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We had a pre-earth life we don't have memory of?

JM123

New Member
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?
Bible in no way supports pre-existence.
 

Pastek

Sunni muslim
from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?

But from where they got it ?

We have something in that type in Islam but I don't know that much about.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?

The Mormons call it "Pre-existence", I think. Jeremiah 1:5 refers to the concept. It is something to contemplate.

So, before we had a physical life here on Earth, we were with God as Angels? Perhaps Spirits? Then after this life, when we are with God, (Matt 22:30) we are neither married nor are given in marriage... Nearing the end of my own existence here on Earth, I wonder if I've done what I was supposed to do?
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
No we do not have reincarnation, but it's more the idea that we were created (our souls) before coming to earth with this shape.

It is something to meditate on in our Prayers, but none of us can prove anything, or use anything to persecute another.
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?

Well, maybe your previous life died of dementia. That could explain why you forgot everything about it.

Makes sense?

Ciao

- viole
 

Audie

Veteran Member
The Egg

By: Andy Weir


You were on your way home when you died.

It was a car accident. Nothing particularly remarkable, but fatal nonetheless. You left behind a wife and two children. It was a painless death. The EMTs tried their best to save you, but to no avail. Your body was so utterly shattered you were better off, trust me.

And that’s when you met me.

“What… what happened?” You asked. “Where am I?”

“You died,” I said, matter-of-factly. No point in mincing words.

“There was a… a truck and it was skidding…”

“Yup,” I said.

“I… I died?”

“Yup. But don’t feel bad about it. Everyone dies,” I said.

You looked around. There was nothingness. Just you and me. “What is this place?” You asked. “Is this the afterlife?”

“More or less,” I said.

“Are you god?” You asked.

“Yup,” I replied. “I’m God.”

“My kids… my wife,” you said.

“What about them?”

“Will they be all right?”

“That’s what I like to see,” I said. “You just died and your main concern is for your family. That’s good stuff right there.”

You looked at me with fascination. To you, I didn’t look like God. I just looked like some man. Or possibly a woman. Some vague authority figure, maybe. More of a grammar school teacher than the almighty.

“Don’t worry,” I said. “They’ll be fine. Your kids will remember you as perfect in every way. They didn’t have time to grow contempt for you. Your wife will cry on the outside, but will be secretly relieved. To be fair, your marriage was falling apart. If it’s any consolation, she’ll feel very guilty for feeling relieved.”

“Oh,” you said. “So what happens now? Do I go to heaven or hell or something?”

“Neither,” I said. “You’ll be reincarnated.”

“Ah,” you said. “So the Hindus were right,”

“All religions are right in their own way,” I said. “Walk with me.”

You followed along as we strode through the void. “Where are we going?”

“Nowhere in particular,” I said. “It’s just nice to walk while we talk.”

“So what’s the point, then?” You asked. “When I get reborn, I’ll just be a blank slate, right? A baby. So all my experiences and everything I did in this life won’t matter.”

“Not so!” I said. “You have within you all the knowledge and experiences of all your past lives. You just don’t remember them right now.”

I stopped walking and took you by the shoulders. “Your soul is more magnificent, beautiful, and gigantic than you can possibly imagine. A human mind can only contain a tiny fraction of what you are. It’s like sticking your finger in a glass of water to see if it’s hot or cold. You put a tiny part of yourself into the vessel, and when you bring it back out, you’ve gained all the experiences it had.

“You’ve been in a human for the last 48 years, so you haven’t stretched out yet and felt the rest of your immense consciousness. If we hung out here for long enough, you’d start remembering everything. But there’s no point to doing that between each life.”

“How many times have I been reincarnated, then?”

“Oh lots. Lots and lots. An in to lots of different lives.” I said. “This time around, you’ll be a Chinese peasant girl in 540 AD.”

“Wait, what?” You stammered. “You’re sending me back in time?”

“Well, I guess technically. Time, as you know it, only exists in your universe. Things are different where I come from.”

“Where you come from?” You said.

“Oh sure,” I explained “I come from somewhere. Somewhere else. And there are others like me. I know you’ll want to know what it’s like there, but honestly you wouldn’t understand.”

“Oh,” you said, a little let down. “But wait. If I get reincarnated to other places in time, I could have interacted with myself at some point.”

“Sure. Happens all the time. And with both lives only aware of their own lifespan you don’t even know it’s happening.”

“So what’s the point of it all?”

“Seriously?” I asked. “Seriously? You’re asking me for the meaning of life? Isn’t that a little stereotypical?”

“Well it’s a reasonable question,” you persisted.

I looked you in the eye. “The meaning of life, the reason I made this whole universe, is for you to mature.”

“You mean mankind? You want us to mature?”

“No, just you. I made this whole universe for you. With each new life you grow and mature and become a larger and greater intellect.”

“Just me? What about everyone else?”

“There is no one else,” I said. “In this universe, there’s just you and me.”

You stared blankly at me. “But all the people on earth…”

“All you. Different incarnations of you.”

“Wait. I’m everyone!?”

“Now you’re getting it,” I said, with a congratulatory slap on the back.

“I’m every human being who ever lived?”

“Or who will ever live, yes.”

“I’m Abraham Lincoln?”

“And you’re John Wilkes Booth, too,” I added.

“I’m Hitler?” You said, appalled.

“And you’re the millions he killed.”

“I’m Jesus?”

“And you’re everyone who followed him.”

You fell silent.

“Every time you victimized someone,” I said, “you were victimizing yourself. Every act of kindness you’ve done, you’ve done to yourself. Every happy and sad moment ever experienced by any human was, or will be, experienced by you.”

You thought for a long time.

“Why?” You asked me. “Why do all this?”

“Because someday, you will become like me. Because that’s what you are. You’re one of my kind. You’re my child.”

“Whoa,” you said, incredulous. “You mean I’m a god?”

“No. Not yet. You’re a fetus. You’re still growing. Once you’ve lived every human life throughout all time, you will have grown enough to be born.”

“So the whole universe,” you said, “it’s just…”

“An egg.” I answered. “Now it’s time for you to move on to your next life.”

And I sent you on your way.
 

David T

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?
Oh we remeber till about 4.

Hmmm heartbeat some wierd before i existed thing wierd it seems to remember something. Luckh me i am up here veain back there heat down there Nd toes at the bottom.
My god its like my own personal robot!!!! Weeeeeeeee hey brain stop that you distracted me a cute lady walked by. There i am back in contol robot weeeeeee.
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

You might find it helpful to read the Wikipedia page which includes Christianity Reincarnation - Wikipedia

You have reincarnation in Islam?

While it's not part of orthodox Islam, here too we can find groups which include reincarnation.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?

Yeup this has been a long held theory of mine. I believe this is the reason some people believe they have been reincarnated, and even claim to have memories from a previous life.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life"


If everyone forgets their pre-earth life, how can anyone assert that there is such a thing as a pre-earth life?

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?

How could something that is impossible, enlighten you?
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?

From what I understand, our soul is given at conception. What state our soul was prior to that moment, before we enter a consciousness, I see has not been disclosed in scriptures to date. That I know of.

There are many Baha'i writings yet to be translated, it could be there is more to discover on this subject.

Regards Tony
 

leov

Well-Known Member
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?
I see it in The Prodigal Son ( Luke15).
 

Rise

Well-Known Member
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

"When we were born, we forgot our pre-earth life" and "Coming to earth is part of His plan of happiness for us, which allows us to receive a physical body in His image and continue to increase in wisdom and faith"

I personally wanted to share, as it enlightened me because I didn't realize I had a life before I was born that I forgot?

It's no surprise you've never heard of that before - because it's not found anywhere in the Bible or the teachings and traditions of the early pre-roman church.

That's a mormon website.
Their beliefs aren't consistent with what the Bible says, or even what the early church fathers taught. They base their beliefs on their book of mormon, along with the historical teachings of their leaders from the 19th century. And then they choose to disregard everything in the Bible which contradicts the book of mormon.
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
I have been a Christian for 35 years. I don't study it as I should be doing and am not on a level of knowledge as some in the forums. However this is the first I have heard of this, don't ask me how I missed it in teachings, but from churchofjesuschrist.org:

The above referenced website is indeed that of the Mormon church.
 
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