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God has to prove to me that He exists: what kind of proof should I demand?

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
I just cannot fathom how people don’t know there’s a God. To me it’s as obvious as the noonday sun.

And to think that at one time I was a devout atheist!!

Now I’ve found God and my life is full of joy and happiness not to mention inner peace and contentment.

Contentment is the greatest wealth and I’ve found it.
No I do not know whether there is a God that I can receive information from on what I have been doing wrong all these years of truthseeking in front of his eyes and yet come to this conclusion that He does not exist.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
*scratches his head*

It's strange to be an atheist, or perhaps agnostic, yet determine that if God exists he is interventionist.
But whatevs, mate...I'm an atheist anyway, so not like I'm super invested. Just confused me a little.
I assumed that God had powers and abilities perhaps more than it genuinely is for I was led to believe that He is an omni -God. This would be my question and demand for proof if we ever crossed paths again.
 

blü 2

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I see; are you arguing that God belief serves a purpose in evolution of humans as an animal species?
I'm saying others have argued that, yes. Given the universality of religious beliefs and their association with particular tribes or peoples, it doesn't sound too improbable to me, but I haven't explored it.
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
No I do not know whether there is a God that I can receive information from on what I have been doing wrong all these years of truthseeking in front of his eyes and yet come to this conclusion that He does not exist.

It took me a lot of pain before I found God.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
I assumed that God had powers and abilities perhaps more than it genuinely is for I was led to believe that He is an omni -God. This would be my question and demand for proof if we ever crossed paths again.

If you crossed paths...again?
 

Salvador

RF's Swedenborgian
God has to prove to me that He exists: what kind of proof should I demand?

God has already proven himself ... you either see or you refuse to see


For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness .. because that which is known about God is evident within them .. for God made it evident to them .. for since the creation of the world his invisible attributes .. his eternal power and divine nature .. have been clearly seen .. being understood through what has been made .. so that they are without excuse ...... Romans 1:18-20

Now faith is the assurance of things hoped for .. the conviction of things not seen .. for by it the men of old gained approval .. by faith we understand that the worlds were prepared by the word of God .. so that what is seen was not made out of things which are visible ...... Hebrews 11:1-3


There is indeed a mark of intelligence left in our genetic code as evident by how the numeric and semantic message of 037 appears in our genetic code. Each codon relates to 3 other particular codons having the same particular type of initial nucleobase and sequential nucleobase subsequently then followed by a different ending nucleobase. Half of these 4 set of codon groups ( whole family codons ) each code for the same particular amino acid. The other half of those 4 set of codon groups ( split codons ) don't code for the same amino acid. So then, in the case of whole family codons, there are 37 amino acid peptide chain nucleons for each relevant nucleobase determinant of how a particular amino acid gets coded. Start codons express 0 at the beginning of 37 Hence, the meaningful numeric and semantic message of 037 gets unambiguously and factually conveyed to us present day human Earthlings with our genetic code invented by a superior intelligence beyond that of anybody presently bound to Earth.

Reference: The "Wow! signal" of the terrestrial genetic code. Vladimir l. shCherbak and Maxim A. Makukov. Icarus, May 2013,Redirectinghttps://www.scribd.com/document/35302916...netic-Code

This mark of intelligence left in our genetic coding is indicative of an intelligent designer, whom we Earthling humans may never truly understand.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
God has to prove to me that He exists: what kind of proof should I demand?
What is in it for God that He/It/She would interact with me: is a problem that hinders investigation.

No need to "think for God" in my opinion. You just express your need of proof of God"
That is sufficient. What do you want/need. Better not fill in for the other (God this time)
 

The Hammer

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Premium Member
That is what I am doing by this thread: my God concept is limited to how He/It can help me to address my issues of truth-seeking.

A gift for a gift. Try treating the Gods as friends, and not making demands. Your friends are always willing to help, as long as you don't boss them around. Ask for what you need guidance with, give an offering to the Gods, and in turn you may find the answers you seek.

What is it you seek?
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
My search for the truth about Existence has come to this question?

Any ideas?
Is the splendor and design of the universe not enough? Are you not awed beyond words at the intricacy of DNA, the miracle of new human life and its birth, the birth of a new star amidst a nebula?
 

Workman

UNIQUE
I just wanted to know whether a God of any description exists in Nature for me to be able to seek help from, and what I should do to find that God. Is it within me or outside of me?
God is Nature..We too are from same Nature. The description you seek for is within you..Your Soul! But you blindly chose in not recognizing it! Leading your spirit out wide in the open and for its being in GREAT danger(your problems). God has ALWAYS lived in one..and has NEVER left one..for it was you! whom never did TRY to find God..from this is the lack in ones reason to think he knows NOT of God. And so many are to say “God doesn’t exist!”. It doesn’t offend me..for that is not my problem..unless one asks for help!.Then they’re to make (mine) my problem..with its problem I’m referring to is agitation..agitation is a cause by sin..in the majority whom suffers from mental illnesses are directed to those whom are the non-believers in a GOD.
Even with this proof may NOT be good enough evidence for many! But like I said: it is not my PLACE and PROBLEM..
You will not find God YET from outside, you would HAVE TO! seek deep inside, For God lives inside of one. Your(The) Outside does not exist if it weren’t for your(The) inside(s). You need to find God inside FIRST in order to see God outside of you..GOD ALWAYS works in ORDER!

When praying, speak through your insides..and speak through your feelings..BELIEVE! in your connection to God. God will Only answer through Gods perfect way..NOT IN YOUR own time/understanding..but in Gods perfect timing and way for YOU and of the REST to be in its perfect WAY of order. your Soul and your Spirit are the direct connection to God. This is where God hears our prayers.

Hope you find your Peace..
God bless
 
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Shantanu

Well-Known Member
God has to prove to me that He exists: what kind of proof should I demand?


No need to "think for God" in my opinion. You just express your need of proof of God"
That is sufficient. What do you want/need. Better not fill in for the other (God this time)
I am patient: let God take Its time and convince me that It will once again communicate with me to prove Its existence, since I do not wish to live delusionally.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
A gift for a gift. Try treating the Gods as friends, and not making demands. Your friends are always willing to help, as long as you don't boss them around. Ask for what you need guidance with, give an offering to the Gods, and in turn you may find the answers you seek.

What is it you seek?
I am grateful for any help I can get from friends and I also have to keep my eyes wide open for any God to manifest Itself upon me.

What I seek is knowledge, factual information.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
Is the splendor and design of the universe not enough? Are you not awed beyond words at the intricacy of DNA, the miracle of new human life and its birth, the birth of a new star amidst a nebula?
One can appreciate Nature in all its forms, but there is nothing that can parallel the beauty of being in conversation with the Creator: this is what is important for me.
 

Shantanu

Well-Known Member
God is Nature..We too are from same Nature. The description you seek for is within you..Your Soul!
But you blindly chose in not recognizing it! Leading your spirit out wide in the open and for its being in GREAT danger(your problems).
God has ALWAYS lived in one..and has NEVER left one..for it was you! whom never did TRY to find God..from this is the lack in ones reason to think he knows NOT of God. And so many are to say “God doesn’t exist!”. It doesn’t offend me..for that is not my problem..unless one asks for help!.Then they’re to make (mine) my problem..with its problem I’m referring to is agitation..agitation is a cause by sin..in the majority whom suffers from mental illnesses are directly to those non-believers in a GOD.
Even with this proof may NOT be good enough evidence for many! But like I said: it is not my PLACE and PROBLEM..
You will not find God YET from outside, you would HAVE TO! seek deep inside, For God lives inside of one. Your(The) Outside does not exist if it weren’t for your(The) inside(s). You need to find God inside FIRST in order to see God outside of you..GOD ALWAYS works in ORDER!

When praying, speak through your insides..and speak through your feelings..BELIEVE! in your connection to God. God will Only answer through Gods perfect way..NOT IN YOUR own time/understanding..but in Gods perfect timing and way for YOU and the REST to be in its perfect WAY. your Soul and your Spirit are the direct connection to God. This is where God hears our prayers.

Hope you find your Peace..
God bless
Thank you for these words of wisdom.
 

Workman

UNIQUE
Thank you for these words of wisdom.
The Only way to God is through your understanding..and your understanding would have to be wise enough to find in THE(God)..and if you don’t understand who God is is because you have been robbed of in your faith(understanding)..this world has robbed your time and faith..therefore your time for God has limited your understanding! You see!, you have been deceived by your mind of certain knowledge that does not exist! Meaning the reason why you don’t believe in God is because you don’t understand or a non-understanding or mis-understanding..of it! All these do NOT exist! You have chose not to understand in it!..this world has stolen your time and understanding than blindly making you choosing not to give time and the understanding for God..in other words!. There is NO such meaning as mis-understanding or non-understanding..it was you choosing not to understand God(unawarely)..
Our minds are as powerful as Einstein’s...einstein gave its understanding ALL his TIME..and let the mind do the rest!..this is what you need to do for God..this is why God says to have the sabbath..it is for your mind to find the understanding..and it comes down to ones own time, this will be the key for all this to happen(AND IT WILL BE FROM YOUR FREE-WILL THAT WILL GIVE ITS TIME TO)..so I would recommend with the time you have left should owe that to God(for only The worthy and earnest will find in God) ..if your seeking in God. You must work for it..it is not free! To reach God you would have to come out of your box and be more wise with your decisions.
 
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