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Show me a ROMAN document that mentions "Syria-Palestine" from the first century.Cute. Galilee and Perea were a client state of the Roman Empire in Syria-Palestine.
Show me a ROMAN document that mentions "Syria-Palestine" from the first century.
Show me a ROMAN document that mentions "Syria-Palestine" from the first century.
Sorry, that's not what i asked for.Try this.
What was Historical Syria and Phoenicia? Is there confusion?
phoenicia.org/syria.html
Historical documents: Lebanon before Syria 5000 thousand years! The first mention of the name of Lebanon was recorded in the Epistle of Gilgamesh 5000 years before Christ. The first mention of the word Syria was given in the Roman era of 64 BC -- means after …
(You do know that there is MORE to the history of the Levant, Mesopotamia and Syria-Palestine than just Jewish history, don't you?)
Fair enough.Okay, that's what I originally started off saying, that the whole territory ruled by Herod was Judea.
What caused me problems was when I remembered that you could also divide it into Judea, Samaria and Gallilee. Then I thought, "Wait... Is Judea a smaller territory within, or is it the name of the complete territory?" and I doubted myself. Hey I *do* make mistakes. So I backed off and said I didn't know the name of the territory.
But apparently it's like "New York, New York," where Judea is a smaller territory, within the complete territory ruled by Herod.
Fair enough.
It looks as if Judea or Judah was in Judaea.
I will keep a look out for any other collective name, but it looks as if shown in sooda's link.
I like this map.
And the kingdom is called Judaea. There is nothing called Palestine on the map, or Syria-Palestine.
I like this map.
Further north there is trachonitis, gaulotinis, gadarenes.
But in your link after 37bc the Romans seem to have called the whole lot, Judaea.
Syria and Palestine: from the 6th century BC
The Roman rulers are not the first to link Syria administratively with Palestine. In the late 6th century Darius makes Syria and Palestine, together with Cyprus, the fifth satrapy of his empire. During the Seleucid dynasty Syria and Palestine are under joint control in the 2nd century. Then, for some 700 years from the 1st century BC, the Roman and Byzantine empires unite the region.
The three main cities are the very ancient Damascus and the more recent Antioch in Syria, and Jerusalem in Palestine. Of these it is Jerusalem which has a turbulent history in Roman times. The Jews of Palestine prove exceptionally hard to govern.
HISTORY OF SYRIA AND PALESTINE
Yes! We know what that History channel wrote, Sooda.
What we don't know is whether there is any evidence for this channel's accounts.
But I already have read it, when you first linked it. And during the time that interests me, early first century 'Lands of King Herod' the Romans seem to have called the whole lot Judaea with an extra 'A'. Here it is, all over again:-
Herod the Great: 37-4 BC
Herod is in Rome in 40 BC, when the senate appoints him king of Judaea (the Roman name for the area round Jerusalem). He returns to the east with a Roman army, and by 37 BC is firmly in control of his new kingdom. He will rule it till his death in 4 BC, becoming known to history as Herod the Great.
Sooda......... I don't give a hoot whether all the provinces had no collective name, or were called Palestine, or Israel, or Ballyhoo. You're link has not shown evidence (from those times) for any name..... I am still not sure.
Yes! We know what that History channel wrote, Sooda.
What we don't know is whether there is any evidence for this channel's accounts.
But I already have read it, when you first linked it. And during the time that interests me, early first century 'Lands of King Herod' the Romans seem to have called the whole lot Judaea with an extra 'A'. Here it is, all over again:-
Herod the Great: 37-4 BC
Herod is in Rome in 40 BC, when the senate appoints him king of Judaea (the Roman name for the area round Jerusalem). He returns to the east with a Roman army, and by 37 BC is firmly in control of his new kingdom. He will rule it till his death in 4 BC, becoming known to history as Herod the Great.
Sooda......... I don't give a hoot whether all the provinces had no collective name, or were called Palestine, or Israel, or Ballyhoo. You're link has not shown evidence (from those times) for any name..... I am still not sure.
My interest is in early first century.Has NOTHING to do with the History Channel. Darius called the area Syria Palestine. The history of Persia is NOT a secret.
My interest is in early first century.
I did not challenge the name Palestine, another member did.
I am only interested in any collective name during the time of Jesus.
I like the map in the previous post.How about the Library of Congress?
Palestine in the time of Jesus, 4 B.C. - 30 A.D. : (including the period of Herod, 40 - 4 B.C.)
Palestine in the time of Jesus, 4 B.C. - 30 A.D. : (including the period of Herod, 40 - 4 B.C.)
I like the map in the previous post.
Now, was Herod and the Romans calling the collective of provinces Palestine or Judaea?
Judea, Samaria, Galilee were all within Syria-Palestine long before the Romans took over.