Wow, you are really something.
You have claimed there were NO BELIEF BEFORE 2000 BCE, which essentially mean no religions, no religious customs (which would also include no “funerary” customs), no superstitions.
And most of your examples in your posts centred around the pyramids, and you believed that there were no belief in this period (in this case the Old Kingdom period, c 2686 - c 2181 BCE, which included 3rd, 4th, 5th & 6th dynasties).
But the thing what you seemed to don’t understand that the 3rd and 4th dynasties did leave all that much writings, so we really don’t have much to go on what they believe or what they know. Most of the writings that do exist in the Old Kingdom belonged to the 5th and 6th dynasties, like the Palmero Stone (a fragment of much stele, contains the royal annals of the OK, up to the 5th dynasty), the Pyramid Texts (which we already discussed and have only disagree on), and various inscriptions found on some objects.
Second, you assumed that the ancient Egyptians before 2000 BCE, have the “Ancient Language” and “Ancient Science”, but no religion, no belief.
And yet, you have no evidences of Ancient Language that contained any writing that has (ancient) “science” in it, because basically you don’t understand what science is.
Science is a tool to explain any observable phenomena or object, and EXPLAIN several essential questions:
- WHAT it is,
- HOW does it work (eg its mechanism),
- and WHAT and HOW it can be used (meaning the application).
The last one (point 3) is actually two questions. And for those questions to be answered, it need to be tested by evidences findings or test results from controlled experiments.
That’s what any falsifiable hypothesis and theory are, cladking, a set of explanatory descriptions of what it is, how it work and to explore if there are any application that you are investigating.
There are no writings whatsoever in Egyptian history BEFORE 2000 BCE, in which they ever explain how they do things. There no manuals, no instruction books of how they build anything, including building their pyramids, temples and palaces.
They just do, it by passing what they have learned to the next generations, but there are no science involved.
Science would required some systematic explanations, which don’t exist prior to 2000 BCE.
That doesn’t mean to say the ancient Egyptians of the 3rd millennium BCE or older) were stupid. I don’t think they were stupid.
No archaeologists or historians or Egyptologists are saying they were ignorant. They along with Sumerians-Akkadians were technologically superior to most of other contemporary civilizations and cultures near them, but they weren’t scientists.
The problem here, is you, cladking, you are confusing technological advances with science.
Science, or more precisely “natural philosophy” didn’t go hand-in-hand with technology, until the 1st millennium BCE in Greece (and as well as in Greek colonies, like in the Aegean, Asia Minor (or modern Anatolian Turkey), southern Italy and Sicily), which accumulated in Hellenistic Ptolemaic period and early Roman period.
It were the Greeks philosophers, the mathematicians, the physicians, etc, who actually attempted to understand nature and explain. Don’t get me wrong, the philosophers weren’t all-knowing, but they did try to leave the religious or superstitious belief aside...but not always so successful.
But what you failed to understand is that technological progress don’t always involve “science”.
It is possible to make advances in technology without science.
The Neolithic societies especially on the Nile and on Euphrates and Tigris, have managed to make advances in agricultural farming (including irrigation) and animal husbandry, in storage of food by making vessels using clay and pottery, and from building huts to houses using mud bricks - all done technologically, without explaining anything via science.
Science required systematic explanations, which the 4th and 3rd millennia BCE Egyptians were incapable of doing, and that from the lack of literary evidences. There are no scientific hypotheses or scientific theories in prehistoric and early (3rd millennium BCE) ancient Egypt.
You say “belief” don’t exist before 2000 BCE, but the word for don’t have to exist for people to have belief.
Writings didn’t exist before 3300 BCE, so there were no written words during the Neolithic period, like sun, moon, mountains, forest, farming, cattle, house, man, woman, child, etc, but they all exist before the written words.
You are not thinking logically, cladking.
In one of sayak83’s earlier post, he quoted an article on the discovery of tombs at Hierakonpolis (Nekken), which showed signed of ritualistic funerary customs, several centuries before even the 1st dynasty (1st dynasty started c 3150 BCE). (See post #53, April 2, 2018)
Burying anyone of status along with worldly objects and animal remains are signs of customs of religious in nature, and the customs didn’t end with the dynastic periods, including the Old Kingdom pyramids (Saqqara, Dahshur and Giza), the royal necropolis of Abydos, or in the tombs of the Valley of the Kings near Thebes.
Do think it is a coincidence that some of the texts in the Pyramid Texts resembled the Middle Kingdom Coffin Texts?
I seriously think need to get back into the real world instead of inventing conspiracy theories.
The Mad Hatter will be proud of the webs you’ve spin.