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Bibliolatry

Kenny

Kenny

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Wandering Monk said:
How prevalent do you think Bibliolatry is in the United States, using this definition:

"In Christianity, bibliolatry is used to describe extreme devotion to the Bible or to biblical inerrancy.[3] Supporters of biblical inerrancy point to passages (such as 2 Timothy 3:16–17) interpreted to say that the Bible, as received, is a complete source of what must be known about God."

Bibliolatry - Wikipedia
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Who determines when one is overly devoted to what is called the word of God?
 
sun rise

sun rise

The world is on fire
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Personally, what someone chooses to believe is up to them except when they want to impose it on me or others who don't believe the way they do or put me at risk (refusal to vaccinate).

Because if they do try to impose their beliefs, then they are no different in essence from ISIS. The details do vary, but the central similarity is imposing their beliefs on others.
 
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tosca1

Member
Wandering Monk said:
How prevalent do you think Bibliolatry is in the United States, using this definition:

"In Christianity, bibliolatry is used to describe extreme devotion to the Bible or to biblical inerrancy.[3] Supporters of biblical inerrancy point to passages (such as 2 Timothy 3:16–17) interpreted to say that the Bible, as received, is a complete source of what must be known about God."

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Bibliolatry means "worship of the Bible."
It is usually used as an attack on those who believe in the inerrancy, infallibility, and supremacy of the Scripture, and on those who hold to "Sola Scriptura" (which means "Scriptures alone"), and/or a literal interpretation of the Bible.


Who determines when one is overly devoted to what is called the word of God?
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It is bibliolatry to elevate the Bible as being equal with God that studying the Bible becomes more important than developing a personal relationship with God.



It is important though, to understand what is written in the Bible, describing the Bible itself.


2 Tim 3
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.


If the Bible is God-breathed, and if God does not lie......then, every word in the Bible must be true. That means, believing in the infallibility, innerancy and authority of the Bible, is not bibliolatry.

It is simply believing in what God says about the Bible.
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

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tosca1 said:
Bibliolatry means "worship of the Bible."
It is usually used as an attack on those who believe in the inerrancy, infallibility, and supremacy of the Scripture, and on those who hold to "Sola Scriptura" (which means "Scriptures alone"), and/or a literal interpretation of the Bible.





It is bibliolatry to elevate the Bible as being equal with God that studying the Bible becomes more important than developing a personal relationship with God.



It is important though, to understand what is written in the Bible, describing the Bible itself.


2 Tim 3
16 All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,

17 so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.


If the Bible is God-breathed, and if God does not lie......then, every word in the Bible must be true. That means, believing in the infallibility, innerancy and authority of the Bible, is not bibliolatry.

It is simply believing in what God says about the Bible.
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Which is completely circular reasoning. 'The Bible is God's Word because the Bible says the Bible is God's word.'
 
Skwim

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Wandering Monk said:
How prevalent do you think Bibliolatry is in the United States, using this definition:

"In Christianity, bibliolatry is used to describe extreme devotion to the Bible or to biblical inerrancy.[3] Supporters of biblical inerrancy point to passages (such as 2 Timothy 3:16–17) interpreted to say that the Bible, as received, is a complete source of what must be known about God."

Bibliolatry - Wikipedia​
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My impression is that Bibliots are pretty much confined to the evangelical denominations, which amount to 25% or so of the US population.

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Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

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Skwim said:
My impression is that Bibliots are pretty much confined to the evangelical denominations, which amount to 25% or so of the US population.

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There are a subset of Evangelical in my opinion. Not all Evangelical are Fundamentalist in regard to the Bible.
 
dybmh

dybmh

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Wandering Monk said:
How prevalent do you think [extreme devotion to biblical inerrancy] is in the United States?
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According to Pew Research in 2017:

"Christians, who make up a majority of U.S. adults (71%), are divided over how to interpret the Bible. While about four-in-ten Christians (39%) say the Bible’s text is the word of God and should be taken literally, 36% say it should not be interpreted literally or express another or no opinion. A separate 18% of Christians view the Bible as a book written by men, not God."

hyperlink >>> pewresearch.org - 5 facts on how Americans view the Bible and other religious texts
 
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tosca1

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Wandering Monk said:
Which is completely circular reasoning. 'The Bible is God's Word because the Bible says the Bible is God's word.'
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That's from a Christian perspective. That's a belief!

Here is a good explanation - I only quoted an excerpt of it. It also gives evidences why the Bible is the Word of God.

Is The Bible Truly God's Word?

Our answer to this question will not only determine how we view the Bible and its importance to our lives, but also it will ultimately have an eternal impact on us. If the Bible is truly God’s Word, then we should cherish it, study it, obey it, and fully trust it. If the Bible is the Word of God, then to dismiss it is to dismiss God Himself.

The fact that God gave us the Bible is an evidence and illustration of His love for us. The term “revelation” simply means that God communicated to mankind what He is like and how we can have a right relationship with Him. These are things that we could not have known had God not divinely revealed them to us in the Bible. Although God’s revelation of Himself in the Bible was given progressively over approximately 1500 years, it has always contained everything man needs to know about God in order to have a right relationship with Him. If the Bible is truly the Word of God, then it is the final authority for all matters of faith, religious practice, and morals.

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Is the Bible truly God's Word?
 
Wandering Monk

Wandering Monk

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KenS said:
And its not God's words as He moved on people because you say so?
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Circular reasoning is not a way to prove anything, Bible or otherwise.

Circular reasoning is not a formal logical fallacy but a pragmatic defect in an argument whereby the premises are just as much in need of proof or evidence as the conclusion, and as a consequence the argument fails to persuade.

Circular reasoning - Wikipedia​
 
dianaiad

dianaiad

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Wandering Monk said:
How prevalent do you think Bibliolatry is in the United States, using this definition:

"In Christianity, bibliolatry is used to describe extreme devotion to the Bible or to biblical inerrancy.[3] Supporters of biblical inerrancy point to passages (such as 2 Timothy 3:16–17) interpreted to say that the Bible, as received, is a complete source of what must be known about God."

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About 25 years ago I was flipping through channels, and landed on a religious channel. The televangelist was standing on the far side of a large, empty stage, holding up a copy of his Bible. He said, in tones that would have been appropriate from Moses on the mount, 'If Jesus Himself came down and told me that there was something wrong with this Book, I would turn my back upon Him and HOLD TO THE BOOK." (Caps reflect his tone....)

I have since met many evangelical, biblical (usually KJV only, but not always) inerrantists since then who shared this televangelist's opinion.

That, I believe, is bibliolatry.

..........pretty much the definition of it, I think.

Whatever, that experience sits in my memory like some other things, like, oh, where I was when Kennedy was assassinated, the Challenger explosion, the moon landing, 9/11...one of the big, life changing, memories. Before that I, even though I was in my forties, had no clue that anybody actually believed that.

But then, my own faith system has this belief about the bible: we believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. I've never had a problem with 'problems' with the Bible, and have never been taught, or believed, that it was inerrant. How could it be? Men wrote it.
 
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