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Why the theory of evolution is so important

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
no, nobody has ever observed a process that takes millions of years to unfold. :rolleyes:

nobody has ever observed a process that takes millions of years to unfold

And you believe this?

Despite no witnesses to this?
Unverified evidence?

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A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
So where is the soup?
I want to observe the soup.

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Since we cannot observe God or any part of any story in the Bible.
How about observing the SOUP?
But where is that again?
I should have guessed that you haven't followed any of the research into abiogenesis that has gone on. Specifically, researchers have synthesized RNA enzymes that can replicate themselves without the help of any proteins or other cellular components, and the process proceeds indefinitely. Self-replicating molecules have been created in a lab from nothing but the raw materials in a "soup." Now - this isn't exactly "life", of course... but it is considered the precursor to life. We're talking molecules alone that can "reproduce" after a fashion. Make more of themselves, in other words - and the researchers even noted that sometimes different elements are chained in at times, causing transcription "errors" - and what this results in is a new, "mutated" molecule, slightly different from its "parent" molecule. A process hinting at the mechanisms supporting biological diversity and evolution.

So yeah... keep posting soup can images and laughing to yourself in some dark corner. That look is really working for you.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
There is no objective verifiable evidence that mermaids exist except in phoney carny side shows which you seem to endorse blindly and enthusiastically..

Was it gradual or instant?
Or there were mutations like half of this and half of that

Is it really possible - how about half human and half horse?

 

A Vestigial Mote

Well-Known Member
I think the soup is made up of sweet dreams.

And I think posting music videos in response to anything is one of the dumbest things you could possibly be doing in this situation. And unfortunately you're not alone in the practice! A sad state of affairs indeed.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Was it gradual or instant?
Or there were mutations like half of this and half of that

evolution is gradual ove hundreds of thousands and millions of years

Is it really possible - how about half human and half horse?


There is no objective verifiable evidence that anything in your Creationist cartoons exists except in phoney carny side shows which you seem to endorse blindly and enthusiastically..
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
evolution is gradual ove hundreds of thousands and millions of years

There is no objective verifiable evidence that anything in your Creationist cartoons exists except in phoney carny side shows which you seem to endorse blindly and enthusiastically..

Don't be serious pops.

since you are Baha'i which mix various faiths like Islam
I just finished a video about what is evolution in Islam

 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
The angels [cherubim] in heaven.

Genesis 1:26
Then God said, “Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us. They will reign over the fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the livestock, all the wild animals on the earth, and the small animals that scurry along the ground.”

Genesis 1:27
So God created human beings in his own image.
In the image of God he created them;
male and female he created them


A cherub (/ˈtʃɛrəb/; plural cherubim; Hebrew: כְּרוּב‎ kərūv, pl. כְּרוּבִים kərūvîm) is one of the unearthly beings who directly attend to God according to Abrahamic religions. The numerous depictions of cherubim assign to them many different roles; their original duty having been the protection of the Garden of Eden.
Cherub - Wikipedia
Okay, angels you say. Where can I find one of these angels? How can I test for their existence? Which one wrote down their observations about the creation of the universe?

So God looks like a human?

Also, why do you think someone had to be there to witness everything that happened in the universe's/earth's past?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Dear Subduction Zone,

Why don't you just TRY to REFUTE what I have brought forth to you directly, instead of whining about it all day long. Is it because you have no answer or rebuttal to come back to me... contrary to what I have posted??? Also, please explain to us the Magical Evolution Process that you are so eagerly defending and ready to die for. Thanks

As I have said before, Ape/monkey societies are Not Human Civilizations. Some Evols would have us believe that we ARE Apes. We are the descendants of Adam and the sons of God.

The sons of God (Prehistoric Man) never wrote a book, nor built a city. Humans, Adam, was made on the 3rd Day and the sons of God were created from the water on the 5th Day. Pre-Noah Humans were from Adam, and the sons of God are referred to by Evols, as Caveman.

The reason Humans have the DNA and ERVs of the common ancestor of Apes is because today's Humans ARE the children of Noah's descendants and the prehistoric people who were already here and had been for Millions of years BEFORE Noah arrived. That is WHY we have the Human intelligence which ONLY Adam and God had, Gen 3:22 but we also contain the DNA and ERVs of the common ancestor of Apes within our Human bloodstreams. This does NOT mean that we evolved from them but that our Human blood was contaminated by them. It cost Humans 90% of our lifetimes because of this.

The problem with the False ToE is that it does NOT know that Humans came to this Earth in an Ark. It's because they have rejected God's Truth and now they are stuck with their incomplete view, because they have been force teaching it to our children for more than 50 years. It's against the Constitution to teach one's UnSupported "beliefs" to our children in the Public Schools. God

Don't look for Science to recognize this event since it absolutely DESTROYS the idea that we magically evolved from Apes, because there is NO evidence of How and When prehistoric people became Human. In order to believe such foolishness, you MUST accept the False idea that Humans Magically changed from animal to Human intelligence.

That is the FALSE Religion (belief) that is being forced upon our children in the Public Schools. With NO evidence, it's nothing more than a False Religion and totally UnConstitutional.


Don't believe me? Then produce evidence of How and When prehistoric people changed from animal to Human intelligence.

There is NONE. I will wait for you to post just ONE piece of evidence which shows this, but I won't hold my breath.
Do you have anything to back up any of this?

And since you don't seem to know what evolution is, and have asked for an explanation, I wonder why and how you have declared it to be a religion? What does it share in common with religion?
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
So where is the soup?
I want to observe the soup.

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Since we cannot observe God or any part of any story in the Bible.
How about observing the SOUP?
But where is that again?
You need some education in the basics. Right now you do not know what observations are, are you willing to try to learn?

By the way did you watch all forty plus videos of AronRa? He does go over quite a few of the answers that you ask for.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
Dear Readers,

The FIRST words of Adam as documented in the Scripture describes changes WITHIN His kinds or micro-evolution.

Gen 2:23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.

Some godless men also call it “evolution” when two produce one.

Gen 2:24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.
Mat 19:5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?
Eph 5:31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.

Evolution is the measured change in the genetics when two separate beings produce another totally separate individual, in a population, over time. Gen 6:1-4 also shows that the sons of God (prehistoric people) can produce children with Adam's descendants and in the process, the children change from animal to the Superior Human intelligence of Adam, which is like God's. Gen 3:22

IOW, In order to become a Human, you MUST inherit the Human intelligence of Adam, the first Human. That's God's Truth. Don't believe the words of Godless Evols since they CANNOT show us How or When we magically evolved from Ape to Human Intelligence.
No. Just no. On so many levels.

You need to take some time to learn about what evolution is. Here's a good place to start:
An introduction to evolution
 
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SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
A theory may explain proven facts that may or may not lead to proving the theory that a universe of mindless matter has produced beings with intrinsic ends, self- replication capabilities, and “coded chemistry.” But until it can prove that there is no intelligent design behind the creation of those life forms, it will remain no more than a theory.

I myself believe that the space station and all its complex and intricate earth bound support systems evolved from the wheel, but I also believe that from the creation of the wheel, came billions of other creations that represented the height to which the mind of the creator of the wheel had evolved to at the time of each subsequent creation, and when the creator of the wheel had evolved, the technology, to manufacture the necessary material, and all the support systems needed for the creation of said space station, the creator finally said, "And now let us create the Space Station."

And the theory of Gravity, does not explain what gravity really is. We know what gravity does, but we do not know what gravity is, and so it will remain no more than a theory until such time as that can be explained.

What is gravity?
No. It will always be a theory.
Gravity is a theory and a law.

1.3: Hypothesis, Theories, and Laws
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
No. It will always be a theory.
Gravity is a theory and a law.

1.3: Hypothesis, Theories, and Laws
One point, theories can modify or replace laws. Newton's Law of Gravity was known to have troubles before Einstein came up with the Theory of General Relativity. That theory explained the parts of physics that applying Newton's Law got wrong. People have this strange idea that theories can become laws when in reality that would be a demotion in the world of the sciences.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
So where is the soup?
I want to observe the soup.

View attachment 27975


Since we cannot observe God or any part of any story in the Bible.
How about observing the SOUP?
But where is that again?

The expression 'Primordial Soup' is a little old, and today only an anecdotal expression of the environment where life originated. The present science of earliest life dates between ~3.5 billion years ago where definite fossil of earliest life have been found, and ~4.54 billion years ago when the first signs of life have been found. There several candidates of environments associated with the finds of earliest simplist life forms. They are around the hot vents of in ocean ridges, hot springs associated with volcanics, and swamp environments in tidal zones sometimes called the 'Primordial Soup.'l pools. The first two are favored for various reason,, but most important the presence of heat energy and abundant nutrients needed for the nursery for the earliest simple life forms.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Don't be serious pops.

since you are Baha'i which mix various faiths like Islam
I just finished a video about what is evolution in Islam


By the evidence Christianity is mix of Judaism, Roman polytheism, Sumerian, Babylonian, Canaanite, Ugarit scripture and beliefs with some Zoroastrian beliefs thrown in.

The more ancient mythical views of the origins and natural history of humanity based on ancient interpretations scripture are not compatable with neither science nor the Baha'i Faith.

Time to move on . . .
 

Seve

Member
I have waited in Vain for just One Godless Evol to produce evidence of How and When we changed from animal to Human Intelligence. No one has.

Evolution is a Failed Theory. Quit teaching that we Evolved our Human Intelligence Naturally, since it is Nothing more than a False Assumption by heathens
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
I have waited in Vain for just One Godless Evol to produce evidence of How and When we changed from animal to Human Intelligence. No one has.

Evolution is a Failed Theory. Quit teaching that we Evolved our Human Intelligence Naturally, since it is Nothing more than a False Assumption by heathens
That is because your question has an unjustified question in it.

You have failed to answer:

"Have you quit beating your wife yet?"

If that is an inappropriate question for you then you should be able to see how you asked an inappropriate question. The failure is not in those that accept reality. The failure is yours.
 

Seve

Member
That is because your question has an unjustified question in it.

You have failed to answer:

"Have you quit beating your wife yet?"

If that is an inappropriate question for you then you should be able to see how you asked an inappropriate question. The failure is not in those that accept reality. The failure is yours.

OK ... Let us test your reasoning if it is valid and not an excuse ....

BUMP... BUMP....BUMP

I have waited in Vain for just One Godless Evol to produce evidence of How and When we changed from animal to Human Intelligence. No one has.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
OK ... Let us test your reasoning if it is valid and not an excuse ....

BUMP... BUMP....BUMP

I have waited in Vain for just One Godless Evol to produce evidence of How and When we changed from animal to Human Intelligence. No one has.


Human intelligence *is* animal intelligence because we are, biologically, animals.

Our intelligence increased greatly when our brains expanded, probably because of the demands of larger social structures and tool use.

Note: please tone down the colorful posts and bold font.
 

MJFlores

Well-Known Member
Okay, angels you say. Where can I find one of these angels? How can I test for their existence? Which one wrote down their observations about the creation of the universe?

So God looks like a human?

Also, why do you think someone had to be there to witness everything that happened in the universe's/earth's past?

There will be a time when will all see these angels.
That would be on the second advent of Jesus Christ.
For now we just have to wait.

Record keeping on observations are activities of humans
Because we have limited life and limited memories
The all knowing God however have unlimited knowledge Isaiah 46:9-10

God is not human Numbers 23:19

I believe a lot of beings witness everything from the start - the cherubims
When God created all things.
Nothing comes from nothing
Nothing ever could

What is absurd is when
Something comes from nothing
That would require
Blind faith, something that comes from
guesswork and myths
 
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