Is there a war on Christianity in America's Left?

[sooda]

For your information the abomination of desolation hasn't even happen yet.

Revelation 21:22. Is after Christ Jesus has returned.
Revelation 11:1-2
1--"And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein"

2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months"

This temple is the temple mount which is in Jerusalem to day.

The temple in Revelation 21:22 is the temple of the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it,
Now can you explain exactly when this takes place, let's see if your as wrong on this, As you were with everything else

The Temple was destroyed in 70 AD.. and will be no more.. Jesus is the Temple now.

The Gentiles did trample Jerusalem and the Temple for 42 months starting in 66 AD..

Scofield had screwed you.

 

[The Hammer]

Are you a Scoutmaster?

If you're asking if I know and understand what it takes to plan a large multi-level logistical outing invloving a large number of people/kids/days/prep/ events and oversight, then yes. If you're asking if I work with the BSA, then no.

Edit: I ask again, what skills mastery is a girl going to learn that isn't applicable to boys?
Edit2: Here are the skills. Life Skills - Girl Scouts.

 

[Faithofchristian]

The Temple was destroyed in 70 AD.. and will be no more.. Jesus is the Temple now.

The Gentiles did trample Jerusalem and the Temple for 42 months starting in 66 AD..

Scofield had screwed you.

Your way off, good luck on that one, you will need it.
Seeing you haven't a clue or idea what the book of Revelation is about or Confirm's

Can you explain when Revelation 21:22 happens, let's see if your just as wrong on this, As you were wrong on everything else.

 

[Dan From Smithville]

I don't believe there is a war on Christianity; it is more about redressing the previous benefits that Christians were granted above all others.

I have never felt that my personal beliefs were under any threat. Well, except by others that claim to be Christian too. Apparently, it is OK with other Christians that you are Christian, but it has to be the right kind.

When you have been running in first place for hundreds of years, having the other runners on the field get neck and neck with you, might seem like there is a war on for some.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Jews are concerned when ANYONE is oppressed. We marched with the Civil rights movement. Feminism was started by Jewish women. When those mosques in New Zealand were shot up, Jews immediately sent aid.

So yes, Jewish response to Sri Lanka is one of concern. And when Christian beliefs in the US are discriminated against, we know it hurts all religions (including us).

It's a matter of seeing the larger picture, rather than being strictly concerned with one's selves.

So...assuming you read my whole post...my point wasn't 'why are you concerned', but why Christians? Why not people? Which includes Christians.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

@Shiranui117
Sorry...there was a major system failure with Aussie customs yesterday, so getting back in the country from a business trip in Singapore turned into a saga!!

I meant to say as follows;

I find the term Easter Worshippers pretty strange.
The people killed weren't all Christians, and it wasn't only churches that were attacked. So if they removed religion references entirely when talking about ALL victims, I'd probably give it a pass.

But...the attacks were clearly done with Christians a focus. And calling them Easter Worshippers doesn't allow for the non Christians anyway. Seems like ridiculous reporting to me.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

For exampe, I am not a Passover worshiper. I am a Jew.

You don't worship on Passover?

"Passover worshipper" = "worshipper participating in a Passover service"

"Easter worshipper" = "worshipper participating in an Easter service"

Seriously - this isn't that hard to comprehend. Do you also think that the "Mother's Day brunch crowd" eats Mother's Day at brunch, or that "Halloween trick-or-treaters" go door to door asking for Halloweens?

 

[lewisnotmiller]

This is complete nonsense.
Of course Easter worshippers are Christians.
But it wasn't only because they were Christians. They weren't out at a market, or going to a wedding. The targets were Easter worshippers! They were at church, celebrating the highest Holy Day.

And they got blown up. Because that's when the terrorists knew that they could maximize damage and death. So, of course, the victims were referred to as Easter worshippers because that's what they were.

Tom

This is actually an interesting perspective. Thanks!

 

[Revoltingest]

We have the earliest extant manuscripts and documents which shows us the original truths of Jesus Christ and his teachings, and the New Testament. We don't need to rely on translations being rewritten ad nauseum.

Your description of Christians also ignores God's Holy Spirit who indwells believers and leads them, with their cooperation, into understanding God's objective moral principles.

And the problem with subjective morality that departs from objective Biblical principles? It's the broad road that leads to destruction at the Judgment.

"Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction" - Matthew 7

And yet, Christians cannot agree on things like abortion, killing, taxation, marital
fidelity, war, etc, etc. Their opinions are of such great diversity that this means
their scripture gives great room for subjective interpretation. And that's just one
of many religions, none of which can claim to be objectively true.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Are you a victim? I'm not. Trump claims he's a victim and the system is rigged against him.. He's been whining about being a victim since the 1980s.

I do not personally feel like a victim 99% of the time. Someone pushes me, I push back. My attitude is that if someone oppresses me, I'll try twice as hard, flipping them the bird.

But there are times I'm shocked out of that comfort zone. Times when I get scared. There are times when I've been accosted on the street for being a Jew, and I've wondered if I was going to get beat up. I have memories of being molested, which I don't usually remember, but when I do, they still make me sick. I think of Saturday's synagogue shooting, not an hour away from me, and realize that could have been my synagogue. Heck I moved where I am now because where I was before? Two Jews were shot going to morning prayers at the synagogue just down the street. The truth is, I'm not safe, and I simply prefer not to think about it.

Okay, going back into the "not thinking about it' mode.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

You don't worship on Passover?

"Passover worshipper" = "worshipper participating in a Passover service"

"Easter worshipper" = "worshipper participating in an Easter service"

Seriously - this isn't that hard to comprehend. Do you also think that the "Mother's Day brunch crowd" eats Mother's Day at brunch, or that "Halloween trick-or-treaters" go door to door asking for Halloweens?

I didn't say I don't do liturgy on Passover. I am saying it is not appropriate to refer to me as a Passover worshiper. I'm a Jew.

And they are Christians.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

So...assuming you read my whole post...my point wasn't 'why are you concerned', but why Christians? Why not people? Which includes Christians.

I am concerned about many things. But this thread is specific to the war on Christians.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Protestantism, huh?

Why would you make this remark?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

I didn't say I don't do liturgy on Passover. I am saying it is not appropriate to refer to me as a Passover worshiper. I'm a Jew.

The two aren't mutually exclusive. Someone who participates in worship as part of a Passover service is a Passover worshipper.

Edit: you said that you aren't a Passover worshipper... i.e. someone who worships on Passover.

And they are Christians.

... as evidenced by the fact that they make a point of worshipping on Easter.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I am concerned about many things. But this thread is specific to the war on Christians.

Right, but you chose to respond to me only about one point (my suggestion that oppressive regimes oppress people), and none of my other thoughts.

I mean, we can just hit reset, and recalibrate on the OP if you like.

What is the war on Christians, and who perpetrates it to your mind?
Why is the word 'war' appropriate?
What does persecute mean?

That would be my three questions.

 

[Left Coast]

No you don't.

Then you're not paying attention.

Cenk Ugyur/TYT, Sam Seder, David Pakman, Thom Hartmann, politicians like Bernie Sanders, etc. Progressives oppose fundamentalism from every religion. We just happen to have mostly Christian fundamentalists in this country, so progressives talk the most about them.

In fact, I think it was either Sam Harris or Richard Dawkins who said something negative about Islam and was so raked over the coals for it that he retracted.

Being opposed to fundamentalism does not mean tolerating any ignorant negative comment a person makes about a religion. So if Harris or Dawkins said something unfair or inaccurate about Islam, then they should have been criticized.

 

[Oeste]

Trump didn't replace Christians with a euphemism."

He didn't refer to "Christians" at all. He referred to churches instead.

What he did was not unusual. What Clinton and Obama did was WEIRD.

Nah. What YOU did was weird. You referred to Easter as an "euphenism".

Come on you guys. No one wants to say that Muslim extremists killed hundred of Christians on their holiest day of the year.

Well at least we're in agreement there.

Two democrats went so for as to use euphemisms for Christians, which is far worse than not to mention them at all.

Easter, sometimes referred to as Pascha or Resurrection Sunday, is the holiest day on the Christian calendar. Their is nothing "unpleasant" or "embarrassing" about it, and I wish the politically indoctrinated religious right would stop acting as if they were. If you are ashamed of Christ, Christ will be ashamed of you:

If anyone is ashamed of me and my message, the Son of Man will be ashamed of that person when he returns in his glory and in the glory of the Father and the holy angels. (Luke 9:26)

Easter is not an euphemism but a commonly used synonym for Resurrection Sunday, properly referred to as such by Obama and Clinton. While you might be excused @IndigoChild5559. I expect my fellow Christians here (well most...JW's excluded) to embrace Easter, not run away from it or call a reference to it "weird". Since when did Easter become weird? Was it officially weird before or after Obama pronounced it?

This whole thread is a nonsensical, wholly unnecessary attack on the the body of Christ, which is not divided into "right" and "left" wing Christians.

 

[pearl]

Why? Has being a Christian become too much of an embarrassment for Democrats these days?

"The attacks on tourists and Easter worshippers in Sri Lanka are an attack on humanity," Obama tweeted on Easter Sunday.

"On a day devoted to love, redemption, and renewal, we pray for the victims and stand with the people of Sri Lanka."

If there is any embarrassment caused by the using the word Christian, its because so many 'Christians' have twisted it and turned it into a weapon against others.

 

[pearl]

I was a Scout myself - in Canada - and I clearly recall reading in all our materials that all the references to "God" weren't meant refer to the Christian God specifically, but to whichever god the individual Scout believed in. "Duty to God" wasn't meant to refer to any sort of Christian tenets necessarily, but to the Scout's duty to approach their religion - any religion - honestly and honourably.

Absolutely. I was a den mother and my son is an Eagle Scout. Our troop met in the Temple, the leader was Jewish. The religious badge was required but no religion specified.

 

[Audie]

You don't worship on Passover?

"Passover worshipper" = "worshipper participating in a Passover service"

"Easter worshipper" = "worshipper participating in an Easter service"

Seriously - this isn't that hard to comprehend. Do you also think that the "Mother's Day brunch crowd" eats Mother's Day at brunch, or that "Halloween trick-or-treaters" go door to door asking for Halloweens?

It shows how far one has to reach to find
examples of anti christian persecution.