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That Whole Homosexual--Sin Thing

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
Ahh but those are myths contributed to Moses. You still have shown Moses as a myth even if those are false.

Not necessarily; if the events attributed to have occurred around Moses have been demonstrated not to have actually happened, then life attributed to Moses did not actually happen.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Not necessarily; if the events attributed to have occurred around Moses have been demonstrated not to have actually happened, then life attributed to Moses did not actually happen.

I see. So if Daniel Boone fought a bear and no one seen it, it's a myth. Imagine that.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Ahh but those are myths contributed to Moses. You still haven't shown Moses as a myth even if those are false.
Now you are making the error of shifting the burden of proof. In the world of archaeology just as in the world of science it is up to the people making a positive claim to provide evidence for their beliefs. Since there is evidence, and a lack of expected evidence that tells us there was no Moses the fact that believers have nothing but a book of myths puts the burden of proof upon them and they have none. Therefore it has been shown to be a myth.,
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Now you are making the error of shifting the burden of proof. In the world of archaeology just as in the world of science it is up to the people making a positive claim to provide evidence for their beliefs. Since there is evidence, and a lack of expected evidence that tells us there was no Moses the fact that believers have nothing but a book of myths puts the burden of proof upon them and they have none. Therefore it has been shown to be a myth.,

I'm not shifting anything. I'm plainly saying if the stories attributed to Moses are myth, that doesn't mean Moses is myth. Those claiming Moses is myth have the burden of proof.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I'm not shifting anything. I'm plainly saying if the stories attributed to Moses are myth, that doesn't mean Moses is myth. Those claiming Moses is myth have the burden of proof.
No, since Moses is part of the Exodus his existence is meaningless without it. You are once again trying to shift the burden of proof. The answer is not going to change.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
I assume then that if one is sterile, or infertile, or gone through menopause homosexual sex should be alright. Yet god makes no such exceptions, does he.

Sure He does.

So what. I wasn't addressing any forgiveness, which why I specifically said,

". . . if one engages in homosexual sex god will bar such an unrepentant or ignorant sinner from Heaven."

You said it, same as an unrepentant or ignorant. Repent and accept Jesus and your the same as everyone else.

Then I suggest a course in biology 101 and psychology 101, OR just go to that dictionary thing.

Science has no weight when it comes to a religious discussion about sin. So don't even bother wasting your time.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Thats good to know about you. Everything in your life that happened without a witness really didn't happen. That probably makes about half your life false and myth. Imagine that :)
Please, you know that is not what I said or implied. Some nights you do not appear to be able to reason. It looks like tonight is one of those nights.

Do you think that you can reason logically?
 

We Never Know

No Slack
No, since Moses is part of the Exodus his existence is meaningless without it. You are once again trying to shift the burden of proof. The answer is not going to change.

Sure your answer won't change. You think if no witness then it's myth. By that over half your life is false and myth.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Please, you know that is not what I said or implied. Some nights you do not appear to be able to reason. It looks like tonight is one of those nights.

Do you think that you can reason logically?

You implied no witness, it's myth. Half your life had no witness. Half your life is myth. Imagine that.
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
I see. So if Daniel Boone fought a bear and no one seen it, it's a myth. Imagine that.

If Egypt really had lost all its first born sons, lost its army, and lost all its slave labor, and this all went unnoticed by her rival nations; this would indeed be a myth.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
Since you refuse to learn from your errors my answer will not change.

Can your reason logically?

You continue to fail to do so.
My errors lol. Your errors are thinking if no one saw it, it didn't happen.
If a tree falls in the woods and you didn't see it, did it still fall? It's a simple question.
 

PoetPhilosopher

Veteran Member
Science has no weight when it comes to a religious discussion about sin. So don't even bother wasting your time.

I question those claims as I personally believe that scientific discovery tends to lead one to a better understanding of the universe which reveals more about God, ie "God is not a trickster". So in some cases it might be relevant, but I forget what the claims we are talking about are regarding science.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
If Egypt really had lost all its first born sons, lost its army, and lost all its slave labor, and this all went unnoticed by her rival nations; this would indeed be a myth.

You are talking bible bunk there. But in reality, if everyone l8st their first born sons today, it would cripple anyone.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
If you read the entire passage you included, you'll notice it also says... sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. So God does not single out the practice of homosexuality, as you are doing.
I would say that homosexuality along with other sinful practices are detested by God because they are harmful and against His design for human beings.

Thanks brother for the wisdom to put it all in it’s proper context.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
So in some cases it might be relevant, but I forget what the claims we are talking about are regarding science.

The topic is sin. Which isn't quantifiable by science, therefore science has no weight in the discussion of sin.
 
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