Top Ten Reasons Why Jesus is Not God

[LuisDantas]

I could say the same for you Luis!!

You sure could. You could even mean it, although I would find that weird and, frankly, silly.

But it is your conscience. By all means, do whatever you feel to be sensible, and accept the consequences.

I do not particularly need nor crave your support, you know.

 

[Firemorphic]

My end of the spectrum?

Anti-anthropomorphic, you don't believe in sky fairies, am I right? neither does Islam.

Out of curiosity, how would you describe that place where you believe me to be? For that matter, which spectrum would that be?

Well you're an atheist, an ignostic and an apatheist. At the least we both agree that there is no sky fairies or guys that tell us what to do.

I don't think so. In any case, that is a very significant difference by any measure.

Ok, Advaita Vedanta and Dvaita Vedanta. The Islamic "Allah" is comparatively a combination of both schools of thought regarding Brahman, but we believe in Apauraseya regarding the Qur'an, not the Vedas.
We a non-dualistic, that's the whole point of Tawhid. Can't you see that? or have you not studied Islam deep enough? I repeat.....Non-dualistic.
Interpreting Allah as some kind of "guy-deity"/person is literally Shirk and Kufr, categorically but it's also what Wahhabis do

If we where dualistic, then the Shahada would mean nothing. "There is no God but God" is the same as stating "All is Brahman". (while being mindful of the Apauraseya element of divine guidance).

Probably not. But you sure surprised me here.

Ok then....

 

[Dawnofhope]

No, Baha'is do not believe in the Divinity of Christ. We believe that Jesus was a Messenger of God and a Manifestation of God, but not God incarnate. It is said in the Writings that Manifestations of God are made from the substance of God, but that is not the same thing as saying that they were God.

Some key considerations from the Baha'i Writings:

Were any of the all-embracing Manifestations of God to declare, ‘I am God!’ He verily speaketh the truth, and no doubt attacheth thereto. For it hath been repeatedly demonstrated that through their Revelation, their attributes and names, the Revelation of God, His name and His attributes, are made manifest in the world… – Baha’u’llah, The Book of Certitude

Further Baha'u'llah wrote (recorded in Gleanings):

Know thou that when the Son of Man yielded up His breath to God, the whole creation wept with a great weeping. By sacrificing Himself, however, a fresh capacity was infused into all created things. Its evidences, as witnessed in all the peoples of the earth, are now manifest before thee. The deepest wisdom which the sages have uttered, the profoundest learning which any mind hath unfolded, the arts which the ablest hands have produced, the influence exerted by the most potent of rulers, are but manifestations of the quickening power released by His transcendent, His all-pervasive, and resplendent Spirit.

We testify that when He came into the world, He shed the splendor of His glory upon all created things. Through Him the leper recovered from the leprosy of perversity and ignorance. Through Him, the unchaste and wayward were healed. Through His power, born of Almighty God, the eyes of the blind were opened, and the soul of the sinner sanctified… We bear witness that through the power of the Word of God every leper was cleansed, every sickness was healed, every human infirmity was banished. He it is Who purified the world. Blessed is the man who, with a face beaming with light, hath turned towards Him.

To clinch the deal Shoghi Effendi wrote:

…the Faith of Baha’u’llah – if we would faithfully appraise it – can never, and in no aspect of its teachings, be at variance, much less conflict, with the purpose animating, or the authority invested in, the Faith of Jesus Christ.. (World order of Baha'u'llah)

As to the position of Christianity, let it be stated without any hesitation or equivocation that its divine origin is unconditionally acknowledged, that the Sonship and Divinity of Jesus Christ are fearlessly asserted, that the divine inspiration of the Gospel is fully recognized… The Founder of the Christian Faith is designated by Baha’u’llah as the “Spirit of God,” is proclaimed as the One Who “appeared out of the breath of the Holy Ghost,” and is even extolled as the “Essence of the Spirit.” His mother is described as “that veiled and immortal, that most beauteous, countenance,” and the station of her Son eulogized as a “station which hath been exalted above the imaginings of all that dwell on earth”…(The Promised Day is come)







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[Trailblazer]

Paul? actually Peter referred to Paul's writings as scripture.... so ... you mean Paul and all the apostles?

No, I only mean what Paul said about Jesus being God. That was incorrect because it contradicts what Jesus said about Himself. Jesus never claimed to be God. Who are you going to believe, Paul or Jesus?

The Bible was misinterpreted early on because there was confusion about who Jesus was since clearly Jesus was MORE than a man and back then men did not know that there was an Intermediary position in between God and a man, called a Manifestation of God. Jesus had a divine mind because He was pre-existent in the spiritual world with God, but Jesus was always separate from God since God is One and Alone.

When Jesus said "I and my Father are one" He meant that they are one in purpose, and Jesus did the will of the Father because the will of Jesus was identical with the will of God.

 

[Trailblazer]

The Jesus in the New Testament said he will suffer for sins, die and be raised from the dead. The Jesus in the Koran is not at all like that.

The Koran does not say that about Jesus because the Koran is the Revelation of Muhammad. Jesus did suffer for our sins but His body was not raised from the dead. His soul was raised to heaven to be with God.

The description of Jesus in the Koran has some things in common with and some things that contradict the descriptions of Jesus in the New Testament and so this is 'another Jesus' and 'another Gospel' One might believe in 'another Jesus' but its not the real one.

There is only One Jesus. There are just different conceptions of Jesus.
The Koran is not another Gospel because there is only one Gospel, the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
The Koran is an other revelation from God through Muhammad.

 

[LuisDantas]

Anti-anthropomorphic, you don't believe in sky fairies, am I right? neither does Islam.

Nope. I am anti-theistic, not anti-anthropomorphic.

Islaam is utterly incompatible with me, and will always be. By its own design.

Well you're an atheist, an ignostic and an apatheist. At the least we both agree that there is no sky fairies or guys that tell us what to do.

I don't think so. Allah sure seems to fit well both descriptions, although the "sky fairy" part is not very consequential.

Ok, Advaita Vedanta and Dvaita Vedanta. The Islamic "Allah" is comparatively a combination of both schools of thought regarding Brahman, but we believe in Apauraseya regarding the Qur'an, not the Vedas.

Again, I just don't think so. Your Allah is nothing like the Devas, far as I am concerned. And comparing Islaam with Vedanta is just weird from where I stand.

No form of Hinduism that I know of (and they are many and quite varied) has ever approached the obsession with God that Islaam makes its own defining characteristic. Not even the Bhakti practices, far as I know.

We a non-dualistic, that's the whole point of Tawhid. Can't you see that?

Indeed, I can not.

If anything, Islaam is deeply dualistic, as best evidenced by the virtual paranoia against "mistaking" something else for Allah. Although I would not claim that Islaamic doctrine can sustain dualism, either.

Where you non-dualistic, you probably would not even have room for the idea of worshopping false Gods.

or have you not studied Islam deep enough?

Deeply enough to stop, probably not ever deeply enough to satisfy you. There is such a thing as knowing that I have had enough, and I am all too aware of how often Muslims assume (or at least claim) that non-Muslims are not well studied enough to have proper readings and opinions.

I have learned better than to care.

I repeat.....Non-dualistic.

That is not a take on non-dualism that I acknowledge as valid. Way too obsessed with deity, way too disfunctional by design.

If we where dualistic, then the Shahada would mean nothing. "There is no God but God" is the same as stating "All is Brahman". (while being mindful of the Apauraseya element of divine guidance).

Ok then....

The Shahada does indeed mean nothing. An ignostic knows that, all the more so when he is also an apatheist.

 

[Trailblazer]

For one thing, he does not have a good grasp of either human nature nor of theology. Nor of religion, for that matter...

So you have a better grasp of all that than an All-Knowing God who created humans?

Perhaps ironically, it has particularly strong marks of being entirely human-made.

That is backwards; because God created humans, humans cannot create God.

Of more interest to me personally, it is also quite divorced from the main constructive roles that a deity could have: it does not understand transcendence, and it is only barely useful for inspiration, and even then with the most destructive side-effects known in human history.

God is transcendent.
God is useful for inspiration for most people in the world.
God does not have roles, only humans have roles.
God does not cause side-effects in human history. Humans cause those.

 

[Firemorphic]

Nope. I am anti-theistic, not anti-anthropomorphic.

I know that, the importance I stated was that we both share anti-anthropomorphic views. We don't agree over Theism as a whole though, obviously.

Islaam is utterly incompatible with me, and will always be. By its own design.

It's not hard to tell

I don't think so. Allah sure seems to fit well both descriptions, although the "sky fairy" part is not very consequential.

I take it you don't subscribe to Dharmadhatu either? You're more Theravada, right?

Again, I just don't think so. Your Allah is nothing like the Devas, far as I am concerned. And comparing Islaam with Vedanta is just weird from where I stand.

I never mentioned Devas.....(who are anthropomorphic deities).

I mentioned Brahman (as well as alluding to Parabrahman) and Dharmadhatu.

If you find it weird then perhaps you're at a place where you may realize re-evaluating your overall stance of Islam might be a valuable choice for you, even if you reject it on a general basis.

No form of Hinduism that I know of (and they are many and quite varied) has ever approached the obsession with God that Islaam makes its own defining characteristic. Not even the Bhakti practices, far as I know.

Actually bringing up Bhakti Yoga is a good segway because it relates to why we are so deeply devoted to the Ultimate Reality but also illustrates a convergence of thought I see myself between both religions.
We believe it to be Shirk to worship created things (anything subject to dualism) but we believe it necessary to devote ourselves to that Ultimate Reality.
Hinduism takes a 160 degree turn and worships the Ultimate Reality THROUGH created things, seeing the value in symbol and image. I admire it, really.
You don't really need to understand our "obsession" with complete devotion to the imageless, faceless, nameless Ultimate Reality. As an Apatheist etc, it'd remain a mystery to you till your overall views change. But our devotion to Oneness is absolutely mystical and core to our spirituality.

If anything, Islaam is deeply dualistic, as best evidenced by the virtual paranoia against "mistaking" something else for Allah. Although I would not claim that Islaamic doctrine can sustain dualism, either.

How so?

We've got no moral dualism (God is the creator of good and evil, God is not good or evil, it's not applicable), there are no 'opponents' to God, we are only separate from God through our experience of this life within Maya and we return to God when we reach perfection (Ihsan). Where is the "deeply dualistic"?

Where you non-dualistic, you probably would not even have room for the idea of worshopping false Gods.

This is one of Islam's mysteries (in a good way) which I alluded to above. The answer to this is actually quite special.

Deeply enough to stop, probably not ever deeply enough to satisfy you. There is such a thing as knowing that I have had enough, and I am all too aware of how often Muslims assume (or at least claim) that non-Muslims are not well studied enough to have proper readings and opinions.

No, it's just a blatant eyesore when someone depicts Allah as a 'guy' when it is the complete antonym to Tawhid and what the Qur'an actually says (let alone the sayings of Muhammad and the Imams) about Allah. Little things like this are signs of a very superficial understanding of Islam.

That is not a take on non-dualism that I acknowledge as valid. Way too obsessed with deity, way too disfunctional by design.

Your oxymoron is noted.

 

[Trailblazer]

Some key considerations from the Baha'i Writings:
Were any of the all-embracing Manifestations of God to declare, ‘I am God!’ He verily speaketh the truth, and no doubt attacheth thereto. For it hath been repeatedly demonstrated that through their Revelation, their attributes and names, the Revelation of God, His name and His attributes, are made manifest in the world… – Baha’u’llah, The Book of Certitude

Jesus was not God. They were only God in the sense that they reflected the attributes of God. That is what the passage you quoted above says.

God cannot become a man. God can only manifest Himself as a man.

“Know thou of a certainty that the Unseen can in no wise incarnate His Essence and reveal it unto men. He is, and hath ever been, immensely exalted beyond all that can either be recounted or perceived. From His retreat of glory His voice is ever proclaiming: “Verily, I am God; there is none other God besides Me, the All-Knowing, the All-Wise. I have manifested Myself unto men, and have sent down Him Who is the Day Spring of the signs of My Revelation. Through Him I have caused all creation to testify that there is none other God except Him, the Incomparable, the All-Informed, the All-Wise.” He Who is everlastingly hidden from the eyes of men can never be known except through His Manifestation, and His Manifestation can adduce no greater proof of the truth of His Mission than the proof of His own Person.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 49​

The Founder of the Christian Faith is designated by Baha’u’llah as the “Spirit of God,” is proclaimed as the One Who “appeared out of the breath of the Holy Ghost,” and is even extolled as the “Essence of the Spirit.” His mother is described as “that veiled and immortal, that most beauteous, countenance,” and the station of her Son eulogized as a “station which hath been exalted above the imaginings of all that dwell on earth”…(The Promised Day is come)

Yes, Jesus was the Spirit of God, Who appeared out of the breath of the Holy Ghost, but Jesus was not God.

The one true God is apart from, and immeasurably exalted above, all created things, which means that Jesus was not God..

“Regard thou the one true God as One Who is apart from, and immeasurably exalted above, all created things. The whole universe reflecteth His glory, while He is Himself independent of, and transcendeth His creatures. This is the true meaning of Divine unity. He Who is the Eternal Truth is the one Power Who exerciseth undisputed sovereignty over the world of being, Whose image is reflected in the mirror of the entire creation. All existence is dependent upon Him, and from Him is derived the source of the sustenance of all things. This is what is meant by Divine unity; this is its fundamental principle...”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 167​

Identical with the Will of God Himself is not the same as saying that a Manifestation of God is God.

“The essence of belief in Divine unity consisteth in regarding Him Who is the Manifestation of God and Him Who is the invisible, the inaccessible, the unknowable Essence as one and the same. By this is meant that whatever pertaineth to the former, all His acts and doings, whatever He ordaineth or forbiddeth, should be considered, in all their aspects, and under all circumstances, and without any reservation, as identical with the Will of God Himself. This is the loftiest station to which a true believer in the unity of God can ever hope to attain. Blessed is the man that reacheth this station, and is of them that are steadfast in their belief.” Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, p. 167​

 

[Jim]

As a member of the Baha'i Faith, I want to illustrate the diversity in our ways of thinking by pointing out my disagreements with the OP in this thread. First I want to say that I think that it would be contradicting Baha'u'llah to say or insinuate that it's wrong for anyone to say that Jesus is God.

These are not my only disagreements with the OP, just a few examples.

What Muslims believe about God is exactly what Baha’is believe about God.

I know from personal experience with Baha'is, and in fact just from considering what my own views have been during the fifty years that I've been a member of the Bahai Faith, that beliefs of Baha'is about God range as widely as they do in all the rest of society, all the way from being sure that some God of Christianity exists to being sure that none of them exist. Pantheism, beliefs in pagan gods, Hindu gods, any belief about God or gods or anything else, that you can find outside the membership of the Baha'i Faith, you can find inside of it. I suspect that the same is true of all religions. It might be true that some Baha'is believe exactly what some Muslims believe about God, but the same would be true with any other religion and with atheism.

One difference between Islam and the Baha’i Faith is that Baha’is believe that Baha’u’llah was the Return of Christ and the Messiah promised in the Old Testament

I'm a Baha'i and I disagree with that..

Like Baha'is, Muslims believe that Messengers of God have come to earth since the dawn of human history. There are no other religions that teach this.

I disagree that there are no other religions that teach that.

Baha’is believe that Messiah has come and gone and his name was Baha’u’llah: Prophecy Fulfilled Webpage

I object to calling Baha'u'llah "Messiah."

The diversity in our ways of thinking also includes every kind of prejudice, including every kind of religious and anti-religious prejudices, race prejudices, and sex and gender prejudices.

 

[Spartan]

I really liked the way they described God on the video, while they were explaining why Jesus cannot be God. Anyone who likes logic owes it to themselves to watch this video.

24 Reasons Why Jesus is God

1. Jesus existed in the beginning (John 1:1; Philip 2:6; Rev. 19:13; Micah 5:2).
2. He was with God (John 1:1).
3. He is God, the Son (John 1:1; Rom. 9:5; Heb. 1:8, 10; I John 5:20).
4. He is God manifest in the flesh (John 20:28; I Tim. 3:16; Col. 2:9; Acts 20:28; Heb. 1:8).
5. He is God foretold (Isaiah 9:6; Psalm 45:6).
6. He is Immanuel, God with us (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23).
7. He is the true God (I John 5:20 with Titus 2:13; Romans 9:5).
8. He is the great God (Titus 2:13).
9. He is God our Savior (II Peter 1:1).
10. He existed in the form of God before His incarnation and was equal with God the Father (Philippians 2:5-7)
11. He is the only wise God (Jude 25).
12. He is omnipotent over disease. (Matthew 8:1-4; Luke 4:39)
13. He is omnipotent over demons. (Matthew 8:16-17; Luke 4:35)
14. He is omnipotent over nature. ((Matthew 8:26)
15. He is omnipotent over death. (Luke 7:14-15; John 11:25)
16. He is omniscient, knowing the hearts of the Pharisees. (Matthew 12:25; Luke 5:22; 6:8; 7:39-40)
17. He knew the thoughts of the scribes. (Matthew 9:3-4)
18. He knew the history of the Samaritan woman. (John 4:24)
19. He is omnipresent. (Matthew 18:20; 28:20; John 3:13; 14:20)
20. He was worshiped as God by the angels (Hebrews 1:6); worshiped as God by the wise men (Matthew 2:2); worshiped as God by the shepherds (Luke 2:15); worshiped as God by a ruler (Matthew 9:18); worshiped as God by Thomas (John 20:28); worshiped as God by the apostles (Matthew 14:33;28:9)
21. He forgives sins. (Mark 2:5)
22. He saves (only God saves). Matthew 18:11; John 10:28).
23. He judges. (John 5:22)
24. Paul, Peter, Jude, James, and John called Him God. (Galatians 2:20; 1 Peter 3:22; Jude 25; James 2:1; I John 5:20; Revelation 1:18; 19:16)

The Deity of Jesus Christ in Scripture

 

[Spartan]

More Reasons Why Jesus is God

Jesus Must be Jehovah

John 1:23 quotes Isaiah 40:3 as saying John the Baptist was to prepare the way for the LORD (Jehovah). John prepared the way before Jesus so Jesus must be LORD (Jehovah).

In Isaiah 44:8 God is the only Rock. Psalm 18:31 says, “Who is the Rock except our God”? I Corinthians 10:4, identifies Jesus as the Rock. Jesus must also then be God the Rock.

Isaiah 44:24 says that God (Jehovah) is the one who has made all things. Colossians 1:16, speaking of Christ, says that “all things were created by Him and for him”. Jesus must therefore be Jehovah God.

In Jeremiah 10:10 it says “the LORD (Jehovah) is the true God”. I John 5:20 states that Jesus is the “true God”. Jesus must be the true God.

Isaiah 43:10,11 says that “I, even I, am the LORD; and there is no savior besides Me. Jesus is the Savior (Matthew 1:21, Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1, etc., etc.). Jesus must be God the Savior.

Jehovah knows all things (Psalm 147:5). Jesus knows “all things.” (John 16:30). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah alone is the only one who knows the hearts of all men. (1 Kings 8:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10). Jesus knows the hearts of all men. (John 2:24-25; Rev. 2:18, 23). Jesus must be God.

Jehovah is our sanctifier. (Exodus 31:13). Jesus sanctifies us (Hebrews 10:10). Only God is the sanctifier of men. Jesus must be God.

Jehovah is our peace (Judges 6:23). Jesus is our peace (Ephesians 2:14). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah is our righteousness (Jeremiah 23:6). Jesus is our righteousness. (Romans 3:21-22; 1 Corinthians 1:30). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah is the giver of life who will not allow His people to be delivered / snatched out of His hand (Deuteronomy 32:39). Jesus is the giver of life who will not allow His people to be “snatched” out of His hand. (John 10:28). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah’s voice is “like the roar of rushing waters” (Ezekiel 43:2). Jesus’ “voice was like the sound of rushing waters” (Revelation 1:15). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah is present everywhere.(Proverbs 15:3; Jeremiah 23:24; I Kings 8:27); Jesus is omnipresent (John 1:48; Matthew 18:20; 28:20). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah’s nature does not change (Malachi 3:6). Jesus’ nature does not change. (Hebrews 13:8).

Jehovah is the only God we are to “serve”(2 Kings 17:35); Jesus (identified as the Creator in Colossians 1:16-17) is to be served (Colossians 3:24). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah the Lord is to be set apart as holy (Isaiah 8:12b-13). Jesus, as Lord, is to be set apart as holy (1 Peter 3:14b-15a).

Jehovah’s glory is not to be given to another (Isaiah 42:8). Jesus shares Jehovah’s glory (John 17:5). Jesus must be Jehovah.

God’s name is Jehovah (or Yahweh—YHWH – Isaiah 42:8). Jesus has Jehovah’s name (John 17:11; John 16:14-15). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jesus Must be Jehovah

 

[Trailblazer]

As a member of the Baha'i Faith, I want to illustrate the diversity in our ways of thinking by pointing out my disagreements with the OP in this thread. First I want to say that I think that it would be contradicting Baha'u'llah to say or insinuate that it's wrong for anyone to say that Jesus is God.

These are not my only disagreements with the OP, just a few examples.

I know from personal experience with Baha'is, and in fact just from considering what my own views have been during the fifty years that I've been a member of the Bahai Faith, that beliefs of Baha'is about God range as widely as they do in all the rest of society, all the way from being sure that some God of Christianity exists to being sure that none of them exist. Pantheism, beliefs in pagan gods, Hindu gods, any belief about God or gods or anything else, that you can find outside the membership of the Baha'i Faith, you can find inside of it. I suspect that the same is true of all religions. It might be true that some Baha'is believe exactly what some Muslims believe about God, but the same would be true with any other religion and with atheism.

I'm a Baha'i and I disagree with that..

I disagree that there are no other religions that teach that.

I object to calling Baha'u'llah "Messiah."

The diversity in our ways of thinking also includes every kind of prejudice, including every kind of religious and anti-religious prejudices, race prejudices, and sex and gender prejudices.

That's true Jim. Baha'is do not agree on everything. As long as humans are different they will differ in how they interpret what is in scriptures. That is not only true of Christians and other religions, it is also true of Baha'is.

For example, my husband insists that God is Loving and he says it is in the Writings, but I do not believe that God is Loving because I do not see the evidence of it. No doubt people who believe that feel loved by God, but what about the rest of us. It is our fault that God does not love us because it says in the Hidden Words that God will not love us unless we love Him first. That does not seem very loving to me. What kind of parent would not love his child unless the child loved him first? I am sorry that I cannot see God as loving.

 

[Trailblazer]

24 Reasons Why Jesus is God

1. Jesus existed in the beginning (John 1:1; Philip 2:6; Rev. 19:13; Micah 5:2).
2. He was with God (John 1:1).
3. He is God, the Son (John 1:1; Rom. 9:5; Heb. 1:8, 10; I John 5:20).
4. He is God manifest in the flesh (John 20:28; I Tim. 3:16; Col. 2:9; Acts 20:28; Heb. 1:8).
5. He is God foretold (Isaiah 9:6; Psalm 45:6).
6. He is Immanuel, God with us (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23).
7. He is the true God (I John 5:20 with Titus 2:13; Romans 9:5).
8. He is the great God (Titus 2:13).
9. He is God our Savior (II Peter 1:1).
10. He existed in the form of God before His incarnation and was equal with God the Father (Philippians 2:5-7)
11. He is the only wise God (Jude 25).
12. He is omnipotent over disease. (Matthew 8:1-4; Luke 4:39)
13. He is omnipotent over demons. (Matthew 8:16-17; Luke 4:35)
14. He is omnipotent over nature. ((Matthew 8:26)
15. He is omnipotent over death. (Luke 7:14-15; John 11:25)
16. He is omniscient, knowing the hearts of the Pharisees. (Matthew 12:25; Luke 5:22; 6:8; 7:39-40)
17. He knew the thoughts of the scribes. (Matthew 9:3-4)
18. He knew the history of the Samaritan woman. (John 4:24)
19. He is omnipresent. (Matthew 18:20; 28:20; John 3:13; 14:20)
20. He was worshiped as God by the angels (Hebrews 1:6); worshiped as God by the wise men (Matthew 2:2); worshiped as God by the shepherds (Luke 2:15); worshiped as God by a ruler (Matthew 9:18); worshiped as God by Thomas (John 20:28); worshiped as God by the apostles (Matthew 14:33;28:9)
21. He forgives sins. (Mark 2:5)
22. He saves (only God saves). Matthew 18:11; John 10:28).
23. He judges. (John 5:22)
24. Paul, Peter, Jude, James, and John called Him God. (Galatians 2:20; 1 Peter 3:22; Jude 25; James 2:1; I John 5:20; Revelation 1:18; 19:16)

The Deity of Jesus Christ in Scripture

REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT GOD

Jesus claimed to reveal God, Whom He called Father, but Jesus differentiated Himself from God:

John 5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself, even so gave he to the Son also to have life in himself:

John 8:40 But now ye seek to slay me, a man that have spoken to you [the] truth, that I heard of God; Abraham did not this thing.

John 14:1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God,believe also in me.

John 16:23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.

Jesus said that God was greater than He was:

Mark 10:18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Matthew 4:10 Jesus said to him, 'Away from me, Satan! For it is written: "Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only."

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

How could Jesus pray to and go to the Father if Jesus WAS the God the Father?

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

John 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Moreover, Jesus said that no man has ever seen God:

John 1:18 No man hath seen God at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.

1 John 4:12 No man hath seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwelleth in us, and his love is perfected in us.

Jesus said He was from God and that God sent Him, again differentiating Himself from God:

John 17:3 And eternal life means to know you, the only true God, and to know Jesus Christ, whom you sent.

John 7:28 Then cried Jesus in the temple as he taught, saying, Ye both know me, and ye know whence I am: and I am not come of myself, but he that sent me is true, whom ye know not. 29 But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.

Jesus even stated specifically that the Father had knowledge which was not possessed by the Son.

Matthew 24:36 No one knows about that day or hour, not even the Son, but the Father only.

Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

Jesus referred to Himself as a Prophet, and was so regarded. Jesus never referred to Himself as God.

Matthew 13:57 And they were offended in him. But Jesus said unto them, A prophet is not without honour, save in his own country, and in his own house.

Luke 13:33 Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

Matthew 21:11 And the multitude said, This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee.

Luke 7:16 And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people.

 

[Trailblazer]

More Reasons Why Jesus is God

Jesus Must be Jehovah

John 1:23 quotes Isaiah 40:3 as saying John the Baptist was to prepare the way for the LORD (Jehovah). John prepared the way before Jesus so Jesus must be LORD (Jehovah).

In Isaiah 44:8 God is the only Rock. Psalm 18:31 says, “Who is the Rock except our God”? I Corinthians 10:4, identifies Jesus as the Rock. Jesus must also then be God the Rock.

Isaiah 44:24 says that God (Jehovah) is the one who has made all things. Colossians 1:16, speaking of Christ, says that “all things were created by Him and for him”. Jesus must therefore be Jehovah God.

In Jeremiah 10:10 it says “the LORD (Jehovah) is the true God”. I John 5:20 states that Jesus is the “true God”. Jesus must be the true God.

Isaiah 43:10,11 says that “I, even I, am the LORD; and there is no savior besides Me. Jesus is the Savior (Matthew 1:21, Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1, etc., etc.). Jesus must be God the Savior.

Jehovah knows all things (Psalm 147:5). Jesus knows “all things.” (John 16:30). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah alone is the only one who knows the hearts of all men. (1 Kings 8:39; Jeremiah 17:9-10). Jesus knows the hearts of all men. (John 2:24-25; Rev. 2:18, 23). Jesus must be God.

Jehovah is our sanctifier. (Exodus 31:13). Jesus sanctifies us (Hebrews 10:10). Only God is the sanctifier of men. Jesus must be God.

Jehovah is our peace (Judges 6:23). Jesus is our peace (Ephesians 2:14). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah is our righteousness (Jeremiah 23:6). Jesus is our righteousness. (Romans 3:21-22; 1 Corinthians 1:30). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah is the giver of life who will not allow His people to be delivered / snatched out of His hand (Deuteronomy 32:39). Jesus is the giver of life who will not allow His people to be “snatched” out of His hand. (John 10:28). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah’s voice is “like the roar of rushing waters” (Ezekiel 43:2). Jesus’ “voice was like the sound of rushing waters” (Revelation 1:15). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah is present everywhere.(Proverbs 15:3; Jeremiah 23:24; I Kings 8:27); Jesus is omnipresent (John 1:48; Matthew 18:20; 28:20). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah’s nature does not change (Malachi 3:6). Jesus’ nature does not change. (Hebrews 13:8).

Jehovah is the only God we are to “serve”(2 Kings 17:35); Jesus (identified as the Creator in Colossians 1:16-17) is to be served (Colossians 3:24). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jehovah the Lord is to be set apart as holy (Isaiah 8:12b-13). Jesus, as Lord, is to be set apart as holy (1 Peter 3:14b-15a).

Jehovah’s glory is not to be given to another (Isaiah 42:8). Jesus shares Jehovah’s glory (John 17:5). Jesus must be Jehovah.

God’s name is Jehovah (or Yahweh—YHWH – Isaiah 42:8). Jesus has Jehovah’s name (John 17:11; John 16:14-15). Jesus must be Jehovah.

Jesus Must be Jehovah

MORE REASONS WHY JESUS IS NOT GOD:

2 Corinthians 1:3 Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

2 Corinthians 11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which is blessed for evermore, knoweth that I lie not.

Acts 2:22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

Acts 17:31 Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Ephesians 1:17 That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Romans 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Colossians 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,

Hosea 11:9 I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am God, and not man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city.

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

 

[Spartan]

Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Tsk tsk...

First of all, it would be correct to say that Jesus is deity incarnated in a human body. He is not "man" in the complete species sense of the intended meaning of that scripture.

Fast forward to the Book of Daniel, which was written at a time when the “son of man” phrase had a specific and known meaning. In the context of Daniel 7:13, where one "like a son of man" comes to the Ancient of Days (Almighty God) and is given dominion and sovereign power and universal worship of the sort that God alone possesses, the significance of Jesus' "son of man" usage cannot be overstated. It is functionally equivalent to saying that the one like a son of man is rightful heir and successor to the divine throne. "Son of man" is essentially the same as "Son of God" in this context. And if the person in Daniel 7:13-14 is only someone “like” a son of man, then it certainly implies there must be some differences. Otherwise it would say something like, “A son of man” came before the Ancient of Days.”

In addition, at the time Numbers 23:19 was written, God had not yet become man (Christ), so the statement does not necessarily preclude a future incarnation.

 

[Spartan]

Jesus claimed to be "Lord of the Sabbath". That's God.

Jesus said, "Before Abraham was born, I AM." That's God too.

 

[Lyndon]

And God is a gray haired old man sitting on a throne in heaven, yeah!!

 

[Spartan]

Jesus said that God was greater than He was:

Jesus was God before he incarnated as a servant (Philippians 2). So Jesus was speaking of the Father in comparison to his temporary servant status. Thus, your example is of no avail.

Mark 10:18

And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Jesus is asking a rhetorical question. And the answer is that because Jesus is God, then he is good. In fact, Jesus was without sin, because he was incarnated by God, the Holy Spirit.

 

[Lyndon]

Who is God married to in heaven so he could have a son in heaven??