Trump says Iran made ‘big mistake’ by taking down US drone

[Cooky]

Oh really, do you want to test that theory by going in yourself?

You mean I would get to push the button that launches the missile?

 

[Revoltingest]

I doubt a single American would die if we went to war with Iran. I don't think we would need to step a single foot on their land.

...We can do it from carriers via the sky.

When have we waged a war which played out so easily?

 

[Cooky]

Where we messed up in Iraq, was when we went in after dropping the bombs.

I say, we just drop bombs and wait and see what happens. If the result is unsatisfactory, then repeat... Over and over until we do see the right results.

 

[Cooky]

When have we waged a war which played out so easily?

Iraq could have been that way... But we went in afterwards -which was the fools errand.

 

[Revoltingest]

Where we messed up in Iraq, was when we went in after dropping the bombs.

I say, we just drop bombs and wait and see what happens. If the result is unsatisfactory, then repeat... Over and over until we donsee the right results.

When have we ever been able to wage a pure air war?

 

[Revoltingest]

Iraq could have been that way...

War does not work that way.
Only so much can be done from the air.
It explains why no war in history has ever been waged solely with air power.

 

[leov]

Here are some problems with that claim....

Trump is facing re-election.
If a spike in pump prices is blamed on him, it weakens him politically.
Doesn't seem like something he'd want.

We still buy oil from other countries.
A price increase would mean a cost increase to the country.
This would increase profits for some, but overall a profit reduction.
Why want this?

Who will know? He is elected by elites not the people. The done it over and over, Bomb Syria oil goes up, sell, sit quiet oil goes down, buy, bomb Syria, argue with Russia, shake fists at Iran oil reacts, sell. It

 

[Stevicus]

Trump trashed the agreement Obama made with the Iranians over developing nuclear power. He's an effing moron. He should have built upon that agreement.. and could have. .. mitigating Iranian support of Hezbollah, HAMAS and al Houthis.

Trump's lack of education and interest in world affairs is a HUGE handicap.

Well, I suppose he must have advisers; at least a few that he hasn't fired or resigned yet. I hope he's not just going off half-cocked on his own here. Or maybe he wants the Iranians think that he's flipped his lid, and that might be enough to get them to back off.

 

[Father Heathen]

I doubt a single American would die if we went to war with Iran. I don't think we would need to step a single foot on their land.

...We can do it from carriers via the sky.

It's still kids killing kids. These bombs would still have deliverers and recipients.

 

[Revoltingest]

Who will know? He is elected by elites not the people.

I hear that a lot.
So I wonder why we waste so much effort counting votes.
Btw, even the elites in his own party opposed him, so clearly
there must be some other mechanism at work here.

The done it over and over, Bomb Syria oil goes up, sell, sit quiet oil goes down, buy, bomb Syria, argue with Russia, shake fists at Iran oil reacts, sell. It

I'm not seeing where Trump or we benefit from what that does to the price of oil.

 

[siti]

Where we messed up in Iraq, was...

...in supporting the Ba'athist regime in Iraq against Iran a decade earlier...and before that in supporting the Shah - including with weapons that were ultimately targetted against the US and her allies...how far do you want to go back?

And going forward...the mistake is in never learning from past mistakes. And you seem to support repeating them - only in a somehow more mindlessly detached manner...hopefully even Trump isn't that daft. I'm sure he isn't - but I have been known to be wrong.

 

[Cooky]

War does not work that way.
Only so much can be done from the air.
It explains why no war in history has ever been waged solely with air power.

Except, we don't really need to win. We just need to destroy their government facilities. Then simply walk away.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's still kids killing kids. These bombs would still have deliverers and recipients.

I'll point out that a great many adults die too.
And then of course, we pay hefty taxes for all that death & destruction.

 

[Revoltingest]

...in supporting the Ba'athist regime in Iraq against Iran a decade earlier...and before that in supporting the Shah - including with weapons that were ultimately targetted against the US and her allies...how far do you want to go back?

And going forward...the mistake is in never learning from past mistakes. And you seem to support repeating them - only in a somehow more mindlessly detached manner...hopefully even Trump isn't that daft. I'm sure he isn't - but I have been known to be wrong.

One thing that history teaches us is that history teaches us nothing.

 

[Revoltingest]

Except, we don't really need to win. We just need to destroy their government facilities. Then simply walk away.

It's that simple, eh.
Do you suppose that it's possible they've anticipated
your tactic, & that they've planned accordingly?
But this raises another issue...
Since we started a war against them, they'd be fully
justified in counter-attacking, including on our own soil.
You want that?

 

[Father Heathen]

Where we messed up in Iraq, was when we went in after dropping the bombs.

I say, we just drop bombs and wait and see what happens. If the result is unsatisfactory, then repeat... Over and over until we do see the right results.

Can you bomb dead civilians back to life? Or repair infrastructure with bombs? Heal psychological trauma with bombs? Enough with these emotionally stunted G.I. Joe/Rambo ego gratification fantasies. This is real life.

 

[leov]

I hear that a lot.
So I wonder why we waste so much effort counting votes.
Btw, even the elites in his own party opposed him, so clearly
there must be some other mechanism at work here.

I'm not seeing where Trump or we benefit from what that does to the price of oil.

We, the people, do not count, they need no benefit, bankers, those who set him on throne benefit, Investors those who know, who knows if his family have oil investments....

 

[Revoltingest]

We, the people, do not count, they need no benefit, bankers, those who set him on throne benefit, Investors those who know, who know if his family have oil investments....

A vast secret conspiracy, eh.
Do you vote?

 

[Stevicus]

One thing that history teaches us is that history teaches us nothing.

Those who fail to remember history are doomed to forget it.

 

[Father Heathen]

I'll point out that a great many adults die too.
And then of course, we pay hefty taxes for all that death & destruction.

My use of "kids" includes those naive, freshly minted recruits who aren't old enough to drink but old enough to be sent out to kill some evil brown people so some rednecks back home can touch themselves at the thought.