3 times Jesus was awesome

[Vee]

There are many more, but these 3 come to mind:

He threw the sellers out of the temple (John 2:14-16), saying: “Is it not written, ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a cave of robbers.” The sellers were charging exorbitant prices to people who needed to buy animals to sacrifice. Jesus saw that as extortion or robbery, something unacceptable in a place that was meant for prayer and worship.


He taught people how they should treat others. In the sermon on the mount Jesus taught a lot of practical things, but my favorite is the one registered in Luke 6:31 “Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them”. Very simple, straight to the point, perhaps the best-known statement in that sermon, often called the Golden Rule.


He turned water into wine.Jesus was attending a wedding and the wine ran out. Very embarrassing. So, what did Jesus do? He turned water into wine (John 2: 1-11)!
That’s one skill I wish I had.

Have a wonderful Sunday everyone.

Vee

 

[BSM1]

There are many more, but these 3 come to mind:

He threw the sellers out of the temple (John 2:14-16), saying: “Is it not written, ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a cave of robbers.” The sellers were charging exorbitant prices to people who needed to buy animals to sacrifice. Jesus saw that as extortion or robbery, something unacceptable in a place that was meant for prayer and worship.


He taught people how they should treat others. In the sermon on the mount Jesus taught a lot of practical things, but my favorite is the one registered in Luke 6:31 “Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them”. Very simple, straight to the point, perhaps the best-known statement in that sermon, often called the Golden Rule.


He turned water into wine.Jesus was attending a wedding and the wine ran out. Very embarrassing. So, what did Jesus do? He turned water into wine (John 2: 1-11)!
That’s one skill I wish I had.

Have a wonderful Sunday everyone.

Vee

Actually, unless I am mistaken, these guys were "money changers"; they changed whatever coin you had into "temple coins" so you could buy the consecrated animals from the temple leaders. The animals were required for the mandatory sacrifice but were overpriced,, and the money changers were charging a monster percentage for the exchange. The folks who did not have the proper animals were taking a double hit. The money guys were also kicking back to the temple guys for the opportunity the get fat. This ponzie scheme was what fired up JC.

 

[Vee]

Actually, unless I am mistaken, these guys were "money changers"; they changed whatever coin you had into "temple coins" so you could buy the consecrated animals from the temple leaders. The animals were required for the mandatory sacrifice but were overpriced,, and the money changers were charging a monster percentage for the exchange. The folks who did not have the proper animals were taking a double hit. The money guys were also kicking back to the temple guys for the opportunity the get fat. This ponzie scheme was what fired up JC.

Now imagine what he should to to central banks.

 

[sooda]

Actually, unless I am mistaken, these guys were "money changers"; they changed whatever coin you had into "temple coins" so you could buy the consecrated animals from the temple leaders. The animals were required for the mandatory sacrifice but were overpriced,, and the money changers were charging a monster percentage for the exchange. The folks who did not have the proper animals were taking a double hit. The money guys were also kicking back to the temple guys for the opportunity the get fat. This ponzie scheme was what fired up JC.

Almost...

The Pharisee wouldn't accept payment in Roman coin.. only in shekels..

The money changers took a percentage to change Roman coin into shekels and were cheating the poor.

 

[Thief]

He threw the sellers out of the temple

He threw everyone out

when the whipping was done....He stood alone

shall I render my vision of it?

 

[Vee]

shall I render my vision of it?

As long as you respect RF rules, sure

 

[Thief]

As long as you respect RF rules, sure

as before..... repeatedly...….

picture yourself as a follower....yes you can
three years you follow Him and you have seen things unexplained …..and fearful

as He steps to the threshold of the Temple He stands for a moment
and takes hold a small cord at hand

you watch....as He ties knots in the cord
and with each knot tightened ….His Face grows more grim

there is only one use for such a thing
and He continues tying knots

He might even look to you......in the eye
as He does so

then He stands to the temple entrance and makes the announcement
Get out....!!!
He is likely to say it more than once as the crowd is thick and busy

as silence spreads over the people.....I can hear it
as if I were there.....someone laughed

and the beating began......him first

no doubt.....as He moved through crowd.....several men tried to stop Him
and failed

as a black belt....I have a firm notion of what it would take
to drive the people from a place they believe belongs to them

THAT was NOT ordinary
FAR beyond common strength
FAR beyond training

far beyond me

and He stood alone as the temple had been cleaned

 

[Thief]

and If I had been there.....in the flesh....

and having seen that event

I would not dare one step over that threshold

I would stay outside....with everyone else

 

[Skwim]

There are many more, but these 3 come to mind:

He threw the sellers out of the temple (John 2:14-16), saying: “Is it not written, ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a cave of robbers.” The sellers were charging exorbitant prices to people who needed to buy animals to sacrifice. Jesus saw that as extortion or robbery, something unacceptable in a place that was meant for prayer and worship.


He taught people how they should treat others. In the sermon on the mount Jesus taught a lot of practical things, but my favorite is the one registered in Luke 6:31 “Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them”. Very simple, straight to the point, perhaps the best-known statement in that sermon, often called the Golden Rule.


He turned water into wine.Jesus was attending a wedding and the wine ran out. Very embarrassing. So, what did Jesus do? He turned water into wine (John 2: 1-11)!
That’s one skill I wish I had.

Have a wonderful Sunday everyone.

Vee

And sometimes Jesus was far from awesome.

There are always the issues of omission. Issues where Jesus had every opportunity to condemn a practice, but chose not to. The first that comes to mind is slavery, a practice the apostle Peter recognizes and condones

1Peter 2:18-20
"18 Slaves, be willing to serve your masters. Do this with all respect. You should obey the masters who are good and kind, and you should obey the masters who are bad. 19 One of you might have to suffer even when you have done nothing wrong. If you think of God and bear the pain, this pleases God. 20 But if you are punished for doing wrong, there is no reason to praise you for bearing that punishment. But if you suffer for doing good and you are patient, this pleases God.​

Think he would condone anything Jesus was against? Hell no! So it's fair to assume Jesus condoned slavery as well.



AND, those issues of omission where Jesus had every opportunity to condone a practice, but chose not to. The first to come to mind is homosexuality, a practice Paul recognizes and condemns. Among others passages we have:

1 Timothy 1:9-10
9 We also know that the law is not made for those who do what is right. It is made for those who are against the law and refuse to follow it. The law is for sinners who are against God and all that is pleasing to him. It is for those who have no interest in spiritual things and for those who kill their fathers or mothers or anyone else. 10 It is for those who commit sexual sins, homosexuals, those who sell slaves, those who tell lies, those who don’t tell the truth under oath, and those who are against the true teaching of God.​

Think Paul would condemn anything Jesus didn't? Hell no! So it's fair to assume Jesus condemned homosexuality as well.

So, while Jesus may have done some "awesome" things, he also did some loathsome things.

Ethics wise, Jesus was no different than we mere mortals.
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[crossfire]

There are many more, but these 3 come to mind:

He threw the sellers out of the temple (John 2:14-16), saying: “Is it not written, ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a cave of robbers.” The sellers were charging exorbitant prices to people who needed to buy animals to sacrifice. Jesus saw that as extortion or robbery, something unacceptable in a place that was meant for prayer and worship.

I would say this was related to the practice of throwing all of the leaven out of the house prior to the festival of unfermented loaves/passover. I'd say it was awesome in this regard.

He taught people how they should treat others.

In the sermon on the mount Jesus taught a lot of practical things, but my favorite is the one registered in Luke 6:31 “Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them”. Very simple, straight to the point, perhaps the best-known statement in that sermon, often called the Golden Rule.

More awesomeness!

He turned water into wine.

Jesus was attending a wedding and the wine ran out. Very embarrassing. So, what did Jesus do? He turned water into wine (John 2: 1-11)!
That’s one skill I wish I had.

Have a wonderful Sunday everyone.

Vee

In stone jars that had been set out there for Jewish purification, nonetheless. (I wonder if these jars had leaven in them?)

 

[Kenny]

Actually, unless I am mistaken, these guys were "money changers"; they changed whatever coin you had into "temple coins" so you could buy the consecrated animals from the temple leaders. The animals were required for the mandatory sacrifice but were overpriced,, and the money changers were charging a monster percentage for the exchange. The folks who did not have the proper animals were taking a double hit. The money guys were also kicking back to the temple guys for the opportunity the get fat. This ponzie scheme was what fired up JC.

I believe that was half of it. The other half was that area was for the gentiles to be able to come and worship. With the money changers there, they actually were preventing people that God desired as His own from coming in. Thus the statement "My House shall be called a house of prayer but you have made it a den of thieves". Not only robbing people in the exchange of money, but robbing people of the opportunity to connect with God.

 

[BSM1]

Now imagine what he should to to central banks.

Not even the same thing by any stretch of the imagination. The above transactions were taking place inside the temple grounds which were supposed to be accessed by worshipers.

 

[BSM1]

I believe that was half of it. The other half was that area was for the gentiles to be able to come and worship. With the money changers there, they actually were preventing people that God desired as His own from coming in. Thus the statement "My House shall be called a house of prayer but you have made it a den of thieves". Not only robbing people in the exchange of money, but robbing people of the opportunity to connect with God.

Exactly. That was what I was trying to think of in post #12, but it's late I just watched GOT...

 

[lukethethird]

He taught people how they should treat others. In the sermon on the mount Jesus taught a lot of practical things, but my favorite is the one registered in Luke 6:31 “Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them”. Very simple, straight to the point, perhaps the best-known statement in that sermon, often called the Golden Rule.

Vee

Seriously, this had to be said? What was going on?

 

[lukethethird]

He turned water into wine.Jesus was attending a wedding and the wine ran out. Very embarrassing. So, what did Jesus do? He turned water into wine (John 2: 1-11)!
That’s one skill I wish I had.

Vee

Turning water into wine using a double walled vessel was a cheap parlor trick.

 

[Deeje]

And sometimes Jesus was far from awesome.

There are always those issues of omission. Issues where Jesus had every opportunity to condemn a practice, but chose not to. The first that comes to mind is slavery, a practice the apostle Peter recognizes and condones

1Peter 2:18-20
"18 Slaves, be willing to serve your masters. Do this with all respect. You should obey the masters who are good and kind, and you should obey the masters who are bad. 19 One of you might have to suffer even when you have done nothing wrong. If you think of God and bear the pain, this pleases God. 20 But if you are punished for doing wrong, there is no reason to praise you for bearing that punishment. But if you suffer for doing good and you are patient, this pleases God.​

Think he would condone anything Jesus was against? Hell no! So it's fair to assume Jesus condoned slavery as well.

Since slavery in Israel was very different to the slavery practiced by other nations, Jesus did not condemn what was, in those times, seen as a form of legitimate employment. Selling oneself into servitude to pay off a debt was no different to the English lower classes selling their services to the rich in exchange for somewhere to live and food in their bellies. It was preferable to begging on the street. Why would Jesus condemn something that worked for everyone? You cannot put today's attitudes on yesterday's practices.

How quickly we forget the way our parents and grandparents raised their children only a few decades ago.....how the schools disciplined their students.....today's kids would be calling 911 to report child abuse!

We were not scared of the law...but of the discipline administered by our own parents....it kept us in line. Much like the law of gravity, that teaches you painfully and immediately not to mess with it.

Today's generation have become a bunch of privileged snowflakes melting under the pressure of not getting what they want. The drug problem among them is so firmly entrenched, that now they are having to test their drugs for them at music festivals so they don't kill themselves. What is with that?

AND, those issues of omission where Jesus had every opportunity to condone a practice, but chose not to. The first to come to mind is homosexuality, a practice Paul recognizes and condemns. Among others passages we have:

1 Timothy 1:9-10
9 We also know that the law is not made for those who do what is right. It is made for those who are against the law and refuse to follow it. The law is for sinners who are against God and all that is pleasing to him. It is for those who have no interest in spiritual things and for those who kill their fathers or mothers or anyone else. 10 It is for those who commit sexual sins, homosexuals, those who sell slaves, those who tell lies, those who don’t tell the truth under oath, and those who are against the true teaching of God.​

Think Paul would condemn anything Jesus didn't? Hell no! So it's fair to assume Jesus condemned homosexuality as well

Since Jesus was Jewish and bound to the Law of Moses, what would his attitude have been towards those who broke God's moral laws?

The Law was not ambiguous....
Leviticus 18:22.....
22 “You must not lie down with a male in the same way that you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable act."

"Detestable" is a pretty strong word, so it stands to reason that Jesus upheld his Father's attitude towards this form of immorality, just as he upheld God's law on divorce. Any action that violated God's moral laws, regardless of gender, merited a strong penalty. Sex was confined to a scripturally married man and woman with a view to starting a family and contributing to society as a new family unit.

Homosexuals throwing tantrums because they want what God forbids is as valid as a pedophile throwing a tantrum for not being able to have sex with consenting children. Many children who have been raised by a parent guilty of grooming them into incest, do not see anything wrong with it. They will often defend their patent in what came to be a consensual sexual relationship. Not every child molester is a monster in that sense. Its still wrong and violates God's law regardless of how the victim views it.

So morally, you can be a practicing homosexual or a Christian....but you cannot be both. Those with gender identity problems need to understand that God does not alter his standards to suit their unnatural fleshly desires. If they desire to become Christians, then sacrifices have to be made to gain God's approval. No one ever died from being celibate. No sacrifice for God goes unrewarded.

So, while Jesus may have done some "awesome" things, he also did some loathsome things.

Ethics wise, Jesus was no different than we mere mortals.

Says who? Someone who identifies as an agnostic but posts like an atheist? Seriously, is there a reason why some people insist on claiming agnosticism when they clearly hate God, hate Jesus and hate the Bible....? They will find any excuse to downgrade everything in the Bible that they can......if there is a God, I am sure that he is in no doubt about where they stand. He is a good judge of character and judging by the way he handled the complainers among the nation of Israel, isn't too keen on their constant negativity....

 

[paarsurrey]

There are many more, but these 3 come to mind:

He threw the sellers out of the temple (John 2:14-16), saying: “Is it not written, ‘My house will be called a house of prayer for all the nations’? But you have made it a cave of robbers.” The sellers were charging exorbitant prices to people who needed to buy animals to sacrifice. Jesus saw that as extortion or robbery, something unacceptable in a place that was meant for prayer and worship.


He taught people how they should treat others. In the sermon on the mount Jesus taught a lot of practical things, but my favorite is the one registered in Luke 6:31 “Also, just as you want men to do to you, do the same way to them”. Very simple, straight to the point, perhaps the best-known statement in that sermon, often called the Golden Rule.


He turned water into wine.Jesus was attending a wedding and the wine ran out. Very embarrassing. So, what did Jesus do? He turned water into wine (John 2: 1-11)!
That’s one skill I wish I had.

Have a wonderful Sunday everyone.

Vee

"He (Jesus) turned water into wine"

What for, please?
Did Moses drink alcoholic-drinks that Jesus should also drink or offer it to his people, please?

Regards

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Did Jesus Make and Drink Alcoholic Wine?