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Earth and God

Vaziri

Islamic Philosopher
who removed god from the earth?

No one removed God. Pure light source energy isn't something that can be removed. As we play this game in material world with good and evil we remove ourselves from Him. We must raise our vibrational frequency through achieving higher consciousness to remotely experience what God is.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
God is Spirit. By definition God is not present in physical word.
then why did jesus pray in vain, "Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, in earth......."?


also why would james say faith without work is dead?

or jesus talk about behaviors; if god isn't active in the world.


isn't action a physical thing?

isn't love a thing we recognize by it's action, by their deeds, fruits we know them, the godly?
 
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Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
No one removed God. Pure light source energy isn't something that can be removed. As we play this game in material world with good and evil we remove ourselves from Him. We must raise our vibrational frequency through achieving higher consciousness to remotely experience what God is.

we remove?

please elaborate?
 

leov

Well-Known Member
then why did jesus pray in vain, "Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, in earth......."?
He prayed for spiritual kingdom like in heaven to come to earth, so flesh is no more, e.g human enlightenment. Worship in Spirit.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
He prayed for spiritual kingdom like in heaven to come to earth, so flesh is no more, e.g human enlightenment. Worship in Spirit.
worshiping in spirit isn't an action, a physical thing?


jesus talked about the flesh, where did he speak of inaction? or as god being impotent?
 

Vaziri

Islamic Philosopher
we remove?

please elaborate?
If we aren't pure light consciousness we are not with Him. In my beliefs we were once at onement with Him and were given the decision to go away. By leaving onement and having our own unique experience of Him we can obtain more knowledge to be even closer.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
worshiping in spirit isn't an action, a physical thing?


jesus talked about the flesh, where did he speak of inaction? or as god being impotent?
worshiping in spirit isn't an action, a physical thing?


jesus talked about the flesh, where did he speak of inaction? or as god being impotent?
It is an action of active communication with spiritual world, being I sort of trance. Out of your physical body, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.”
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
If we aren't pure light consciousness we are not with Him. In my beliefs we were once at onement with Him and were given the decision to go away. By leaving onement and having our own unique experience of Him we can obtain more knowledge to be even closer.
u're using a very similar term that we know as at-one-ment?
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
It is an action of active communication with spiritual world, being I sort of trance. Out of your physical body, “Before Philip called you, when you were under the fig tree, I saw you.”
consciousness, the spirit, can travel in two direction, involution and evolution.


again how is this not a physical thing?

isn't your body the temple of the Spirit? doesn't that spirit dwell in the earth? aren't you equating forms, flesh and actions as the same thing?
 

leov

Well-Known Member
consciousness can travel in two direction, involution and evolution
Correct. You suppose to learn to control its direction. 14"But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil."
 

viole

Ontological Naturalist
Premium Member
then why did jesus pray in vain, "Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, in earth......."?

It is not in vain, it is tautological. Can you imagine a not schizophrenic omnipotent being who cannot manage His will to be implemented?

It is like asking: oh please, please God, make it so that 2+2=4.

Ciao

- viole
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Correct. You suppose to learn to control its direction. 14"But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil."
you spirit, mental, is your actuator.


so again is god impotent? incapable of action? incapable of being physical?
 
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