conservative party accused of 'fundamental' failure" over islamaphobia

[ChristineM]

Islamism may be a difficult choice, but choice it is none the less.

Like christianity? Gotya. The fact that most religions are indicated into young children to scar them for life has little baring on your insistence?

 

[ChristineM]

Preferably a definition that doesn't lump all reasons for disliking a religion or a political force together as irrational? Perhaps because not all reasons for disliking Islam & Islamism are irrational?

None he less, the definition is specific and accurate

Are they not?, can you list one or two "rational" reasons for predudice against islam?

Hint, i can and have argued them with muslims, i have not gone around seething with hatred because of them

 

[ChristineM]

Tell that to children being indoctrinated by their parents. Indoctrination of youth, in my view, one of the only reason religious belief is held by the majority of humanity.

I can only agree with you and am so glad that you included all religious belief and not just islam

 

[Notanumber]

Tell that to children being indoctrinated by their parents. Indoctrination of youth, in my view, one of the only reason religious belief is held by the majority of humanity.

Dangerous as it is to do so, many are leaving Islamism. Therefore, it is a choice.

 

[ChristineM]

You linked it thus accept the definition.



Nope as prejudice is not aimed at an idea (Islam) but at people. Which would make it Muslimphobia



Which is problematic as this become vague or a catch-all. Some uses of Islam in politics are major issues. However there are people that interpret Islam differently to the point of not wanting the religion to be part of the nation-state's government.

I do accept it .you are the one griping about it

Incorrect, the majority of predudice is targeted against islam, .i have seen non muslims attacked because they looked muslim.

Correct, however many muslims consider muslim states to be the islamic ideal.

 

[icehorse]

Have you seen the definition? I posed it yesterday, here it is again

Islamophobia : dislike of or prejudice against Islam or Muslims, especially as a political force.

Yes, the dictionary definition is PC. But it's still a dishonest term, meant to imply that disliking Islam is irrational.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Yes, the dictionary definition is PC. But it's still a dishonest term, meant to imply that disliking Islam is irrational.

Is there something rational about disliking Muslims?

 

[Shad]

I do accept it .you are the one griping about it

Yes as the definition is nonsense.

Incorrect, the majority of predudice is targeted against islam,

Prejudice applies to people not ideas.

.i have seen non muslims attacked because they looked muslim.

Dress, beard or assumption based on skin colour? How does one look Muslim exactly?

Correct, however many muslims consider muslim states to be the islamic ideal.

Sure.

 

[Shad]

Dangerous as it is to do so, many are leaving Islamism. Therefore, it is a choice.

My comment also applies to other religions. Christianity for example.

 

[Shad]

I can only agree with you and am so glad that you included all religious belief and not just islam

Indoctrination is not unique to Islam.

 

[icehorse]

Like christianity? Gotya. The fact that most religions are indicated into young children to scar them for life has little baring on your insistence?

So it seems we're largely agreed - given that, shouldn't we work to break the cycle of religious indoctrination?

 

[icehorse]

Is there something rational about disliking Muslims?

Islam is not the same as Muslims.

 

[The Reverend Bob]

Islam is not the same as Muslims.

So, what don't you like about Islam?

 

[ChristineM]

Yes, the dictionary definition is PC. But it's still a dishonest term, meant to imply that disliking Islam is irrational.

Why is it dishonest when it describes a situation that exists?

It in no way implies irrationality.

 

[ChristineM]

Yes as the definition is nonsense.



Prejudice applies to people not ideas.



Dress, beard or assumption based on skin colour? How does one look Muslim exactly?





Sure.

No it is not nonsense, as mentioned above, it describes a situation that exists.

Does it? So you are not prejudice against the opposing political party to the one you support?

Exactly. How? Only islamophobes can answer that one. They are the ones dishing out hatred.

I am sure glad you agree

 

[ChristineM]

Indoctrination is not unique to Islam.

Correct, and i have never said otherwise

 

[ChristineM]

So it seems we're largely agreed - given that, shouldn't we work to break the cycle of religious indoctrination?

I do on a personal basis,

that does not mean i need a phobia to do it

 

[England my lionheart]

And?

The definition is specific

What more do you want?

The leader of the Muslim council considers what Boris Johnson (yes I know he's a dick) said that "Muslim women that wear the full headress look like letterboxes" as islamophobia,how exactly does that fit the bill,is it a phobia or descrimination?.

Arachnophobia is much clearer,extreme or irrational fear of spiders.

 

[Audie]

Why is it dishonest when it describes a situation that exists?

It in no way implies irrationality.

phobia. an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something.

 

[England my lionheart]

So you think hate speech us free speech?

Do you have a problem with the word "homophobia"?

Only that it's an irrational fear.