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Tommy Robinson arrested

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
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ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
@Notanumber !!! This is hilarious, and it says so much about your openness and honesty.

Blocking comment on your profile is not an excuse to misuse the rating system and get away with it.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
You happen to know the percentage that are raped by Christians?
If many is also hundreds than it's good to mention this
Because the issue seems to be numbers here, not rape

As far as i am concerned its 100%

However rape crisis england and wales released this.
  • 20% of women and 4% of men have experienced some type of sexual assault since the age of 16, equivalent to 3.4 million female and 631,000 male victims

How many perpetrators are christians, i really dont know, going percentage of population over 50% will be christians
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
Why not capitalize him "God Tommy"?

Why, i dont capitalise any god unless the word happens to be first word in a sentence. I have enough trouble just writing, no need for me to complicate matters, particularly over a hypocrite like him
 

Shad

Veteran Member
What do you mean with "native ethnic Brits" here?

Ethnic groups which have been in Britain (Islands)for centuries. Welsh, Scot, Anglo-Saxon, Norman, etc. Point was there were grooming gang cases which didn't involve immigrants or decedents of Pakistan immigrants. A few case involved schools such as a boarding school. IE Grooming gangs are not isolated to specific ethnic groups.

I just read "5 men from the town" meaning they could have any nationality, or does "town" imply "native"?

Clarify what you read? Is this to me or is my ignore list pulling a number on me? (happens at times)

Make sure you click the linked report in the article. The "five men from town" isn't in the report.
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
Thanks very much for this: exactly the sort of report I was looking for.

So indeed, it is over a thousand cases of abuse, if not "thousands" of "rapes", much worse than I had thought.

There is a linked report within the article that is over 100 pages long going into a lot of detail. Take a look it the report if you get the chance if you haven't already. It covers reports regarding various groups not just immigrant groups.
 
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stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
It is an estimate of just one case. There are around a dozen cases or more that in progress or complete outside of the linked case. Not all of these cases are isolated an ethnic group from Asia but a majority are. About 4 or 5 cases are about native ethnic Brits.The report also highlights how the charges of racism by fools has cowed government officials
'1,400 children abused' in Rotherham

I just read "5 men from the town" meaning they could have any nationality, or does "town" imply "native"?

Clarify what you read? Is this to me or is my ignore list pulling a number on me?
Make sure you click the linked report in the article. The "five men from town" isn't in the report.
You mentioned "About 4 or 5 cases are about native ethnic Brits" then you gave the link; so I thought you got this info from your link.
Reading the whole article in your link, I could not find what you mentioned, but instead did find "5 men from the town" (quote below).
Maybe you read that info elsewhere, I thought it was about your article.

Quote from your article:
Five men from the town were jailed for sexual offences against girls in 2010, but the report said police "regarded many child victims with contempt".

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Shad

Veteran Member
Thanks for sharing this article. Seems Tommy was right after all. Even the numbers were correct.

In part. The 1400 reports are not all rape nor even covered by laws thus not all cases could get to court.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
You mentioned "About 4 or 5 cases are about native ethnic Brits" then you gave the link; so I thought you got this info from your link.

Look at the linked report in the article

Reading the whole article in your link, I could not find what you mentioned, but instead did find "5 men from the town" (quote below).
Hence my question.

As I said this isn't in the report itself. It is a reporter paraphrasing without providing context. There are 3 uses of "Five men" One is about Operation Central. The 2nd stated they (attackers) were Pakistani decent regarding a 2010 trial. The 2nd could be a repeat of the 2010 Operation Central trial. It isn't specific with a citation. The 3rd was the Derby gang rape trial which seems to be Greek (4) and Polish (1) men as per the translators request and assistance.

Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal - Wikipedia
" In Rotherham, the majority of known perpetrators were of Pakistani heritage including the five men convicted in 2010"
Gang rape trial: 'Every time I looked up there was a different face'


Quote from your article:

Again read the report not the article.

Contempt was about how the police acted.

Report itself

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham (1997 – 2013) | Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council
 
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Shad

Veteran Member
You happen to know the percentage that are raped by Christians?
If many is also hundreds than it's good to mention this
Because the issue seems to be numbers here, not rape

If you look at the report I linked for Rotherham "White males" (notice how people are not cowed by racism charges) are still the majority of offenders overall (As in covering decades). The issue the report highlights part of the problem is within the community. More so those speaking out within the community were sidelined by officials especially when members of the community (women) reported abuse/rape.

" Representatives of women's groups were frustrated that interpretations of the Borough's problems with CSE were often based on an assumption that similar abuse did not take place in their own community and therefore concentrated mainly on young white girls."
 

stvdv

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As I said this isn't in the report itself. It is a reporter paraphrasing without providing context. There are 3 uses of "Five men" One is about Operation Central. The 2nd stated they (attackers) were Pakistani decent regarding a 2010 trial. The 2nd could be a repeat of the 2010 Operation Central trial. It isn't specific with a citation. The 3rd was the Derby gang rape trial which seems to be Greek (4) and Polish (1) men as per the translators request and assistance.
Thanks. I did read big part of this .pdf file. I saw the part mentioning that "overall in England it's the white raping most" ... except in Rotherham
5.5 In this part of the report, we have not specified the ethnicity of the victims or the perpetrators. In a large number of the historic cases in particular, most of the victims in the cases we sampled were white British children, and the majority of the perpetrators were from minority ethnic communities. They were described generically in the files as ‘Asian males’ without precise reference being made to their ethnicity.

11.2 As has been stated many times before, there is no simple link between race and child sexual exploitation, and across the UK the greatest numbers of perpetrators of CSE are white men. The second largest category, according to the Children's Commissioner's report, are those from a minority ethnic background, particularly those recorded as 'Asian'.
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In Rotherham, the majority of known perpetrators were of Pakistani heritage including the five men convicted in 2010. The file reading carried
out by the Inquiry also confirmed that the ethnic origin of many perpetrators was ‘Asian’. In one major case in the mid-2000s, the convicted perpetrator was Afghan. Latterly, some child victims of CSE and some perpetrators had originated from the Roma Slovak community, with a steady increase in the number of child protection cases involving Roma children, though mainly in the category of neglect. Work with Roma families was one of the six priorities of the Child Sexual Exploitation sub-group of the Safeguarding Board in 2012. The Roma population in Rotherham was proportionately much larger than in bigger areas such as Bradford and Manchester.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Thanks. I did read big part of this .pdf file. I saw the part mentioning that "overall in England it's the white raping most" ... except in Rotherham

I think the exception is limited to the reports dates of 1997 to 2013 in Rotherham. It wouldn't surprise me if the dates were broader say like 1913 to 2013 the majority would be white males due to demographic dominance. Dominance which still exists in the modern demographics. The report really highlights how badly government messed up with it's concerns of being PC and mixed messages from bureaucrats at the top.

Do note how the report change race from ethnic group. An ethnic group can promote stupid ideas while a race does not. Bait and switch by government, again.
 

stvdv

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If you look at the report I linked for Rotherham "White males" (notice how people are not cowed by racism charges) are still the majority of offenders overall (As in covering decades). The issue the report highlights part of the problem is within the community. More so those speaking out within the community were sidelined by officials especially when members of the community (women) reported abuse/rape.

" Representatives of women's groups were frustrated that interpretations of the Borough's problems with CSE were often based on an assumption that similar abuse did not take place in their own community and therefore concentrated mainly on young white girls."
Makes sense that overall "white males" are raping most. Because most people living in England are "white"

Horrible what goes on there. so many people involved in this. Makes me wonder. I met a woman from England few weeks back she had been raped for over a decade over there. Even the mayor and police were having sex with her, so she could not even go to the police. Hence I know that this is reality what is happening over there. And it is much worse than what we read on the internet. But also here in Holland we have bad stories about child abuse.

Good you showed this article and showed that it is mostly done by "white men". But also lots of Asian men. I hope they can solve this horror.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Makes sense that overall "white males" are raping most. Because most people living in England are "white"

Yup. In Rotherham it is well over 70% white.

Horrible what goes on there. so many people involved in this. Makes me wonder. I met a woman from England few weeks back she had been raped for over a decade over there. Even the mayor and police were having sex with her, so she could not even go to the police. Hence I know that this is reality what is happening over there. And it is much worse than what we read on the internet. But also here in Holland we have bad stories about child abuse.

Power corrupts while a lot of standards for police are very very low.

Good you showed this article and showed that it is mostly done by "white men". But also lots of Asian men. I hope they can solve this horror.

The report is really focused on government mishandling and reform to prevent the same issue again. A breakdown of community outreach as well.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
elizabeth tudor 1 hour ago

In Russia journalists DO NOT get locked up for reporting on MUSLIM RAPE GANGS. Actually Tommy is the first man anywhere in the history of the world to get locked up for exposing and reporting on MUSLIM RAPE GANGS!!!

 

Notanumber

A Free Man
A series of crimes so shocking, so abhorrent, Maggie Oliver had to speak out - doing so would cost her job and even risked a prison sentence. For decades vulnerable children, as young as 13, were being sexually abused and groomed by gangs of Asian men in Rochdale. After Detective Constable Maggie Oliver discovered dozens of cases of alleged abuse, she felt like a lonely voice calling out for people to act. Losing her job and at times her mind, Maggie dared to speak out when others wouldn’t in a bid to fight for justice. Britain's bravest copper Maggie joins us on the sofa. Broadcast on: 11/07/19

 

stvdv

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elizabeth tudor 1 hour ago

In Russia journalists DO NOT get locked up for reporting on MUSLIM RAPE GANGS. Actually Tommy is the first man anywhere in the history of the world to get locked up for exposing and reporting on MUSLIM RAPE GANGS!!!

Beautiful youtube. Thank you.

I just got a thought about all this twisted justice. Why do they put so much media on Tommy Robinson? This sex trafficking involves lots of money and prostitution of the young girls. Maybe some rich politicians have been participating. I just met a woman from England who had been raped for 10 years or more. And even the mayor and police officers raped her. So she could not go to the police even. Educated people also act like animals.

So, knowing now that this is so huge, I think that might be the reason that they make such a huge thing out of Tommy Robinson, so that the focus is not on the politicians involved. We have had a similar thing in Holland in the past. Just a good tactic they use to mask their own wrong doing.

Just a thought I had. Can be wrong. But I can not understand, why they make Tommy Robinson look bad, while the real perpetrators stay free. This is the only reason I can come up with that makes sense of this whole thing. Just politics and politicians trying to save their own neck.

Maybe even the perpetrators have things on film. So that they can blackmail them if they get caught. I mean you see it in movies. Would only be smart of them to use that sick trick. Normally they are so good in catching criminals, just not in this case. Makes me wonder.

But now the ball is rolling. We just have to wait 1 or 2 years more, and we will know the real truth behind all this injustice I think.
 
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Notanumber

A Free Man
Beautiful youtube. Thank you.

I just got a thought about all this twisted justice. Why do they put so much media on Tommy Robinson? This sex trafficking involves lots of money and prostitution of the young girls. Maybe some rich politicians have been participating. I just met a woman from England who had been raped for 10 years or more. And even the mayor and police officers raped her. So she could not go to the police even. Educated people also act like animals.

So, knowing now that this is so huge, I think that might be the reason that they make such a huge thing out of Tommy Robinson, so that the focus is not on the politicians involved. We have had a similar thing in Holland in the past. Just a good tactic they use to mask their own wrong doing.

Just a thought I had. Can be wrong. But I can not understand, why they make Tommy Robinson look bad, while the real perpetrators stay free. This is the only reason I can come up with that makes sense of this whole thing. Just politics and politicians trying to save their own neck.

Maybe even the perpetrators have things on film. So that they can blackmail them if they get caught. I mean you see it in movies. Would only be smart of them to use that sick trick. Normally they are so good in catching criminals, just not in this case. Makes me wonder.

But now the ball is rolling. We just have to wait 1 or 2 years more, and we will know the real truth behind all this injustice I think.

The Muslim Council of Britain has far too much political influence in the United Kingdom.

They will have demanded the persecution of Tommy to deter others from reporting these crimes.
 
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