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Poll says: majority approve of President Trump

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
According to Zogby polling the majority of Americans approve of the job President Trump is doing. This is a higher rate of approval than former President Obama had at the same period during his terms.

Zogby Analytics - The Zogby Poll®: Trump's job approval tops 50%; A majority of Millennials approve of Trump; Nearly half of Generation Z voters approve of Trump; Trump is winning back Hispanic, Independent, college educated and urban voters
"nearly half" is not a majority.

But hey, as you Trumpettes love to point out, the polls had Clinton winning the election, too, so yeah.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
"nearly half" is not a majority.

But hey, as you Trumpettes love to point out, the polls had Clinton winning the election, too, so yeah.
Re-read it. The nearly half is among Z generation only, the lowest of any age sub-group. Overall a majority, not a near majority, approve of the job President Trump is doing.
 

Terry Sampson

Well-Known Member
According to Zogby polling the majority of Americans approve of the job President Trump is doing. This is a higher rate of approval than former President Obama had at the same period during his terms.

Zogby? LOL!

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The Worst Pollster in the World Strikes Again
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Re-read it. The nearly half is among Z generation only, the lowest of any age sub-group. Overall a majority, not a near majority, approve of the job President Trump is doing.
So, all those times you handwaved Trump negative polls citing the preelection pro Clinton polls... we're just ignoring them, are we?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Is it Trump's supposed high approval rating that led to the Pubs getting clobbered in 2018?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
According to Zogby polling the majority of Americans approve of the job President Trump is doing. This is a higher rate of approval than former President Obama had at the same period during his terms.

Zogby Analytics - The Zogby Poll®: Trump's job approval tops 50%; A majority of Millennials approve of Trump; Nearly half of Generation Z voters approve of Trump; Trump is winning back Hispanic, Independent, college educated and urban voters
If Millennials keep doing things like this, it's going to force me to say nicer things about them.
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
According to Zogby polling the majority of Americans approve of the job President Trump is doing. This is a higher rate of approval than former President Obama had at the same period during his terms.

Zogby Analytics - The Zogby Poll®: Trump's job approval tops 50%; A majority of Millennials approve of Trump; Nearly half of Generation Z voters approve of Trump; Trump is winning back Hispanic, Independent, college educated and urban voters
I have never heard of Zogby, but then again, I don't place much stock in these polls at baseline. Unless they confirm my position, of course. :D
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
According to Zogby polling the majority of Americans approve of the job President Trump is doing. This is a higher rate of approval than former President Obama had at the same period during his terms.

Zogby Analytics - The Zogby Poll®: Trump's job approval tops 50%; A majority of Millennials approve of Trump; Nearly half of Generation Z voters approve of Trump; Trump is winning back Hispanic, Independent, college educated and urban voters

" Zogby Interactive — Zogby Analytics, popular in both the mainstream media and pop culture, is the brainchild of John Zogby, a pollster who has successfully predicted the result of nearly every presidential election from 1996 to 2012. A registered Democrat, Zogby’s polling group is actually known to show Republican bias in its solid record of 78 percent predictive accuracy."
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How Reliable Is the Zogby-Journal Poll?

“The Zogby stuff, on scientific grounds, is quite questionable,” says Zukin. “Online, Internet, opt-in polling, where people volunteer to be respondents, doesn’t really have a basis in scientific validity. There are two kinds of samples in the world. There are probability samples, and there are non-probability samples.”

The Zogby interactive polls, says Zukin, clearly fall into the latter camp. “With probability samples, when everybody has a known chance of being selected, you can make pretty valid inferences about the population from which it is drawn,” says Zukin. “You can’t do that at all with self-selected surveys. That’s a problem.”

Another problem with Internet-based polling, says Zukin, is that, in general, Web and email-based surveys tend to overvalue the opinions of young people. A group that is notoriously lousy at showing up to actually vote.

As I have written repeatedly, the poll that I think is the least credible is Zogby/Wall Street Journal/Battleground States,” adds Burka. “I can’t believe the Journal allows its name to be attached to this so-called poll.”
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So much for anything that comes out of a Zogby poll.

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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I have never heard of Zogby, but then again, I don't place much stock in these polls at baseline. Unless they confirm my position, of course. :D
It's one of the few pollsters I've actually heard of & remembered.
Of course, polls have questionable accuracy, & even less meaning.
That's why the fighting over them is particularly vicious (as we see here).
 
I have never heard of Zogby, but then again, I don't place much stock in these polls at baseline. Unless they confirm my position, of course. :D

This kind of partisan thinking is exactly what is wrong worth American politics. Putting feel-good confirmation bias over rigorous, systematic analysis of evidence is pathetic.

Sophisticated intellectualists, such as myself, avoid being victims of naive confirmation bias by ignoring the ones which show us to be correct and instead focusing on the polls that show our opponents to be wrong.
 

Cooky

Veteran Member
" Zogby Interactive — Zogby Analytics, popular in both the mainstream media and pop culture, is the brainchild of John Zogby, a pollster who has successfully predicted the result of nearly every presidential election from 1996 to 2012. A registered Democrat, Zogby’s polling group is actually known to show Republican bias in its solid record of 78 percent predictive accuracy."
source

How Reliable Is the Zogby-Journal Poll?

“The Zogby stuff, on scientific grounds, is quite questionable,” says Zukin. “Online, Internet, opt-in polling, where people volunteer to be respondents, doesn’t really have a basis in scientific validity. There are two kinds of samples in the world. There are probability samples, and there are non-probability samples.”

The Zogby interactive polls, says Zukin, clearly fall into the latter camp. “With probability samples, when everybody has a known chance of being selected, you can make pretty valid inferences about the population from which it is drawn,” says Zukin. “You can’t do that at all with self-selected surveys. That’s a problem.”

Another problem with Internet-based polling, says Zukin, is that, in general, Web and email-based surveys tend to overvalue the opinions of young people. A group that is notoriously lousy at showing up to actually vote.

As I have written repeatedly, the poll that I think is the least credible is Zogby/Wall Street Journal/Battleground States,” adds Burka. “I can’t believe the Journal allows its name to be attached to this so-called poll.”
source


So much for anything that comes out of a Zogby poll.

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Running statistics on statisticians. Interesting.

Who's going to run the stats on the statisticians running stats on Zogby, the original statistician?
 

Quetzal

A little to the left and slightly out of focus.
Premium Member
This kind of partisan thinking is exactly what is wrong worth American politics. Putting feel-good confirmation bias over rigorous, systematic analysis of evidence is pathetic.

Sophisticated intellectualists, such as myself, avoid being victims of naive confirmation bias by ignoring the ones which show us to be correct and instead focusing on the polls that show our opponents to be wrong.
I agree.
 

David1967

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I have never heard of Zogby, but then again, I don't place much stock in these polls at baseline. Unless they confirm my position, of course. :D

I've heard of Zogby, but after the last presidential election, I don't pay much attention to polls in general.
 

ChristineM

"Be strong", I whispered to my coffee.
Premium Member
According to Zogby polling the majority of Americans approve of the job President Trump is doing. This is a higher rate of approval than former President Obama had at the same period during his terms.

Zogby Analytics - The Zogby Poll®: Trump's job approval tops 50%; A majority of Millennials approve of Trump; Nearly half of Generation Z voters approve of Trump; Trump is winning back Hispanic, Independent, college educated and urban voters

852 voters = the majority of americans?
 
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