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Jesus and the Third Commandment

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
Jewish interpretation of this commandment is taken to mean not taking a vain oath in God's name, thereby bringing disrepute on him.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
did Jesus take the Lord's name in vain?
as if to ask?.....was His ministry for nothing?

and when His people came pointing their fingers.....
any deed done on the Sabbath is wrong

He said unto them …..the Lord is the Lord
even onto the Sabbath
Does not the shepherd free the lamb from thistle?
even on the Sabbath

and He continued healing
any day He chose to
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
I don't think we humans know the Name of God

when Moses did ask...what shall I say as I give this law unto the people?
what name shall I say unto them?

and God answered.....
Tell the people......I AM!
and they with understanding will know whose law this is

it was not a name as such
more a statement of existence
kinda like saying......I AM the First

or saying.....Let there be light

I believe the first pronouncement of existence is known only by God
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
as if to ask?.....was His ministry for nothing?

and when His people came pointing their fingers.....
any deed done on the Sabbath is wrong

He said unto them …..the Lord is the Lord
even onto the Sabbath
Does not the shepherd free the lamb from thistle?
even on the Sabbath

and He continued healing
any day He chose to


but didn't he say go forth immersing in the name of the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit. wasn't he anointing others with that idea of oneness?





70. Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."
 

leov

Well-Known Member
did Jesus take the Lord's name in vain?
Can you give examples? Jesus did not use name but:
3“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. "
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
Can you give examples? Jesus did not use name but:
3“This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. "


it is the name at exodus 3:14 and was required by the prophet, angel, messenger, seer in going forth as stated in exodus 3:15


John 5:43
I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.

John 10:25
Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me,

Revelation 14:1
[ The Lamb and the 144,000 ] Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.
 

leov

Well-Known Member
it is the name at exodus 3:14 and was required by the prophet, angel, messenger, seer in going forth as stated in exodus 3:15


John 5:43
I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.

John 10:25
Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me,

Revelation 14:1
[ The Lamb and the 144,000 ] Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.
In Fathers authority, no specific name, Christ Jesus carried Gnostic/ Hermetic message of the Only True God.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
In Fathers authority, no specific name, Christ Jesus carried Gnostic/ Hermetic message of the Only True God.

john the baptist's baptizing was an outward baptizing. jesus' was a spiritual, inward baptism


Matthew 28:19 [Full Chapter]
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing(immersing) them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,


Matthew 6:9
“This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
 

leov

Well-Known Member
john the baptist's baptizing was an outward baptizing. jesus' was a spiritual, inward baptism


Matthew 28:19 [Full Chapter]
Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing(immersing) them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,


Matthew 6:9
“This, then, is how you should pray: “‘Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name,
John the Baptist was inducing OBE, was making ways straight literally. Baptized person was able to enter spirit world for several seconds.
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
John the Baptist was inducing OBE, was making ways straight literally. Baptized person was able to enter spirit world for several seconds.


water is an element, fire is too. fire is always associated with the mental, spiritual. fire impressed upon water is the beginning of creation.

water cleanses the outside.
fire cleanses everything

john might have helped them with a glimpse of the kingdom
but jesus gave them them the keys to the kingdom


i have the key


Fire and Water are the two purest elements, and the other two elements of Air and Earth are considered to be more material versions of them.
 
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leov

Well-Known Member
water is an element, fire is too. fire is always associated with the mental, spiritual. fire impressed upon water is the beginning of creation.

water cleanses the outside.
fire cleanses everything

john might have helped them with a glimpse of the kingdom
but jesus gave them them the keys to the kingdom


i have the key


Fire and Water are the two purest elements, and the other two elements of Air and Earth are considered to be more material versions of them.
John was not performing another mikva, he was showing people white dove - Spirit. That was metanoia - baptism of repentance shoving the true way.
 

Wandering Monk

Well-Known Member
There is no magic in pronouncing God's name a certain way.

'In the name of...' is just another way of saying 'in the authority of' some party.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
Jesus said, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."
ok....I lean to agree to the quote
 

Fool

ALL in all
Premium Member
There is no magic in pronouncing God's name a certain way.

'In the name of...' is just another way of saying 'in the authority of' some party.
it creates a stabilization between the inner and outer; when understood. it centers everything.

“God is a circle whose center is everywhere and circumference nowhere.”


oneness is experienced
 
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