Avril Lavigne's best song

[PoetPhilosopher]

This song is as NSFW as a Skwim thread and different than Avril's average, PG song for sure, it stars Marilyn Manson if that says anything:

Spoiler: NSFW!!

 

[PureX]

Lame ... not her best effort, that's for sure.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Lame ... not her best effort, that's for sure.

Eh it shows obvious growth over her song Sk8er Boi. The world can't be all love and flowers.

 

[PureX]

Eh it shows obvious growth over her song Sk8er Boi. The world can't be all love and flowers.

Pop music is already drowning in "strutting sluts", and has been since Madonna. (They were around before her, but she made it 'vogue', again.) It's the absolute wrong direction for A.L. to be going if she wants to be an artist instead of just another pop-schlock bimbo. (That should have been a David Bowie song: "Pop Schlock Bimbo") But maybe she had some bills that needed to be paid. Who knows.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Pop music is already drowning in "strutting sluts", and has been since Madonna. (They were around before her, but she made it 'vogue', again.) It's the absolute wrong direction for A.L. to be going if she wants to be an artist instead of just another pop-schlock bimbo. (That should have been a David Bowie song: "Pop Schlock Bimbo") But maybe she had some bills that needed to be paid. Who knows.

So good music artists are those which appeal to an understanding of music that doesn't cater to what people want to hear and vote on with their pocketbooks - got it.

 

[PureX]

So good music artists are those which appeal to an understanding of music that doesn't cater to what people want to hear and vote on with their pocketbooks - got it.

Music is music, and art is art. Music is a medium, while art is an endeavor. Art may or may not appeal to the masses; usually it does not, but whether it does or not, that is not it's purpose. A.L. needs to decide if she wants to be an artist, or a 'pop star'. I'm not saying she can't be both, but that is extremely rare, and very difficult to pull off. And in the end, I think all it does is confuse people.

Think Andy Warhol.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

Music is music, and art is art. Music is a medium, while art is an endeavor. Art may or may not appeal to the masses; usually it does not, but whether it does or not, that is not it's purpose. A.L. needs to decide if she wants to be an artist, or a 'pop star'. I'm not saying she can't be both, but that is extremely rare, and very difficult to pull off. And in the end, I think all it does is confuse people.

Think Andy Warhol.

Art has objective qualities (like what works best in the theories behind art, such as lighting, etc), but is overall subjective and requires Group-Think to become popular.

 

[PureX]

Art has objective qualities (like what works best in the theories behind art, such as lighting, etc), but is overall subjective and requires Group-Think to become popular.

Yes, popularity is an odd phenomenon. And it's often counter-productive to the art endeavor, which seeks universality over popularity.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I can't stand that song. It's awful and very creepy, not sexy as it tries so hard to be. She's sucked since she sold out and became an airhead after her second album. I could've seen her becoming the next Alanis because of how good and mature she was on her second album, but no.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Music is music, and art is art. Music is a medium, while art is an endeavor. Art may or may not appeal to the masses; usually it does not, but whether it does or not, that is not it's purpose. A.L. needs to decide if she wants to be an artist, or a 'pop star'. I'm not saying she can't be both, but that is extremely rare, and very difficult to pull off. And in the end, I think all it does is confuse people.

Think Andy Warhol.

Lady Gaga manages pretty well at both. It is rare, I'll admit.

 

[PoetPhilosopher]

I can't stand that song. It's awful and very creepy, not sexy as it tries so hard to be. She's sucked since she sold out and became an airhead after her second album. I could've seen her becoming the next Alanis because of how good and mature she was on her second album, but no.

I find the right amount of creepy to be sexy. Guess it's just me who likes the song, lol.

 

[Ellen Brown]

I was listening to her when she first started and loved her singing.

 

[PureX]

Lady Gaga manages pretty well at both. It is rare, I'll admit.

She does. And she is exceptional.