What about same sex marriage: is that not contrary to truth of how humans should behave?
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Why should gay people be excluded from the self inflicted punishment known as marriage?
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What about same sex marriage: is that not contrary to truth of how humans should behave?
Because the only way one can have proper sex as our biology requires is to be hooked up with the opposite sex and that is how a family is created where a child has a mother for milk and nurturing care and a father for comfort and education.No
Why should gay people be excluded from the self inflicted punishment known as marriage?
How are gay people supposed to behave then?What about same sex marriage: is that not contrary to truth of how humans should behave?
What gay people? male's behave like males and females behave like females.How are gay people supposed to behave then?
Because the only way one can have proper sex as our biology requires is to be hooked up with the opposite sex and that is how a family is created where a child has a mother for milk and nurturing care and a father for comfort and education.
It is one thing that we are all guilty of masturbation, sodomy and homosexuality, but to enshrine it in law through marriage legitimises these human conduct: is that a good thing or a bad thing?That's the way it should be as required by biology, yes.
But humanity is unclean.
Humans have been having sex other than intended since well before religions were even established.
Heterosexual anal sex was/is common, masturbation was/is common, these things are not congruent with how biological sex is intended to work (procreation). Yet most if not all of us are guilty of these.
So that being said what makess heterosexuals different than homosexuals? I don't see a difference. We are just as unclean as they are, and vice versa.
When a man/woman masturbates it is sexual pleasure without the possiblity of a pregnancy. The same is true for a homosexual couple having sex.
Imho, yes it is sin (masturbation, sodomy, homosexuality). But regardless of how you split the hairs, we are all guilty of the same exact sin.
Yes. The judge should have asked the baker who told you to refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding and that individual priest would then be identified and brought to face justice.
Why on earth do you insist on this idea of "falsehoods." One person believes something, and does so honestly, another person believes something else, just as honestly. So the Jews that honour Shabbat on Saturday, and the Christians that honour sabbath on Sunday, can quite easily get together and have lunch on Monday, and spend their time discussing business, their favourite sports teams, newest movies, or even whether the CEO is a jerk or not. As long as they are comfortable within their own belief systems, and don't feel the need to shred the other's, what's the problem?So you do not see that living in falsehoods, downright lies and deceit harms individuals as well as the wider society and on the contrary these facets of a truly multicultural society with traditional religions and practices such as same sex marriage is to be celebrated even if they do not stand to reason? And why discriminate against a Muslim if he considers a dog to be too filthy to be allowed into his taxi?
Yes, this is true. How does that disprove the literal existence of gay people, exactly?What gay people? male's behave like males and females behave like females.
Why? What about eating meat...or not eating meat? Our evolution makes it possible for us to survive and thrive one way or the other, so how should humans behave on that issue? What about listening to music, and does it matter what kind of music? What about prayer...or not. Is there a right way to pray, is it necessary, to whom should prayer be direct?What about same sex marriage: is that not contrary to truth of how humans should behave?
Well now, really, if "we are all guilty" as you say, then if you don't enshrine it in law, then we'll all have to go to jail. And if we're all in jail, who is going to feed us?It is one thing that we are all guilty of masturbation, sodomy and homosexuality, but to enshrine it in law through marriage legitimises these human conduct: is that a good thing or a bad thing?
That is a valid concern.My answer is that traditionally, religious laws were all the laws that were prevalent in society. This was in the dark ages. So those still living in the dark ages without updating themselves with current humanitarian values of living in a decent society are criminals without any mitigating factors operating to save themselves from punishment for their crimes. So the father is guilty of a crime for not updating himself with current humanitarian values and still living in the dark ages of the past centuries from where we have learnt to become civilised now. Have I made this clear now?
Do you see any significant boundaries within which that change is allowed to occur?
Would there be a point at which the Bahai Faith just would not approve of some specific change to itself? Do you have any specific perceptions of which those would be?
Because the only way one can have proper sex as our biology requires is to be hooked up with the opposite sex and that is how a family is created where a child has a mother for milk and nurturing care and a father for comfort and education.
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Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
23 The man said, “This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called ‘woman,’ for she was taken out of man.” 24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh.
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman
Sex between females has a lower chance of HIV transmission than heterosexual sex. I doubt that you would argue that God prefers lesbians to heterosexual couples.
So the Baha'i faith could become anything? Whatever cultural values society morphs into, the Baha'i faith is right there?
How about if prayer become immoral? Will the Baha'i faith adopt this view and stop prayers?
I suspect not, there is a core set of values I suspect even the Baha'i won't give up.
How many examples do you wish to have?
No, that is not the meaning nor the context of muli(culture)ism.
Your not making sense.
That has nothing to do with multiculturism.
For example: The Baha'i spiritual law prohibits homosexual acts, but obedience to the spiritual laws of the Baha'i Faith are the obligation of the Baha'is only. The Baha'i Faith acknowledges the separation of religion and state, and opposes laws limiting the rights of homosexuals in society.
Yep.You mean this?: