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Would you stop believing in God?

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Lets imagine that some aliens entered the solar system, who obviously would be much more technological advanced than us and were currently in orbit around Earth and us being unaware of their intentions.

1. How would that make you feel about God, would it make you feel less "special" as to why these aliens seems to have been created along time before us and that now the whole human race survival depends on these aliens intentions?

2. If it turned out through some advance technology that these aliens were able to speak any Earth language and you asked them about God and they told you that they had never heard or observed anything like that, in their travels around the universe, would that in anyway change your views?

3. Would it surprise you that there are no mentions of aliens in the bible and now they were suddenly here and why God would not have prepared humanity for this encounter?


Wouldn't bug me any, or change my beliefs.

but then, I'm LDS (OK, Mormon) and we are all a bit strange.
 

Jeremiah Ames

Well-Known Member
Lets imagine that some aliens entered the solar system, who obviously would be much more technological advanced than us and were currently in orbit around Earth and us being unaware of their intentions.

1. How would that make you feel about God, would it make you feel less "special" as to why these aliens seems to have been created along time before us and that now the whole human race survival depends on these aliens intentions?

2. If it turned out through some advance technology that these aliens were able to speak any Earth language and you asked them about God and they told you that they had never heard or observed anything like that, in their travels around the universe, would that in anyway change your views?

3. Would it surprise you that there are no mentions of aliens in the bible and now they were suddenly here and why God would not have prepared humanity for this encounter?

I fully believe there are aliens.

However, I think they are generally less advanced than us.

Also, doesn’t make me feel less important. Even if they were vastly more advanced.
I’m just as important as the president of the US and the janitor at Walmart is just as important as I.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Lets imagine that some aliens entered the solar system, who obviously would be much more technological advanced than us and were currently in orbit around Earth and us being unaware of their intentions.

1. How would that make you feel about God, would it make you feel less "special" as to why these aliens seems to have been created along time before us and that now the whole human race survival depends on these aliens intentions?

2. If it turned out through some advance technology that these aliens were able to speak any Earth language and you asked them about God and they told you that they had never heard or observed anything like that, in their travels around the universe, would that in anyway change your views?

3. Would it surprise you that there are no mentions of aliens in the bible and now they were suddenly here and why God would not have prepared humanity for this encounter?

I know God as being our genetic code's Creator. The numeric and semantic message of "037" that's been embedded in our genetic coding by our Creator gets conveyed to me who computes with a base 10 numeric system.

This is evident to me by how each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us present day Earthling human beings with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

The significance of the semantic message "037" embedded in our genetic coding is well-explained in the following journal articles: .
Biosystems Volume 70, Issue 3, August 2003, Pages 187-209 "Arithmetic inside the universal genetic code" Author: Vladimir I. shCherbak
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar...4703000662

NeuroQuantology | December 2011 | Vol 9 | Issue 4 | Page 702-715 Masic, Natasa Nested Properties of shCherbak’s PQ 037 and (Biological) Coding/Computing Nested Numeric/Geometric/Arithmetic Propertiesof shCherbak’s Prime Quantum 037 as a Base of (Biological) Coding/Computing

https://www.researchgate.net/public...m_037_as_a_Base_of_Biological_CodingComputing

God's message of 037 embedded in our genetic code is clear to me We belong with our cosmic ancestors. We are them, we are the aliens.



 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
So if your dad kept from you that your brother is the Joker, you wouldn't be a little shaken?
As an adult, i would understand why my dad kept the information from me as a kid.

In this example, as a kid, i'm still developing.

As an adult i can understand the practical reasons for withholding information that i'm not prepared to handle in a mature manner.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Because that would be some important information to withhold

Unfortunately, many of us Earthlings would rather use advanced extraterrestrial drone technology for military dominance of our world than for peaceful transportation or constructive surveillance purposes.

 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
As an adult, i would understand why my dad kept the information from me as a kid.

In this example, as a kid, i'm still developing.

As an adult i can understand the practical reasons for withholding information that i'm not prepared to handle in a mature manner.
We are not kids.
 

dybmh

דניאל יוסף בן מאיר הירש
But according to the bible, human became like God when they knew good from evil. So at least one would have to say that either God gave it to the aliens or knowing good from evil, is apparently something that can happen through some other natural way. God is everywhere, so Earth should be of no importance, besides of us being here I guess.
Maybe this is helpful?

According to the story in the bible, God created the heavens and the earth. The story continues to describe what happened on earth. What happened in the heavens aren't described.
 

lukethethird

unknown member
Lets imagine that some aliens entered the solar system, who obviously would be much more technological advanced than us and were currently in orbit around Earth and us being unaware of their intentions.

1. How would that make you feel about God, would it make you feel less "special" as to why these aliens seems to have been created along time before us and that now the whole human race survival depends on these aliens intentions?

2. If it turned out through some advance technology that these aliens were able to speak any Earth language and you asked them about God and they told you that they had never heard or observed anything like that, in their travels around the universe, would that in anyway change your views?

3. Would it surprise you that there are no mentions of aliens in the bible and now they were suddenly here and why God would not have prepared humanity for this encounter?
I would have to give The Bible a quick re-read.
 

Alo

New Member
No aliens in The Bible?

Why do people accept Annunakis as being aliens who manipulated our DNA to be real, but doubt that fallen angels came from heaven and changed our DNA?

The Bible and Zechariah Sitchin both agree that the angels or the Annunaki only changed some of our DNA.

Create, means: To make from nothing. An artist can make paint from flowers and charcoal, but he can't create anything.

God created us from nothing.

The people who came from the sky (angels or annunakis) only changed what God created.

Why do people believe we had giant reptiles flying around called dinosaurs, but not believe the people who called them dragons?

I don't see that much difference. I'm hearing the same stories from different people.

Only... God created Adam to till the earth from whence he came, and calls us his children.

The angels wanted our women...

And, the Annunaki manipulated our DNA, to make us their slaves...

Now when I compare what I hear from Zechariah Sitchen on the Annunaki texts, with what The Bible, and The Book of Enoch, say about the fallen angels...

I don't think aliens or any other extraterrestrial creatures showing up with the flying wheels Ezekiel talks about in The Bible, could possibly change my mind.
 

dingdao

The eternal Tao cannot be told - Tao Te Ching
Lets imagine that some aliens entered the solar system, who obviously would be much more technological advanced than us and were currently in orbit around Earth and us being unaware of their intentions.

1. How would that make you feel about God, would it make you feel less "special" as to why these aliens seems to have been created along time before us and that now the whole human race survival depends on these aliens intentions?

2. If it turned out through some advance technology that these aliens were able to speak any Earth language and you asked them about God and they told you that they had never heard or observed anything like that, in their travels around the universe, would that in anyway change your views?

3. Would it surprise you that there are no mentions of aliens in the bible and now they were suddenly here and why God would not have prepared humanity for this encounter?
2 Kings 2:9-12
When they crossed, Elijah said to Elisha, "Tell me what I may do for you, before I am herit a double share of you spirit." He responded, "You have asked a hard thing; yet, if you see me as I am being taken from you, it will be granted you; if not, it will not." As they continued walking and talking, a chariot of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them, and Elijah ascended in a whirlwind into heaven. Elisha kept watching and crying out, "Father, father! The chariots of Isreal and its horsemen!" But when he could no longer see him, he grasped his own clothes and tore them in two pieces.

I didn't know the aliens worked for Travelocity.
 

Katja

Member
Lets imagine that some aliens entered the solar system, who obviously would be much more technological advanced than us and were currently in orbit around Earth and us being unaware of their intentions.

1. How would that make you feel about God, would it make you feel less "special" as to why these aliens seems to have been created along time before us and that now the whole human race survival depends on these aliens intentions?

2. If it turned out through some advance technology that these aliens were able to speak any Earth language and you asked them about God and they told you that they had never heard or observed anything like that, in their travels around the universe, would that in anyway change your views?

3. Would it surprise you that there are no mentions of aliens in the bible and now they were suddenly here and why God would not have prepared humanity for this encounter?

1. Why would I feel less "special"? Do people with siblings feel "less special" because they're not the only one?

2. I assume they would told me what they HAD heard or observed. You mean they hadn't seen other species who believed in a creator-deity, or...?

3. There were no mentions of the internet or cars in the Bible either, so... I guess there are a lot of omissions that would have to bother me first.
 

dianaiad

Well-Known Member
Because that would be some important information to withhold

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I believe that God created the universe. The whole thing. I do NOT think He created all of that just for human beings on a little planet on the outskirts of a minor galaxy. Even my church tells us that God has created many, many 'earths' (planets to you guys). Turns out that what we've been taught for nearly two hundred years (and scoffed at for believing) is dead, bang, right. There ARE lots of planets out there. Probably more than anybody ever imagined, or could imagine. Proves nothing about my beliefs, of course, but it's fun to be proven right about something. ;)

Lots of planets. Life on a bunch of 'em. Probably people (and don't give me any guff about how to define 'people.' If an entity can think, communicate meaningfully and has star travel, s/he/it is most certainly "people," you potential speciesist, you) on a few...and all of 'em sons and daughters of God. If they come to visit us, then....that's nice. Family reunions are usually fun, absent family feuds.

I, for one, would ask....OK, tell us how you got here and can you teach us the laws of physics that you used to do it?

...and I'd try to convert the lot of 'em.

After all, WE knew the possibility of their existences is real. Not that they probably don't have their own connections with Him.
 

The Reverend Bob

Fart Machine and Beastmaster
That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I believe that God created the universe. The whole thing. I do NOT think He created all of that just for human beings on a little planet on the outskirts of a minor galaxy. Even my church tells us that God has created many, many 'earths' (planets to you guys). Turns out that what we've been taught for nearly two hundred years (and scoffed at for believing) is dead, bang, right. There ARE lots of planets out there. Probably more than anybody ever imagined, or could imagine. Proves nothing about my beliefs, of course, but it's fun to be proven right about something. ;)

Lots of planets. Life on a bunch of 'em. Probably people (and don't give me any guff about how to define 'people.' If an entity can think, communicate meaningfully and has star travel, s/he/it is most certainly "people," you potential speciesist, you) on a few...and all of 'em sons and daughters of God. If they come to visit us, then....that's nice. Family reunions are usually fun, absent family feuds.

I, for one, would ask....OK, tell us how you got here and can you teach us the laws of physics that you used to do it?

...and I'd try to convert the lot of 'em.

After all, WE knew the possibility of their existences is real. Not that they probably don't have their own connections with Him.
I know Mormonism teaches stuff like life on other planets but in Evangelical Christianity many teach that humans are the center of the universe and that believing in life on Mars or UFO's is demonic
 

Ancient Soul

The Spiritual Universe
Lets imagine that some aliens entered the solar system, who obviously would be much more technological advanced than us and were currently in orbit around Earth and us being unaware of their intentions.

1. How would that make you feel about God, would it make you feel less "special" as to why these aliens seems to have been created along time before us and that now the whole human race survival depends on these aliens intentions?

2. If it turned out through some advance technology that these aliens were able to speak any Earth language and you asked them about God and they told you that they had never heard or observed anything like that, in their travels around the universe, would that in anyway change your views?

3. Would it surprise you that there are no mentions of aliens in the bible and now they were suddenly here and why God would not have prepared humanity for this encounter?

1. Such an event would have no effect upon my belief in what God is all about. Why should it? Are you referring to some specific man made "god" construct?

2. NO! Again, what man made "god" construct are you referring to?

3. Oh, so you are referring to the fake bible "god"! That mythology has nothing to with God.
 
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