heard about it. News of that kind was local. Today we hear about the more dramatic ones wherever they happen.

So, is it more now or is it more widely publicized now?
 
You conveniently left out the term used, deploreables..

It makes no difference

The satirical premise of the film appeared to turn on lampooning well-off, angry liberals, portraying them as villainous psychos and the abducted right-wingers "deplorables" as victims in a horror scenario.

The nuance seemed lost on the president shmogie, whose annoyance at the picture had been brewing for days.
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
It makes no difference

The satirical premise of the film appeared to turn on lampooning well-off, angry liberals, portraying them as villainous psychos and the abducted right-wingers "deplorables" as victims in a horror scenario.

The nuance seemed lost on the president shmogie, whose annoyance at the picture had been brewing for days.
Who cares about what Trump thinks regarding the matter ?

The movie is an ultra left wingers wet dream. Murdering political enemies, people with southern accents from red states.

It is glorification of political violence in a country with way too many loons who want to kill people for political reasons.

Mark Twain is satire, this movie simply holds a political message, regardless of who is alleged to be the good or bad guy.
 
The movie is an ultra left wingers wet dream. Murdering political enemies, people with southern accents from red states.

It is glorification of political violence in a country with way too many loons who want to kill people for political reasons.

Unfortunately, you quite obviously don't understand the concept of satire. If you did, you wouldn't makes such an inane point.

Your post makes as much sense as saying Animal Farm glorifies communism because it is about communism, or saying Dr Strangelove is glorification of nuclear war.
 

tytlyf

Not Religious
The movie is an ultra left wingers wet dream. Murdering political enemies, people with southern accents from red states.
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Stop trolling. Stop with the conspiracy theories. Do you take medication?

You're sooooo triggered over this, that's how radical RW media likes it
 

shmogie

Well-Known Member
Stop trolling. Stop with the conspiracy theories. Do you take medication?

You're sooooo triggered over this, that's how radical RW media likes it
LOL. You are the only person on earth who denies this movie contains what it contains. No one associated with it denies the content. Those who have previewed the movie affirm the crassly political content.

There is no conspiracy about anything.

You got caught on the lying side of the equation.

Of course the movie has angered me, and I am very glad it won´t be released.

I spent many years as a LEO, and I have dealt with some loons who were violent and influenced by stuff like this.

Today we have lefty ANTIFA who are extremely violent because of politics, we have murderers shooting people down because of politics, we have right wing groups preaching hate and this movie is just another piece of this garbage.

There is no need for any more crude , blatant incentives for violence.

Because Trump went nuts about the movie, as he goes nuts about something every day, you HAD to defend the movie. Those with Trump derangement syndrome MUST disagree with him on every issue. They seem totally unable to think through issues on their own. Trump is against something, those with TDS are for it, even if they don´t know what it is.

Your condition nailed you on this. Keep pretending if you choose. The emperor has no clothes.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Stop trolling. Stop with the conspiracy theories.
Now you've done it...you broke it!
th
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I was a LEO for 25 years, a criminal investigator for a chunk of those years.

Either there is evidence to go to the grand jury, or file with the DA, where a case can be taken to court and adjudicated, or there is not.

Conspiracy is a specific intent crime. One must be able to prove the subject had specific intent to commit the crime. Without intent, there is no conspiracy.

If I cannot feel comfortable with my evidence,if it is weak, and will not prove conspiracy, the case ends.

Now, what you think about my investigation or the quality of evidence it is totally irrelevant. It is like counting goals in a table tennis game, it means nothing, just another opinion.

The investigator and prosecutor are responsible for evaluating evidence and bringing a case are the only ones that count.

No case means no conspiracy. Anyone accused is presumed innocent till they are proved guilty in a court of law.

No adjudication, no crime, innocence.

Again, opinions mean nothing.
"During his Wednesday testimony before the House Judiciary Committee, special counsel Robert Mueller told Rep. Ken Buck, R-Colo., that a president could be charged with a crime after leaving office.

Buck asked Mueller about the practices of his special counsel's office and their decision not to charge President Donald Trump with the crime of obstruction of justice.

"Could you charge the president with a crime after he left office?" Buck asked.

Mueller responded, "yes."

Buck asked again, "You could charge the President of the United States with obstruction of justice after he left office," to which Mueller responded again, "yes."

Mueller was referring to a 2000 Justice Department Office of Legal Counsel (OLC) memo that had concluded, "a sitting President is constitutionally immune from indictment and criminal prosecution." He cited the same memo when previously declining to make a determination on charging Trump with a crime.

During the hearing, however, Mueller did not make a recommendation for or against obstruction charges for Trump, and instead discussed the Justice Department policy.

"The OLC opinion says that the prosecutor cannot bring a charge against a sitting president, nonetheless he can continue the investigation to see if there are any other persons who are drawn into the conspiracy," continued Mueller.

Earlier, Buck had asked Mueller if his team had found "sufficient evidence" to convict Trump or campaign associates with obstruction of justice."
Mueller: A president can be charged with obstruction of justice after leaving office


Mueller said in response, “we did not make that calculation” because of the OLC memo.

The memo came up again during later questioning in the hearing.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I think there have been lots of studies in this area. And they seem to refute the idea that they cause people to act out violently. Not that I am opposed to more studies, there are probably studies going on right now.

My opinion is that violent games and movies are not a major factor in the current epidemic of gun violence in the U.S. If there is evidence to the contrary I will reconsider.

But right now I think this idea is being put forward as a distraction.
Not too long ago, I wrote a paper on the subject of whether violent video games cause violent behavior (e.g. aggressiveness, lack of empathy) in young adults. Earlier studies had indicated a tentative connection between the two, but later studies done under more rigorous conditions do not point to the same conclusions. In fact, most recent studies were not able to draw a correlation between violent video game play and violent behavior in young adults at all. And in some cases, such as online multiplayer games where the players have to work together as a team to beat a "boss," results showed that such players tended to be more co-operative and engaged in other pro-social behaviors (e.g. sharing, volunteering) in "real life."

Also, there are hardcore gamers all over the world, including in countries with very low violent gun crime rates (e.g. Japan).

Just my two cents.
 
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