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Why Predudices are so dangerous?

TransmutingSoul

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Premium Member
Why are predudices so dangerous?

This topic is raised as it appears most of the conlict in the world and apparent in RF debates, comes about by predudices built on many aspects of life.

I see that is a sound and fair comment.

The base human rights one should use when posting on this topic is the United Nations 'UNIVERSAL DECLARATION
OF HUMAN RIGHTS'.

It can be read here;

Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Wikisource, the free online library

The Preamble starts;

"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,..."

Article 1 states;

"...All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood...."

So as all have these rights, it is should be obvious that what we need to address is actions against those rights. The danger is whan we do not act.

So now we can ask, what would be a view that is based on Predudice?

How can humanity act to ensure all have those rights, ensuring predudice is not the motivating factor?

Regards Tony
 
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TransmutingSoul

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I see that a dangerous predudice is that of attributing the actions of a few to a whole group.

A good example of this is the thread 'Why is Islam so dangerous". It attributes dangerous terrorists acts of a few, to a majority.

It would be more beneficial to ask 'why Terrorism is so dangerous'.

The answer could be that it is built upon extreme predudices held by individuals, that can attract and influence a weak minority of followers.

Regards Tony
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
Tony, I think I can answer your question.

Human behavior satisfies human needs. For example, the behavior we call "eating" satisfies our unconscious need for nutrition (now for simplicity, I'm going to jump ahead to my conclusion): Our unconscious need to feel superior to others is satisfied by arrogant behavior. And you can classify all prejudices as arrogant behavior intended to satisfy our need to feel superior.

Our tribe is superior to theirs!
Our nation is superior to theirs!
Our religion is superior to theirs!
Our race is superior to theirs!


And there are many, many, many other manifestations of arrogant behavior.
 
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TransmutingSoul

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Another predudice that can cause great conflict is that of Nationalism. An unbridled nationalism creates in part, a mindset that a nation of people may be better than another nation of people.

It has many other aspects that are not helpful to a world view based on the rights of all humanity.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Tony, I think I can answer your question.

Human behavior satisfies human needs. For example, the behavior we call "eating" satisfies our unconscious need for nutrition (now for simplicity, I'm going to jump ahead to my conclusion): Our unconscious need to feel superior to others is satisfied by arrogant behavior. And you can classify all prejudices as arrogant behavior intended to satisfy our need to feel superior.

Our tribe is superior to theirs!
Our nation is superior to theirs!
Our religion is superior to theirs!
Our race is superior to theirs!


And many, many, many other manifestations of arrogant behavior.

Thank you and I would agree it is all based in self.

I see the UN charter of human rights asks us to become a lot less selfish, from individuals to communities and on to nations.

Regards Tony
 

John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Unfortunately I think prejudice is hard wired into most of us humans, maybe at some point in history it was a beneficial trait that helped protect the village from outsiders. I try not to be but it's a battle and I often find myself slipping up.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Unfortunately I think prejudice is hard wired into most of us humans, maybe at some point in history it was a beneficial trait that helped protect the village from outsiders. I try not to be but it's a battle and I often find myself slipping up.

Thank you and I would agree, we are brought up amongst many predudices and taught many.

The key here is that it does take effort to identify what they are and how we can overcome them.

Little by little day by day we can change if motivated to do so.

Regards Tony
 

joe1776

Well-Known Member
Thank you and I would agree it is all based in self.

I see the UN charter of human rights asks us to become a lot less selfish, from individuals to communities and on to nations.

Regards Tony
It sounds like an exaggeration but it's hard to find exceptions. Thomas Carlyle called it "egotism" but he had it right I think:

"Egotism is the source and summary of all faults and miseries."
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
IMO we are all equal but many have a book that says we are not,there's prejudice in so called "sacred writing",if we could just accept we're all human first and foremost maybe prejudice wouldn't be such a thing.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Why are predudices so dangerous?

This topic is raised as it appears most of the conlict in the world and apparent in RF debates, comes about by predudices built on many aspects of life.

I see that is a sound and fair comment.

The base human rights one should use when posting on this topic is the United Nations 'UNIVERSAL DECLARATION
OF HUMAN RIGHTS'.

It can be read here;

Universal Declaration of Human Rights - Wikisource, the free online library

The Preamble starts;

"Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,..."

Article 1 states;

"...All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood...."

A number of nations never signed up for the UNDHR yet are still in the UN. Ergo the UNDHR means little if the very organization which created it does not care enough to take serious action.

So as all have these rights, it is should be obvious that what we need to address is actions against those rights. The danger is whan we do not act.

All do not have those rights. The UN is culpable as it never does anything serious about infractions as it is 1. Powerless. 2. Gutless.3. Has bloc voting by nations which are guilty of infractions.

So now we can ask, what would be a view that is based on Predudice?

Religion.

How can humanity act to ensure all have those rights, ensuring predudice is not the motivating factor?

Little as one of the causes is human thinking itself and people lack the will to call a spade a spade and call for action. Politicians are likewise unwilling to tip the boat in any serious way.

*you need to fix prejudices in the OP*
 
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John53

I go leaps and bounds
Premium Member
Thank you and I would agree, we are brought up amongst many predudices and taught many.

The key here is that it does take effort to identify what they are and how we can overcome them.

Little by little day by day we can change if motivated to do so.

Regards Tony

I agree that we are taught most but I also think it is in part an instinct. I tried hard not to pass on my prejudices to my daughter, when she was young I'd take her shopping with me and she would always want to help by handing over the money except in the Vietnamese bread shop where she would sit under the counter with her hands over her face. I asked why she did that and she told me she didn't like them because they talked funny. I can't think of how she learnt that.
 

TransmutingSoul

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Premium Member
IMO we are all equal but many have a book that says we are not,there's prejudice in so called "sacred writing",if we could just accept we're all human first and foremost maybe prejudice wouldn't be such a thing.

Personally I do not see any sacred book that says we need to be predudiced.

Thus could this though be a predudice, or maybe we just might see aspects of justice we are not yet familiar with?

I agree our oneness as humanity is most likely the first step.

Regards Tony
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
Personally I do not see any sacred book that says we need to be predudiced.

Thus could this though be a predudice, or maybe we just might see aspects of justice we are not yet familiar with?

I agree our oneness as humanity is most likely the first step.

Regards Tony

In some sacred texts there is prejudice to me because I'm an unbeliever,there's prejudice to women too and slaves.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Unfortunately I think prejudice is hard wired into most of us humans, maybe at some point in history it was a beneficial trait that helped protect the village from outsiders. I try not to be but it's a battle and I often find myself slipping up.

Then too, there is postjudice.

I grew up hating Japanese. Till I was such friends with
Sachiko, in US University. Now it is postjudice.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
The answer could be that it is built upon extreme predudices held by individuals, that can attract and influence a weak minority of followers.

I have fought this since I first came this site 10 years ago. But very few people actually care. Its easier for most people to say this >insert group name here< is all bad. Instead taking a step back and realizing it's the human nature behind the ideology that's bad.
 

TransmutingSoul

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I have fought this since I first came this site 10 years ago. But very few people actually care. Its easier for most people to say this >insert group name here< is all bad. Instead taking a step back and realizing it's the human nature behind the ideology that's bad.

I see your thoughts are sound. I see that predudices are cancers that will eat away at any good we may be able to do.

I also believe we can all rise above that basic human nature and overcome our prejudices. Not easy, but possible.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

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Premium Member
Then too, there is postjudice.

I grew up hating Japanese. Till I was such friends with
Sachiko, in US University. Now it is postjudice.

There is nature and nurture, where as a child we inherent thoughts and feelings of the society we live in.

Personally as a white male in the australian culture, I was brought up in a very prejudiced view of native australians. I was fortunate to go to school and have friends from this rich and wonderful culture, so I could see the hurt and injstuce behind these views and when I found and embraced a view about our oneness, It was easier to start changing my thought patterns.

The problem is, they were so ingrained into ones physic, that they will still pop into mind from time to time, which is always a worry.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

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Premium Member
In some sacred texts there is prejudice to me because I'm an unbeliever,there's prejudice to women too and slaves.

I can see how that could be the clonclusion. At the same time I can see how to overcome that view and not see them as predudices, but as things suited to an age, that are not suited to this age.

Regards Tony
 

TransmutingSoul

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Premium Member
I agree that we are taught most but I also think it is in part an instinct. I tried hard not to pass on my prejudices to my daughter, when she was young I'd take her shopping with me and she would always want to help by handing over the money except in the Vietnamese bread shop where she would sit under the counter with her hands over her face. I asked why she did that and she told me she didn't like them because they talked funny. I can't think of how she learnt that.

I would say nature and not your nurture. You can not control everything that a child hears in media and in everyday life.

Those situations can be used for education of a young mind, to steer it away from forming a predudice.

Regards Tony
 
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