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Islam and Judaism are refuted.

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calm

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In 1947 the Isaiah scroll was found in the Dead Sea, one found out that it was written in the 2nd century B.C. and therefore it is the oldest preserved manuscript of a whole book of the Bible. It was also found that the found Isaiah scroll is completely identical with the book of Isaiah in the Bible. This proves firstly that at least the book of Isaiah was not falsified, secondly that Jesus is the true God and the Father of eternity(Isaiah 9:6) and thirdly that Jesus was executed to die for the sins of mankind(Isaiah 53).

1947 was the year in which the Islam and the Judaism were refuted.

Here can you read the Isaiah scroll
 
rocala

rocala

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calm said:
It was also found that the found Isaiah scroll is completely identical with the book of Isaiah in the Bible.
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However, from the link you provided

"At the same time, however, the two thousand year old scroll contains alternative spellings, scribal errors, corrections, and most fundamentally, many variant readings. Strictly speaking, the number of textual variants is well over 2,600, ranging from a single letter, sometimes one or more words, to complete variant verse or verses".
 
sooda

sooda

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calm said:
In 1947 the Isaiah scroll was found in the Dead Sea, one found out that it was written in the 2nd century B.C. and therefore it is the oldest preserved manuscript of a whole book of the Bible. It was also found that the found Isaiah scroll is completely identical with the book of Isaiah in the Bible. This proves firstly that at least the book of Isaiah was not falsified, secondly that Jesus is the true God and the Father of eternity(Isaiah 9:6) and thirdly that Jesus was executed to die for the sins of mankind(Isaiah 53).

1947 was the year in which the Islam and the Judaism were refuted.

Here can you read the Isaiah scroll
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The Book of Isaiah, as it now appears in our Old Testament, contains far more than can be attributed to the prophet. As a whole, the book is a rather large collection of writings that were produced by a number of different authors, some of whom were separated by relatively long periods of time.

Isaiah
 
danieldemol

danieldemol

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calm said:
In 1947 the Isaiah scroll was found in the Dead Sea, one found out that it was written in the 2nd century B.C. and therefore it is the oldest preserved manuscript of a whole book of the Bible. It was also found that the found Isaiah scroll is completely identical with the book of Isaiah in the Bible. This proves firstly that at least the book of Isaiah was not falsified, secondly that Jesus is the true God and the Father of eternity(Isaiah9:6)
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First of all it doesn’t fit Jesus because the government did not rest on His shoulder.
Secondly even if a book calls somone God that doesn’t make the book true. After all there are mythological books calling Zues and many others God.

The title of this thread should really read Christianity refuted as well.
 
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calm

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rocala said:
However, from the link you provided

"At the same time, however, the two thousand year old scroll contains alternative spellings, scribal errors, corrections, and most fundamentally, many variant readings. Strictly speaking, the number of textual variants is well over 2,600, ranging from a single letter, sometimes one or more words, to complete variant verse or verses".
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From the link:
"The text of the Great Isaiah Scroll generally conforms to the Masoretic or traditional version codified in medieval codices (all 66 chapters of the Hebrew version, in the same conventional order). reflected in the Great Isaiah Scroll."

What you mean are little things. Besides, Isaiah 53 and Isaiah 9:6 are completely identical with the Isaiah scroll. You are welcome to check it.
 
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calm

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rocala said:
What I mean? All I did was quote from the link that you provided.
You messed up, we all do sometimes, getting personal is not an appropriate response.
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They are small things that differ, some sentences are not present and with other sentences the spelling is different but in sense they are identical. And as I said, Isaiah 53 and Isaiah 9:6 are not only identical in meaning but also in structure to the Isaiah scroll.
 
Neutral Name

Neutral Name

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calm said:
In 1947 the Isaiah scroll was found in the Dead Sea, one found out that it was written in the 2nd century B.C. and therefore it is the oldest preserved manuscript of a whole book of the Bible. It was also found that the found Isaiah scroll is completely identical with the book of Isaiah in the Bible. This proves firstly that at least the book of Isaiah was not falsified, secondly that Jesus is the true God and the Father of eternity(Isaiah 9:6) and thirdly that Jesus was executed to die for the sins of mankind(Isaiah 53).

1947 was the year in which the Islam and the Judaism were refuted.

Here can you read the Isaiah scroll
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Can I just say that Jesus was a Jew. If you refute Judaism, you are refuting Jesus because he could not be the prophesied Messiah of the Old Testament which is what makes him the savior.
 
sooda

sooda

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Diana Montgomery said:
Can I just say that Jesus was a Jew. If you refute Judaism, you are refuting Jesus because he could not be the prophesied Messiah of the Old Testament which is what makes him the savior.
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The Tablets from Ugarit : Center for Online Judaic Studies
cojs.org/the_tablets_from_ugarit_and_their_importance_for_biblical_studies-_peter_c...
Jun 01, 2008 · The Tablets from Ugarit and Their Importance for Biblical Studies, Peter C. Craigie, BAR 9:05, Sep-Oct 1983. For 40 years Claude Schaeffer directed excavations at Ras Shamra in Syria. There he and his colleagues uncovered the remains of the long lost city of Ugarit, a Late Bronze Age metropolis in early Biblical times.
 
TransmutingSoul

TransmutingSoul

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calm said:
In 1947 the Isaiah scroll was found in the Dead Sea, one found out that it was written in the 2nd century B.C. and therefore it is the oldest preserved manuscript of a whole book of the Bible. It was also found that the found Isaiah scroll is completely identical with the book of Isaiah in the Bible. This proves firstly that at least the book of Isaiah was not falsified, secondly that Jesus is the true God and the Father of eternity(Isaiah 9:6) and thirdly that Jesus was executed to die for the sins of mankind(Isaiah 53).

1947 was the year in which the Islam and the Judaism were refuted.

Here can you read the Isaiah scroll
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Isaiah 9:6 is direct reference to Baha'u'llah :) (Glory of God).

Baha'u'llah has comfirmed all these scriptures are from G_d.

Regards Tony
 
Kangaroo Feathers

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Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
calm said:
In 1947 the Isaiah scroll was found in the Dead Sea, one found out that it was written in the 2nd century B.C. and therefore it is the oldest preserved manuscript of a whole book of the Bible. It was also found that the found Isaiah scroll is completely identical with the book of Isaiah in the Bible. This proves firstly that at least the book of Isaiah was not falsified, secondly that Jesus is the true God and the Father of eternity(Isaiah 9:6) and thirdly that Jesus was executed to die for the sins of mankind(Isaiah 53).

1947 was the year in which the Islam and the Judaism were refuted.

Here can you read the Isaiah scroll
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Seems an exceptionally confirmation bias driven, cherry picked reading.
 
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