• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Objective truth

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Does deep thought and duration of it lead to objective truth?

Or to reformat the question, is a person often closer to objective truth by age 70 than age 20?

Note I didn't define "how close" they are, I said "closer".
 

sooda

Veteran Member
Does deep thought and duration of it lead to objective truth?

Or to reformat the question, is a person often closer to objective truth by age 70 than age 20?

Note I didn't define "how close" they are, I said "closer".

Depends on the person.
 

SalixIncendium

अग्निविलोवनन्दः
Staff member
Premium Member
Does deep thought and duration of it lead to objective truth?

Or to reformat the question, is a person often closer to objective truth by age 70 than age 20?

Note I didn't define "how close" they are, I said "closer".

By "deep thought," do you mean contemplation? I don't see how chronological age would have anything to do with objective truth, as time spent in contemplation varies from individual to individual.

In my experience, one's ability to manage the ego is directly proportional to how close one comes to objective (unbiased) truth.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
"Objective truth" does not exist except as a shorthand way of saying "inter-sujectively verifiable truths". Now, if we recognize that fact, then it becomes easier to answer the OP.

Deep thought by itself is insufficient to guarantee inter-subjectively verifiable truths. You need "deep thought" plus empirical verification!
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
I have an additional question to introduce to this topic. It's:

What are the pros and cons of believing that the strongest and most adaptable are the survivers in a race?
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Does deep thought and duration of it lead to objective truth?

Or to reformat the question, is a person often closer to objective truth by age 70 than age 20?

Note I didn't define "how close" they are, I said "closer".

The closest I can think of, according to what you are asking. Is that with age you do tend to take a bit more time thinking about your actions before you act on them. Doesn't mean old folks are incapable of knee jerk reactions or that they never make mistakes. Just that with age you tend to think longer, and expand the possible outcomes you don't have the experience to even contemplate when you're younger.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
I have an additional question to introduce to this topic. It's:

What are the pros and cons of believing that the strongest and most adaptable are the survivers in a race?
The pros seem obvious.

One possible con: potential loss of collected wisdom through adaptation resulting in reinventing the wheel?

Edit: also... people are unpredictable. a weak does not mean useless. a weak person can come up with a great idea.

Edit Edit: also, artistic and entertainment qualities is not valued ( now I'm finished :oops::rolleyes: )
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
The closest I can think of, according to what you are asking. Is that with age you do tend to take a bit more time thinking about your actions before you act on them. Doesn't mean old folks are incapable of knee jerk reactions or that they never make mistakes. Just that with age you tend to think longer, and expand the possible outcomes you don't have the experience to even contemplate when you're younger.

Well Enoch, you're a reasonable man. The fact you can't without a doubt say "yes" that it does lead to objective truth, tells me that for most intents, best not to weigh a person's age too much in considering their ideas. One has to weigh them based on other factors.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Well Enoch, you're a reasonable man. The fact you can't without a doubt say "yes" that it does lead to objective truth, tells me that for most intents, best not to weigh a person's age too much in considering their ideas. One has to weigh them based on other factors.

That's true. I mean I've met 70 year olds that are less mature/rational than some 18 year olds I've known. This is a rare and extreme case of course, not something you'll see everyday. But age doesn't bless any wisdom solely on it's own.

A good example is Stan Lees (RIP) daughter. Who is 67 years old. Is a spoiled brat who lived a sheltered life, unable to provide for herself. Leached off her old man until the day he died. Tried using him a few times because he refused to upgrade her from a $10 million mansion to a $20 million mansion.

To gain the wisdom that comes from age you gotta experience some hardship and struggle. Then learn and rise from that hardship with a better understanding of yourself and the world around you.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
Verisimilitude is the closest we can get because we cannot be truly objective unless we are outside this reality.. I suggest reading Popper.
 
Top