Why does God want humans to worship him?

[gnostic]

Because that is what bicameral men are able to understand. They need constant fear to remember instructions, e.g. the Golden Calf story. Stories of wrath are there so the future generations would fear until bicameral to introspective conversion have finished, even now.

But to "punish" anyone who worship other deities, does mean God want worship. Why else would God want to include to worship him alone in the Ten Commandments, if he didn't want worshippers?

 

[gnostic]

For any deity to be worshipped before all others, only demonstrate that god to be egotistic.

To threaten anyone who don't worship him or to worship some other deities, only demonstrate that god to be a tyrant.

Using fear as tactics, is using the same tactics as that of autocratic despot or dictator or terrorist.

Neither are the traits or characteristics of being worthy of worship.l

 

[leov]

But to "punish" anyone who worship other deities, does mean God want worship. Why else would God want to include to worship him alone in the Ten Commandments, if he didn't want worshippers?

It is universal plan to change consciousness of the world. Instructions like the Golden Rule came from ONE source. Any input from another source, say human sacrifice to Moloch, was not helpful. Following instructions required fear or respect of the Giver of Instructions otherwise it would not work. Higher consciousness does not require instructions in the book.

 

[leov]

For any deity to be worshipped before all others, only demonstrate that god to be egotistic.

To threaten anyone who don't worship him or to worship some other deities, only demonstrate that god to be a tyrant.

Using fear as tactics, is using the same tactics as that of autocratic despot or dictator or terrorist.

Neither are the traits or characteristics of being worthy of worship.l

First assurance that people are capable understanding of this is needed.

 

[Road Less Traveled]

It is universal plan to change consciousness of the world.

Or a universal plan to control consciousness of the world.

Following instructions required fear or respect of the Giver of Instructions otherwise it would not work.

Following instructions that require fear and respect of the giver of instructions otherwise the universal plan to control consciousness would not work.

 

[leov]

Or a universal plan to control consciousness of the world.



Following instructions that require fear and respect of the giver of instructions otherwise the universal plan to control consciousness would not work.

It works. Only few still have Cain type of consciousness.

 

[Road Less Traveled]

Instructions like the Golden Rule came from ONE source. Any input from another source, say human sacrifice to Moloch, was not helpful.

Instructions like the golden rule could have come from an entire different source as opposed from a source using fear.

A source that insists that they are the only god and using fear would probably not want anyone to look for a better source that is not of fear and perhaps the golden rule.

 

[leov]

Instructions like the golden rule could have come from an entire different source as opposed from a source using fear.

A source that insists that they are the only god and using fear would probably not want anyone to look for a better source that is not of fear and perhaps the golden rule.

Demiurge story? I think Valentinian version of Demiurge fits OT. I see D. like emanation of true God to deal with bicameral consciousness.

 

[Road Less Traveled]

Demiurge story? I think Valentinian version of Demiurge fits OT. I see D. like emanation of true God to deal with bicameral consciousness.

It’s sounds like you’re presenting 2 very distinct programmers/coders of instruction.

One source creates and programs humans with the fear gene, the worship it gene, the needy gene, the dependent gene, the subservience to authority gene, the validation gene. To fear it, fear for one’s life, fear for reputation, fear for this fear for that. Obedient slavery.

While another source is not of fear, presents a golden rule, offers an escape from all of the above.

 

[Shad]

One of the most fundamental questions many of us in private and open have asked and I, myself have asked as well. Why does a deity who created the universe want simple life forms to worship him. My personal answer is I don't know. But if I can create an educated guess, I believe the nature of human psychological evolution is that servitude to something greater is inherent. Humans are social creatures who have developed systems where we've become subservient to leadership from a macro and micro level. In times of crisis most of us unaware in how to deal with tragedy seek leadership or someone that knows something. When we work our 9 to 5 we follow a leader such as a manager or director. Like ants, I believe humans have an inherent sense of social skills where we follow someone who we believe has greater knowledge. Assuming God is real I firmly believe the psychological evolution of humans is that humanity is meant to follow "something" whether you call it God, Allah, Tuhan, something greater than ourselves much like the tribal relationships we have.

What are your thoughts?

God needs worship and donations. The Priests told me so. Ergo the idea of requiring worship is the creation of the religious class as they would need a different career path if they were paid to babble about God. They tell you how to worship, what to say, what to do, etc.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Instructions like the golden rule could have come from an entire different source as opposed from a source using fear.
A source that insists that they are the only god and using fear would probably not want anyone to look for a better source that is not of fear and perhaps the golden rule.

I find the Golden Rule comes from the Constitution of the Mosaic Law as found at Leviticus 19:18
Fear of God is a reverential fear as a loving child would fear displeasing a loving parent.
Jesus had such loving-reverential fear of displeasing his Father.
Jesus enlarged upon the Golden Rule with his New Commandment as found at John 13:34-35.
Jesus had self-sacrificing love for others.
So, we are now to love others even 'MORE' than self.

 

[Rise]

A Biblical definition of worship essentially means recognizing and dwelling on the goodness of God's character and His actions.

Doing that is part of being free from sin and death. Because you cannot put faith in God if you don't first trust He is good.
Worship is merely an expression of that truth by you.

A Biblical case can also be made that it is through that process of worship that we become more like God, freed from the effects of sin in this life.
Conversely, worshipping demons would have the opposite effect on you.

Given that reality, the God of the Bible wants you to worship truth (He is truth) for the sake of your salvation from sin and to have an abiding relationship with God (which was your created purpose). As opposed to being separated from God through sin for eternity.

To put it simply: God wants you to worship Him, rather than demons, because He loves you and therefore wants what is best for you.

But understanding why the two are linked first requires a Bible based understanding of what worship really is and what it means for your salvation.

Many today have a wrong interpretation of God's command to worship Him alone. They think it must be for some unrighteous motivation like selfish vanity. The reality is He says it for our sake, for our benefit, so we will be protected from sin and death.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But to "punish" anyone who worship other deities, does mean God want worship. Why else would God want to include to worship him alone in the Ten Commandments, if he didn't want worshippers?

Yup. By demanding the deaths of those who worship other gods, Jehovah makes it pretty clear he doesn't just want worshiped, he wants exclusive rights to it.

 

[Road Less Traveled]

Fear of God is a reverential fear as a loving child would fear displeasing a loving parent.
Jesus had such loving-reverential fear of displeasing his Father.

Not looking to get into a bible debate, yet I doubt that there is anywhere that Jesus had fear or had fear of displeasing his ‘Father.’
1 John 4:18 would go against that as well.

I find the Golden Rule comes from the Constitution of the Mosaic Law as found at Leviticus 19:18

‘Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.’

All I see in that is only being loving to only your own group of people. Anyone can see in a lot of Leviticus how nasty it can be to other groups of people such as: Leviticus 21:18-20.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

I’m not entirely clear on what you are saying here.

I don't know how clear I can be...Human beings are social creatures. We develop a hierarchal order which means we have naturally appealed to someone of a higher authority. Tribes for instance have chiefs so what I'm saying is that naturally humans have always an affinity to appealing to an authority figure.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Yup. By demanding the deaths of those who worship other gods, Jehovah makes it pretty clear he doesn't just want worshiped, he wants exclusive rights to it.

But maybe human interpretation of "what God wants" was wrong.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

The divine Beloved is always with you, in you and around you. Know that you are not separate from Him."

“And indeed We have created man, and We know whatever thoughts his inner self develops, and We are closer to him than (his) jugular vein.” (Quran 50:16).

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Bible says:

The God who made the world and all things in it, he, being Lord of heaven and earth, doesn't dwell in temples made with hands, neither is he served by men's hands, as though he needed anything, seeing he himself gives to all life and breath, and all things.
Acts 17:24-25

I have no reason to think God needs our “worship”.

(See Ten Commandments)

 

[Shadow Wolf]

But maybe human interpretation of "what God wants" was wrong.

No doubt. If there is something that is "god," how could we ever hope to understand it? We really don't even understand ourselves or our own species that well, over all. We're pretty well confused about understanding those who aren't human but share the Earth with us. A god being? IMO, it's like trying to run a marathon before we can even crawl.

 

[We Never Know]

One of the most fundamental questions many of us in private and open have asked and I, myself have asked as well. Why does a deity who created the universe want simple life forms to worship him. My personal answer is I don't know. But if I can create an educated guess, I believe the nature of human psychological evolution is that servitude to something greater is inherent. Humans are social creatures who have developed systems where we've become subservient to leadership from a macro and micro level. In times of crisis most of us unaware in how to deal with tragedy seek leadership or someone that knows something. When we work our 9 to 5 we follow a leader such as a manager or director. Like ants, I believe humans have an inherent sense of social skills where we follow someone who we believe has greater knowledge. Assuming God is real I firmly believe the psychological evolution of humans is that humanity is meant to follow "something" whether you call it God, Allah, Tuhan, something greater than ourselves much like the tribal relationships we have.

What are your thoughts?

Why do kings and queens want others to worship them?