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Why does God want humans to worship him?

We Never Know

No Slack
Which king and queen wants that?

The Queen of England rules 16 countries: Antigua, Barbuda, Australia, Barbados, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saintb Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, TheBahamas, Tuvalu and the United Kingdom.

Disrespect her instead of worshiping her and see what happens.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
The Queen of England rules 16 countries: Antigua, Barbuda, Australia, Barbados, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saintb Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, TheBahamas, Tuvalu and the United Kingdom.

Disrespect her instead of worshiping her and see what happens.

Interesting considering "The Queen" doesn't have power like that.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Power like what? Anymore even judges want to be worshiped. You have to rise when they enter the room and they hold your fate in court.

The Queen can't say "hey let's go to war with Turkmenistan" without convening to others who hold power. Unlike the Creator, she doesn't hold that kind of influence.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
The Queen can't say "hey let's go to war with Turkmenistan" without convening to others who hold power. Unlike the Creator, she doesn't hold that kind of influence.

That has nothing to do with being worshipped as the queen. Like it or not there are many people in this world that feel they should be worshipped when in reality they are just here humans like they rest of us.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The Queen of England rules 16 countries: Antigua, Barbuda, Australia, Barbados, Belize, Canada, Grenada, Jamaica, New Zealand, Papua New Guinea, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saintb Vincent and the Grenadines, Solomon Islands, TheBahamas, Tuvalu and the United Kingdom.

Disrespect her instead of worshiping her and see what happens.
The Queen of England, not really. Kings (and other titles) of the past, very much so. The Kim Jongs, it does seem likely. And what better way to cement power than to convince people your reign is divinely ordained? You don't just rebel against the king, you rebel against god. IMO, it might partially explain why we have for so long and still today put up with their crap instead of uniting and tossing them out.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
One of the most fundamental questions many of us in private and open have asked and I, myself have asked as well. Why does a deity who created the universe want simple life forms to worship him. My personal answer is I don't know. But if I can create an educated guess, I believe the nature of human psychological evolution is that servitude to something greater is inherent. Humans are social creatures who have developed systems where we've become subservient to leadership from a macro and micro level. In times of crisis most of us unaware in how to deal with tragedy seek leadership or someone that knows something. When we work our 9 to 5 we follow a leader such as a manager or director. Like ants, I believe humans have an inherent sense of social skills where we follow someone who we believe has greater knowledge. Assuming God is real I firmly believe the psychological evolution of humans is that humanity is meant to follow "something" whether you call it God, Allah, Tuhan, something greater than ourselves much like the tribal relationships we have.

What are your thoughts?

Worship of God has its psychological ground in realizing that one is truly at the mercy of social and physical forces that will always be greater than ones own. In worshipping God one should be humbled and yet at the same time encouraged to be bold enough to make choices and take action toward ones happiness.
 

Rise

Well-Known Member
Do they say God demands worship? I didn’t find scripture that demands us to worship God.

Exodus 20 :
2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.3 “You shall have no other gods before me. 4 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

Exodus 34:14
Deuteronomy 6:13-14
2 Kings 17:35-36
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Not looking to get into a bible debate, yet I doubt that there is anywhere that Jesus had fear or had fear of displeasing his ‘Father.’
1 John 4:18 would go against that as well.
‘Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.’
All I see in that is only being loving to only your own group of people. Anyone can see in a lot of Leviticus how nasty it can be to other groups of people such as: Leviticus 21:18-20.

I find Jesus did his Father's will of 'deed and truth' ( teaching Scripture as religious truth - John 17:17 )
Leviticus 21:16-24 is talking about the priests having No physical defects.
That is because Jesus as High Priest would be unblemished, and they were a picture of coming Messiah.
Plus, I notice you made No comment about Leviticus 19:33-34
What do you find there about only being loving to only your own group of people _______________
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
I don't know how clear I can be...Human beings are social creatures. We develop a hierarchal order which means we have naturally appealed to someone of a higher authority. Tribes for instance have chiefs so what I'm saying is that naturally humans have always an affinity to appealing to an authority figure.
Your ^ above ^ post reminds me that during the times of judges in ancient Israel the people wanted a king (authority figure) and God listened to the people and gave them a king who turned out to be Israel's first king - King Saul.
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Do they say God demands worship? I didn’t find scripture that demands us to worship God.


"I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no gods before me"

It is clearly commanding believers to not worship any deities aside or before God.

That is Allah, your Lord; there is no God except Him, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He is Disposer of all things.”-(Quran 6:102)

“Indeed, I am Allah. There is no God except Me, so worship Me and establish prayer for My remembrance.”-(Quran 20:14)
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Your ^ above ^ post reminds me that during the times of judges in ancient Israel the people wanted a king (authority figure) and God listened to the people and gave them a king who turned out to be Israel's first king - King Saul.

I think human beings innately appeal to a higher authority, it just so happens that spiritually God is considered the ultimate authority.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
One of the most fundamental questions many of us in private and open have asked and I, myself have asked as well. Why does a deity who created the universe want simple life forms to worship him. My personal answer is I don't know. But if I can create an educated guess, I believe the nature of human psychological evolution is that servitude to something greater is inherent. Humans are social creatures who have developed systems where we've become subservient to leadership from a macro and micro level. In times of crisis most of us unaware in how to deal with tragedy seek leadership or someone that knows something. When we work our 9 to 5 we follow a leader such as a manager or director. Like ants, I believe humans have an inherent sense of social skills where we follow someone who we believe has greater knowledge. Assuming God is real I firmly believe the psychological evolution of humans is that humanity is meant to follow "something" whether you call it God, Allah, Tuhan, something greater than ourselves much like the tribal relationships we have.

What are your thoughts?
I can only speak from a Christian viewpoint, so here's the deal with Christian worship and why God desires it from us.

First of all, for the Christian, God is love, and love is a way of being with others. God is expressed in community -- the Trinity. God created humanity in God's image -- that is, as self-expressed only as we relate to others (it's not good for the man to be alone...).

The goal of worship is transformation. In worship, we want to open ourselves to having God create with us through the acts we plan and carry out. The word "worship" comes from two Anglo-Saxon root words, the second meaning "shape" and the first from the word warden, meaning, "to become." So worship is a shape of events in which we become something. Further, in worship, we become co-creators with God. The Greek word for worship in the bible is leiturgia, also from two roots, laos and ergon. Laos means "people" and ergon means "work." So leiturgia, or liturgy, is "the work of the people." In worship, we co-create along with God.

This co-creative process of worship both fosters and demands relationship. We worship in order to be transformed in loving relationship. God desires our worship, so that God can also be in loving relationship with us. It really has nothing to do with obeisance or scraping in supplication. It has nothing to do with blind adoration. It has to do with love, which is, after all, what God is.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
"I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no gods before me"

It is clearly commanding believers to not worship any deities aside or before God...

Yes, not to worship other gods, but Bible don’t seem to have any scripture where God demands us to worship Him.
 

1213

Well-Known Member
What is your take about John 4:23-24 _________________

“But the hour comes, and now is, when the true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such to be his worshippers. God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth."
John 4:23-24

I think that is not really God demanding us to do so.

Interesting thing is also that:

Pure religion [religious worship] and undefiled before our God and Father is this: to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unstained by the world.
James 1:27
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
I can only speak from a Christian viewpoint, so here's the deal with Christian worship and why God desires it from us.

First of all, for the Christian, God is love, and love is a way of being with others. God is expressed in community -- the Trinity. God created humanity in God's image -- that is, as self-expressed only as we relate to others (it's not good for the man to be alone...).

The goal of worship is transformation. In worship, we want to open ourselves to having God create with us through the acts we plan and carry out. The word "worship" comes from two Anglo-Saxon root words, the second meaning "shape" and the first from the word warden, meaning, "to become." So worship is a shape of events in which we become something. Further, in worship, we become co-creators with God. The Greek word for worship in the bible is leiturgia, also from two roots, laos and ergon. Laos means "people" and ergon means "work." So leiturgia, or liturgy, is "the work of the people." In worship, we co-create along with God.

This co-creative process of worship both fosters and demands relationship. We worship in order to be transformed in loving relationship. God desires our worship, so that God can also be in loving relationship with us. It really has nothing to do with obeisance or scraping in supplication. It has nothing to do with blind adoration. It has to do with love, which is, after all, what God is.

Very interesting perspective. Thank you
 

Epic Beard Man

Bearded Philosopher
Yes, not to worship other gods, but Bible don’t seem to have any scripture where God demands us to worship Him.

Apparently you disregarded the Quranic verse but what about what Jesus said to Satan

Matthew 4:10 – Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “ ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’ ”

Jesus himself even recited the Sh'ma which states that the greatest COMMANDMENT is the belief that God is one, and to love God with all your heart and soul.

Chronicles 16:29 states:

"Ascribe to the Lord the glory due his name; bring an offering and come before him. Worship the Lord in the splendor of his holiness.
 
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