Why don’t Baha’is in forums ever talk about what their religion is really all about?

[Jim]

I’m at the end of my patience about this. Can any Baha’i explain to me why no Baha’is in any Internet forums, including Baha’i Forums, ever have any interest in any discussion about what their communities are doing most of all with other people, and what their supreme world council has been promoting most of all for more than 15 years?

 

[wandering peacefully]

I’m at the end of my patience about this. Can any Baha’i explain to me why no Baha’is in any Internet forums, including Baha’i Forums, ever have any interest in any discussion about what their communities are doing most of all with other people, and what their supreme world council has been promoting most of all for more than 15 years?

Maybe they don't know. @adrian009 has spoken about his interfaith concil but what do Bahai really do on the ground in this country or worldwide? I have never seen any hard evidence or explanation of specific work besides spreading the words of the prophet. I've looked at Bahai sites to find specifics. All I can ever find is speeches they have given in the past or talks they are involved with now and pilgrimages to other countries to set up Bahai schools to teach Bahai. Do you know what they actually do to improve people's living situations?

 

[Nakosis]

I’m at the end of my patience about this. Can any Baha’i explain to me why no Baha’is in any Internet forums, including Baha’i Forums, ever have any interest in any discussion about what their communities are doing most of all with other people, and what their supreme world council has been promoting most of all for more than 15 years?

Just a suggestion, probably shouldn't seek to understand the Baha'i religion via the internet. Maybe seek out a local Baha'i community?

The internet is a quagmire of misinformation.

 

[Wu Wei]

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[Aupmanyav]

Why don’t Baha’is in forums ever talk about what their religion is really all about?: How can they publicly acknowledge that their religion is really and solely about proselytization (considering their small numbers)?

 

[Vinayaka]

I’m at the end of my patience about this. Can any Baha’i explain to me why no Baha’is in any Internet forums, including Baha’i Forums, ever have any interest in any discussion about what their communities are doing most of all with other people, and what their supreme world council has been promoting most of all for more than 15 years?

Too busy figuring out ways to convert maybe? When I read letters from the House of Justice, it generally says a polite thank you for the money, and then encourages more work for converting.


Subject: National Fund Goal Achieved

Dearly loved friends, On this, the 4th day of the Festival of Ridvan, we are overjoyed to announce that through the sacrifices and spiritual generosity of the American Baha’i community we have surpassed this year's National Fund goal of $38 million. Ya Baha'u'l-Abha!

This is a noteworthy advance beyond all previous years and a special token of the spiritual privilege in supporting materially the unyielding growth of Baha'u'llah's Revelation in our communities. As our beloved House of Justice exhorted in its recent Ridvan 2019 message, "And to a heart consumed with the love for Baha’u'llah, what more befitting occupation can be imagined than to seek kindred spirits, to encourage them as they enter the path of service, to accompany them as they gain experience and- perhaps the greatest joy of all- to see souls become confirmed in their faith, arise independently, and assist others on the same journey. These are among the most cherished of all moments that this transitory life affords."

This is a noteworthy advance beyond all previous years and a special token of the spiritual privilege in supporting materially the unyielding growth of Baha'u'llah's Revelation in our communities. As our beloved House of Justice exhorted in its recent Ridvan 2019 message, "And to a heart consumed with the love for Baha'u'llah, what more befitting occupation can be imagined than to seek kindred spirits, to encourage them as they enter the path of service, to accompany them as they gain experience and- perhaps the greatest joy of all- to see souls become confirmed in their faith, arise independently, and assist others on the same journey. These are among the most cherished of all moments that this transitory life affords."

With our love and utmost admiration for your work and generous support for His Cause,

Juana C. Conrad

Treasurer

National Spiritual Assembly of the Baha'is of the United States

 

[Vinayaka]

Maybe they don't know. @adrian009 has spoken about his interfaith concil but what do Bahai really do on the ground in this country or worldwide? I have never seen any hard evidence or explanation of specific work besides spreading the words of the prophet. I've looked at Bahai sites to find specifics. All I can ever find is speeches they have given in the past or talks they are involved with now and pilgrimages to other countries to set up Bahai schools to teach Bahai. Do you know what they actually do to improve people's living situations?

I could never find anything, other than one LSA that volunteered to clean a portion of a highway ... and that was mostly to get the sign saying, 'sponsored by Baha'i''.

 

[shunyadragon]

I’m at the end of my patience about this. Can any Baha’i explain to me why no Baha’is in any Internet forums, including Baha’i Forums, ever have any interest in any discussion about what their communities are doing most of all with other people, and what their supreme world council has been promoting most of all for more than 15 years?

These subjects have not come up often specifically in a thread.

Actually I did when challenged as what the Baha'is do in the world outside the Baha'i Faith itself in an old thread in this Forum, and a thread in another forum. One of the best references on this are the volumes of the Baha'i World publications that cover most of the 20th century.

I will surely respond again in any thread on this topic, and provide references. Ask and you shall receive!

 

[shunyadragon]

I could never find anything, other than one LSA that volunteered to clean a portion of a highway ... and that was mostly to get the sign saying, 'sponsored by Baha'i''.

My community cleans highways and has for many years. In North Carolina if you do not clean the highway they take the sign down. Though it they have been vandalized and with bullet holes a number of times. . Your negative sarcastic agenda is showing. Pull your skirt down!

 

[Jim]

I give up. Have fun with your RPG, everyone.

 

[Jim]

If anyone wants to know what I think Baha’is are doing offline the most, and what the Universal House of Justice has been talking to them about the most for more than 15 years; send me a PM. I won’t be holding my breath.

 

[wandering peacefully]

I could never find anything, other than one LSA that volunteered to clean a portion of a highway ... and that was mostly to get the sign saying, 'sponsored by Baha'i''.

I think @Jim is right. They should just focus on telling people what they do and not so much what the believe . It might put the faith in a more informative light .

 

[wandering peacefully]

My community cleans highways and has for many years. In North Carolina if you do not clean the highway they take the sign down. Though it they have been vandalized and with bullet holes a number of times. . Your negative sarcastic agenda is showing. Pull your skirt down!

Wow. Just plain nasty. I clean the sides of my highways all the time. Because I live here not because I want a sign.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

I’m at the end of my patience about this. Can any Baha’i explain to me why no Baha’is in any Internet forums, including Baha’i Forums, ever have any interest in any discussion about what their communities are doing most of all with other people, and what their supreme world council has been promoting most of all for more than 15 years?

Jim there are not many active Baha'i Forums and on an open forum there are many people that are working for the unity of the human race and the elimination of all predudices and they all do a large range of things, I see most do so without the need for comment.

I guess most are busy in life and not posting on forums.

Arthra posts on many forums mainly in DIR about his community and activities.

In my case, we have no Baha'i community, thus I can not offer you anything in that regard.

Regards Tony

 

[wandering peacefully]

These subjects have not come up often specifically in a thread.

Actually I did when challenged as what the Baha'is do in the world outside the Baha'i Faith itself in an old thread in this Forum, and a thread in another forum. One of the best references on this are the volumes of the Baha'i World publications that cover most of the 20th century.

I will surely respond again in any thread on this topic, and provide references. Ask and you shall receive!

There is still another thread which either was or ended in the Bahi topic, but I asked you specifically to please tell me what the faith does to help people. Your answer, paraphrased, was they are recruiting followers who can translate the bahai writings into braille for the blind. I asked, you answered. There was nothing else. So instead of throwing around nasty insults, why not take the opportunity to tell everyone what the Bahai do for betterment of the world since they would like and know that eventually everyone on the planet will some day see the light and become a follower of the one true god and the return of jesus Christ himself?

 

[Vinayaka]

Wow. Just plain nasty. I clean the sides of my highways all the time. Because I live here not because I want a sign.

As did my father, the atheist. Five miles up and down the highway from his place. I helped on occasion. He would have really scoffed at the idea of a sign. Many people work behind the scenes of all kinds of charities with no need whatsoever for any recognition. Same for donations to religions. Some people want a big plaque so everybody knows. So many people just do so much in so many unseen ways.

 

[Dawnofhope]

I’m at the end of my patience about this. Can any Baha’i explain to me why no Baha’is in any Internet forums, including Baha’i Forums, ever have any interest in any discussion about what their communities are doing most of all with other people, and what their supreme world council has been promoting most of all for more than 15 years?

Other than being a very infrequent contributor to one Baha'i Forum (that's open to all), this is the only other religious forum I post in. I can't really comment on what happens on other forums. I mentioned in one of your threads recently attending a youth camp where we had some 50 young people attend from different cultures and backgrounds. There were a few Christians and atheist/agnostics too. A central focus of the Baha'i Faith in the last 15 years has been the development of classes and youth groups that are open to all.

To be honest its an area that still requires a great deal of work and development in my city. I was a children's class teacher for about 5 years, mainly to ensure there were properly run classes when my sons were children. They are teenagers now and it was good to accompany my oldest son on the youth camp. He is openly undecided about religion but enjoys the Baha'i youth activities on offer.

A couple from Samoa moved into our community with their two young children and they took over the classes. They have been excellent. The areas of growth in the New Zealand Baha'i community have often had Pacific Islanders at the forefront.

What has most concerned me in working with young people are the high rates of mental health issues in our communities and the Baha'is are as affected as any other group. Its therefore challenging but rewarding work.

 

[Vinayaka]

Jim, I read the Ridvan message for 2019. To be frank, I couldn't glean much from it. A lot of what I'd call gobbledygook. Much the way politicians speak. Lots of vague stuff, not much concrete stuff. But than I'm not a Baha'i, and unfamiliar with what might be the real intent.

 

[Jim]

My question was for Baha’is, about why all Baha’is posting in all Internet forums including Baha’i forums have zero interest in what their world council has been promoting most of all for more than 15 years, but now I’m wondering also why every single person debating against Baha’is day after day, month after month, is so willfully ignorant about it.

 

[Dawnofhope]

Maybe they don't know. @adrian009 has spoken about his interfaith concil but what do Bahai really do on the ground in this country or worldwide? I have never seen any hard evidence or explanation of specific work besides spreading the words of the prophet. I've looked at Bahai sites to find specifics. All I can ever find is speeches they have given in the past or talks they are involved with now and pilgrimages to other countries to set up Bahai schools to teach Bahai. Do you know what they actually do to improve people's living situations?

You may be interested in this Baha'i school that was set up in Vanuatu by some Baha'is I know.

Rowhani Baha'i School - Home

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