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"The Davinci Code", any basis in fact?

Ellen Brown

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It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

Pondering and wishing.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

Pondering and wishing.
Dan brown? There is nothing in the bible that suggest that Jesus were married and assume that the most likely candidate would be Mary Magdalene, but it is never mentioned or suggested.
 
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Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
The idea of Christ being married and producing offspring largely comes from the book "Holy Grail, Holy Blood," of which the author of said booms readily states is based on a what-if scenario.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

Pondering and wishing.

Simply no. There is a great deal speculation and wishful thinking feeding on the delusion of coincidences and mythology. I may comment more later. OK fiction.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
The idea of Christ being married and producing offspring largely comes from the book "Holy Grail, Holy Blood," of which the author of said booms readily states is based on a what-if scenario.
Lol I recall the movie Dogma followed the premise of a woman who may or may not be Christ’s great great great great etc granddaughter.
Although unfortunately it is entirely fictional. A shame really.
 

Nimos

Well-Known Member
The Bible doesn't state Jesus had a life from the age of birth until his 30s. But obviously he was doing something.
That is correct, but I would think the bible at least would have mentioned it, had he been, some obvious places like when Jesus rose from the dead, it doesn't suggest that Mary had any romantic relationship with him or anything. But guess one can speculate about it.
 

KelseyR

The eternal optimist!
It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

Pondering and wishing.

According to scripture he had family members in the religion business and consorted with prostitutes, murderers and thieves. We can also infer that he used at least one contemporary Roman apparatus during his illusionist performances. I wouldn't be surprised if he was sexually active and had a wife, although the biblical description of him suggests a rather homely looking man.
 

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

Pondering and wishing.
If Jesus was married, Christians would have paraded this in the streets and shouted it from the rooftops, especially because one of the first heretical sects of Christianity (the Docetists) said that Jesus was never actually human; His apparent human body was a mere phantasm. Therefore, Jesus being married and having kids would have been the Church's best defense of Christ's real humanity.
 

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
If Jesus was married, Christians would have paraded this in the streets and shouted it from the rooftops, especially because one of the first heretical sects of Christianity (the Docetists) said that Jesus was never actually human; His apparent human body was a mere phantasm. Therefore, Jesus being married and having kids would have been the Church's best defense of Christ's real humanity.

As I recall, there are those who insist that Christ was totally human. Therefore a wife and progeny would have been logical.

My own premise is that his purpose here was greatly misinterpreted, and that he came to prove a path to the next life, or dimensional shifting. This was supposed to give men hope. Ah, whatever.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

Pondering and wishing.
Brown claims a lot of stuff is real history that is pure fabrication, or at best, old myth.
 
It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

Pondering and wishing.

The stuff about the 'grail', Templars, Constantine, etc. is fiction.
 

Firemorphic

Activist Membrane
It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

No, it's just a novel that repurposes a few old theories and myths.

As far as him being married, well from an Islamic perspective it wouldn't make sense for him to not have married (and in the importance progeny has itself in the role of Prophethood) but we have no accounts of his marital status, as it's simply not relevant to our religion.

However the Christian views on this are really interesting, I must say!
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I guess you could say Da Vinci Code is a gonzo novel. It contains many nuggets of truths, facts, and history, and placed in an otherwise realistic world, but it ultimately is a fictional world and facts are blended with fiction to tell a story.
The holy grail is not one of those bits of reality. And, seriously, Jesus would probably facepalm his palm through his face over such a silly idea of a cup he drank from being a sacred relic, equally absurd to the idea of him having a divine bloodline, which is made utterly redundant by these descendants being unaware of their lineage.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
As far as him being married, well from an Islamic perspective it wouldn't make sense for him to not have married
From what I'm told, it doesn't make sense from a Jewish perspective. But, it makes sense Christians do object to the idea, as they alone are founded upon guilt, shame, and have a tremendously influential leader who declared sex, even within marriage, is bad, and that god should have made another way to procreate. Combine that with Paul saying its best to not get married and have no sex at all with the counsel of Nicea deciding Jesus is divine, and we end up with Christians fiercly objecting because it makes Jesus seem more human.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It's a Tom Brown fiction book, but the romantic in me insists it is true. Should I trust the likely majority of the Christian community which says it is not? Was Jesus likely married?

Pondering and wishing.

Baha'u'llah confirmed Jesus was not married;

"..He that wedded not (Jesus) found no place wherein to dwell or lay His head, by reason of that which the hands of the treacherous had wrought. His sanctity consisteth not in that which ye believe or fancy, but rather in the things We possess. Ask, that ye may apprehend His station which hath been exalted above the imaginings of all that dwell on earth. Blessed are they who perceive it...."

Regards Tony
 

Firemorphic

Activist Membrane
From what I'm told, it doesn't make sense from a Jewish perspective. But, it makes sense Christians do object to the idea, as they alone are founded upon guilt, shame, and have a tremendously influential leader who declared sex, even within marriage, is bad, and that god should have made another way to procreate. Combine that with Paul saying its best to not get married and have no sex at all with the counsel of Nicea deciding Jesus is divine, and we end up with Christians fiercly objecting because it makes Jesus seem more human.

Yes, well their general views towards the inter-relations between Sexuality, Prophethood, Spirituality and God throughout most of their history has been quite vast different to our own views on the subject - and it's implications on it's effects within the religion's own respective worldview.
I think the concept of "God in the Flesh" as interpreted by most within Trinitarianism especially, creates what becomes an initial point of contradiction that can only be resolved by denying such a concept (Jesus being married/etc) within their theology (or should I say theosophy in this context) - for it to still uphold the general moral and ethical principles outlined in the Bible.
It's really the only religion that has this issue to combat and when it comes to nontrinitarians and the aforementioned (by Shiranui) Docetists and also the early Gnostics, many very wild ideas can emerge when that theosophical contradiction is thrown under the bus :D
 
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