Epic Beard Man
Bearded Philosopher
Why do kings and queens want others to worship them?
Which king and queen wants that?
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Why do kings and queens want others to worship them?
Which king and queen wants that?
The Queen of England rules 16 countries: Antigua, Barbuda, Australia, Barbados, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saintb Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, TheBahamas, Tuvalu and the United Kingdom.
Disrespect her instead of worshiping her and see what happens.
Interesting considering "The Queen" doesn't have power like that.
Power like what? Anymore even judges want to be worshiped. You have to rise when they enter the room and they hold your fate in court.
The Queen can't say "hey let's go to war with Turkmenistan" without convening to others who hold power. Unlike the Creator, she doesn't hold that kind of influence.
The Queen of England, not really. Kings (and other titles) of the past, very much so. The Kim Jongs, it does seem likely. And what better way to cement power than to convince people your reign is divinely ordained? You don't just rebel against the king, you rebel against god. IMO, it might partially explain why we have for so long and still today put up with their crap instead of uniting and tossing them out.The Queen of England rules 16 countries: Antigua, Barbuda, Australia, Barbados, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saintb Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, TheBahamas, Tuvalu and the United Kingdom.
Disrespect her instead of worshiping her and see what happens.
One of the most fundamental questions many of us in private and open have asked and I, myself have asked as well. Why does a deity who created the universe want simple life forms to worship him. My personal answer is I don't know. But if I can create an educated guess, I believe the nature of human psychological evolution is that servitude to something greater is inherent. Humans are social creatures who have developed systems where we've become subservient to leadership from a macro and micro level. In times of crisis most of us unaware in how to deal with tragedy seek leadership or someone that knows something. When we work our 9 to 5 we follow a leader such as a manager or director. Like ants, I believe humans have an inherent sense of social skills where we follow someone who we believe has greater knowledge. Assuming God is real I firmly believe the psychological evolution of humans is that humanity is meant to follow "something" whether you call it God, Allah, Tuhan, something greater than ourselves much like the tribal relationships we have.
What are your thoughts?
(See Ten Commandments)
Do they say God demands worship? I didn’t find scripture that demands us to worship God.
Not looking to get into a bible debate, yet I doubt that there is anywhere that Jesus had fear or had fear of displeasing his ‘Father.’
1 John 4:18 would go against that as well.
‘Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.’
All I see in that is only being loving to only your own group of people. Anyone can see in a lot of Leviticus how nasty it can be to other groups of people such as: Leviticus 21:18-20.
What is your take about John 4:23-24 _________________Do they say God demands worship? I didn’t find scripture that demands us to worship God.
Your ^ above ^ post reminds me that during the times of judges in ancient Israel the people wanted a king (authority figure) and God listened to the people and gave them a king who turned out to be Israel's first king - King Saul.I don't know how clear I can be...Human beings are social creatures. We develop a hierarchal order which means we have naturally appealed to someone of a higher authority. Tribes for instance have chiefs so what I'm saying is that naturally humans have always an affinity to appealing to an authority figure.
Do they say God demands worship? I didn’t find scripture that demands us to worship God.
Your ^ above ^ post reminds me that during the times of judges in ancient Israel the people wanted a king (authority figure) and God listened to the people and gave them a king who turned out to be Israel's first king - King Saul.
I can only speak from a Christian viewpoint, so here's the deal with Christian worship and why God desires it from us.One of the most fundamental questions many of us in private and open have asked and I, myself have asked as well. Why does a deity who created the universe want simple life forms to worship him. My personal answer is I don't know. But if I can create an educated guess, I believe the nature of human psychological evolution is that servitude to something greater is inherent. Humans are social creatures who have developed systems where we've become subservient to leadership from a macro and micro level. In times of crisis most of us unaware in how to deal with tragedy seek leadership or someone that knows something. When we work our 9 to 5 we follow a leader such as a manager or director. Like ants, I believe humans have an inherent sense of social skills where we follow someone who we believe has greater knowledge. Assuming God is real I firmly believe the psychological evolution of humans is that humanity is meant to follow "something" whether you call it God, Allah, Tuhan, something greater than ourselves much like the tribal relationships we have.
What are your thoughts?
"I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no gods before me"
It is clearly commanding believers to not worship any deities aside or before God...
What is your take about John 4:23-24 _________________
I can only speak from a Christian viewpoint, so here's the deal with Christian worship and why God desires it from us.
First of all, for the Christian, God is love, and love is a way of being with others. God is expressed in community -- the Trinity. God created humanity in God's image -- that is, as self-expressed only as we relate to others (it's not good for the man to be alone...).
The goal of worship is transformation. In worship, we want to open ourselves to having God create with us through the acts we plan and carry out. The word "worship" comes from two Anglo-Saxon root words, the second meaning "shape" and the first from the word warden, meaning, "to become." So worship is a shape of events in which we become something. Further, in worship, we become co-creators with God. The Greek word for worship in the bible is leiturgia, also from two roots, laos and ergon. Laos means "people" and ergon means "work." So leiturgia, or liturgy, is "the work of the people." In worship, we co-create along with God.
This co-creative process of worship both fosters and demands relationship. We worship in order to be transformed in loving relationship. God desires our worship, so that God can also be in loving relationship with us. It really has nothing to do with obeisance or scraping in supplication. It has nothing to do with blind adoration. It has to do with love, which is, after all, what God is.
Yes, not to worship other gods, but Bible don’t seem to have any scripture where God demands us to worship Him.