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Oh, that poor "deprived" and "abused" Walmart corporation!

Audie

Veteran Member
Your major advantage is attached to your neck. Self righteous zealots acting on emotion have less of a tendency to think. That could be turned into an advantage.

As I have mentioned elsewhere, I have an uncle who was caught up
in the cultural revolution.

Those young men did unspeakable things.

He was so dedicated true believer, he never has
gotten over it.

Too bad I cant get him and the pure philosopher
together, they could denounce capitalist roaders
happily ever after.
 

Dan From Smithville

What's up Doc?
Staff member
Premium Member
As I have mentioned elsewhere, I have an uncle who was caught up
in the cultural revolution.

Those young men did unspeakable things.

He was so dedicated true believer, he never has
gotten over it.

Too bad I cant get him and the pure philosopher
together, they could denounce capitalist roaders
happily ever after.
I am unsure how good it would be for him to talk with someone that has had experience with applications.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Not all of them are the result of capitalism and market economics or easily solved by those conditions either. The problem is partly time. I have read arguments that market economics would have eventually eliminated racism against black Americans, but it would have been a long time in doing it.
That seems to echo Milton's claim that social/political freedom and market freedom are different sides of the same coin, and that you cant have one without the othet. Asides from numerous examples that suggest otherwise, thats really a dangerous claim because there just dies not seem amy correlation between social freedoms and market freedoms. But we have so many examples where market freedom prevails while social freedom does not (the whole of American history, really). And it gets reinforced by the idea that spending our money is democracy and as much control over things that regular people can have. Again, its a bad idea, and there are numerous examples where the people had to go to the state to restrict damaging aspects of market freedom.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
hat was government, not capitalism
Yes: it is an ezample of how political governance and economic systems are not inherently intwinded. The benefits of one do not necessarily overlap into the other. And its why it is the state that allows for communes, as capitalism doesn't grant freedoms beyond market freedoms. There is of course some overlap, but clearly not enough to where we can say the market gives or protects social freedoms.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Once again ultimately it is not Walmart that is the victim of these thefts. They will just raise their prices. The victims are the poor people that do not steal that end up paying for the thefts of others.
I don't think that this is particularly accurate.
Wal-Mart charges as much as they can, profitably. Wal-Mart wouldn't lower it's prices if theft went away, they'd dump their security and keep their same prices, and make a bunch more money than they already do.
Why would they "pass the savings along" if they don't have to?
Tom
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I dont intend this as rude or a put down but-

I kind of dont think you have real world experience
in investing.

I dont mean mutual funds or bonds.

I mean the people who conceive of a project,
bust their butt working out the thousand details
and get it done!

They wont do that for "equal pay" and nocommittee
of non professional will get it done either.
Teachers also get stuff done, and they do it with less and for less. Doctors get stuff done, they save lives, and yet Wall Street investors often make more. Farmers ust their *** day in and day out, and they are sinking and killing themselves. We'll manage just fine without just as we have done without lords and nobles, just as we also were after we told the church they dont get to run the state or show anymore like they are used to. We'll be just fine without people making tons of money because they enough extra cash to throw around.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I don't think that this is particularly accurate.
Wal-Mart charges as much as they can, profitably. Wal-Mart wouldn't lower it's prices if theft went away, they'd dump their security and keep their same prices, and make a bunch more money than they already do.
Why would they "pass the savings along" if they don't have to?
Tom

Obviously they want to maximize profit, but if they no longer needed security, then why would their competitors? Keeping prices low so that people return is part of their business plan. If security was not an issue their competitors could and would drop prices to try to draw in a larger crowd. What businesses work on is a concept with the acronym ROI, Return On Investment. There is a sweet spot where profit per sale and number of sales cause a maximum profit. That is what all businesses strive for.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Teachers also get stuff done, and they do it with less and for less. Doctors get stuff done, they save lives, and yet Wall Street investors often make more. Farmers ust their *** day in and day out, and they are sinking and killing themselves. We'll manage just fine without just as we have done without lords and nobles, just as we also were after we told the church they dont get to run the state or show anymore like they are used to. We'll be just fine without people making tons of money because they enough extra cash to throw around.

Ok, that is how you see things. It is not realistic
to think some doctors and teachers
will get together to build a hospital or office
building, or an oil tanker,
if that is what you are thimking.

Kings n nobles btw are government, not business.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Yes: it is an ezample of how political governance and economic systems are not inherently intwinded. The benefits of one do not necessarily overlap into the other. And its why it is the state that allows for communes, as capitalism doesn't grant freedoms beyond market freedoms. There is of course some overlap, but clearly not enough to where we can say the market gives or protects social freedoms.
Don’t let tendencies get obscured in the possibilities.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Ok, that is how you see things. It is not realistic
to think some doctors and teachers
will get together to build a hospital or office
building, or an oil tanker,
if that is what you are thimking.

Kings n nobles btw are government, not business.
I didnt say the kings. I said the Nobles and Lords, who were basically nobodies with a fancy title living off the sweat and blood of others. Someone does need to be in charge, but no one is ever as important as they think or claim.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
I didnt say the kings. I said the Nobles and Lords, who were basically nobodies with a fancy title living off the sweat and blood of others. Someone does need to be in charge, but no one is ever as important as they think or claim.

Landlords. They got theirs when Maos
boys and girls took over. Of course, before long
the peasants then got theirs.

Still, sure. Who is not to see the injustice of
hereditary estates, luxury wrung from the sweat
and misery of workers.

Add in the priests while you are about it.
Parasites!

Regardless tho of how inflated or humble the
self inage of say, Edison or Ford, they got industries
going where no committee ever would.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Regardless tho of how inflated or humble the
self inage of say, Edison or Ford, they got industries
going where no committee ever would.
Edison I consider more a thief than anything. A "great inventor" who actually invented little of what bears his name.
Still, sure. Who is not to see the injustice of
hereditary estates, luxury wrung from the sweat
and misery of workers.

Add in the priests while you are about it.
Parasites!
Pretty much. They can work like the rest of us rather than riding waves of wealth passing from one generation to the next or tax exploits.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Edison I consider more a thief than anything. A "great inventor" who actually invented little of what bears his name.

Pretty much. They can work like the rest of us rather than riding waves of wealth passing from one generation to the next or tax exploits.

My family was devastated after the Japanese invaded,
everything destroyed including several dead.

But like HK itself, my family's hard determined
long long hours of work... and look at us now.

( i cant seem to do
much with this tiny tablet, but look up photos of
Hong Kong in 1945 and now.)

I dont guess I'd see the accumulation of
wealth and influence as in any way a bad thing.
It is all at working building Hong Kong.

I will tell you this for sure-the govt could nationalize
everything. It has been done before in divers places.

The businesses are then run into the ground by
greedy corrupt and inept officials, and, the common
people are far worse off than before.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Edison I consider more a thief than anything. A "great inventor" who actually invented little of what bears his name.

Pretty much. They can work like the rest of us rather than riding waves of wealth passing from one generation to the next or tax exploits.
Criticizing Edison is racist now.
 
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