A New Dark Age For Europe

[shmogie]

Unrighteous judgment is judging the poor or rich differently because they are poor or rich (Leviticus 19:15) The same goes for religions. Both the "Christians" and the "Muslims" have their own false prophets, and their fruit is often rotten as a consequence (Matthew 7:15-20). The actions of Muslims are supposedly regulated by the writings of their false prophet Mohammad. The actions of "Christians", are often regulated by their false prophet Paul. One does not love their neighbor by turning a lion loose in their backyard. If you want to love your enemies, feed them, give them water, and shelter. And if you want to show how "Christians", the followers of the false prophet Paul, kill more Muslims than Muslims kill "Christians" I am willing to look at your data. In general, Muslims kill Muslims, but do seem good at persecuting "Christians" and Jews, and ridding them from their countries through persecution. As a consequence, they generally live in poverty and turmoil. The problem of "Christians" and Muslims, are mostly of their own making. This is an example of how you love your neighbor: Rise and Rebuild 11 minutes

Leviticus 19:15
'You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you are to judge your neighbor fairly.

Paul, a false prophet ? He never claimed to be a prophet, and he was accepted and ordained an Apostle by the other 11.
Those who don´t like what he says, bring this old, tired, canard up, and by doing so, show their ignorance and spite.

Islam has been the greatest killing machine in history. Itś founder and founding are rooted in conquest, and most of itś nations were Christian, peacefully converted by their own choice. The were converted to islam by sword and fire.

The crusades were an effort to defend against constant muslim violence and to regain some Christian territory, they are small in comparison to islamic efforts at conquest.

Few serious historians would contend that Christians killed more muslims, than vice versa.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Islam has been the greatest killing machine in history.

Sorry, That would be Christians you're thinking of. Christians converted far more "by fire and sword" than Muslims have. The elephant in the room you're not addressing is called "the New World Conquest", which, strangely, Americans seem to have a major blind spot regarding. You're also rather ignoring much of Europe, Africa and Australia, where Christianity spread at the point of a sword, then later a gun.

Also, your understanding of the Crusades is completely wrong. I can link you to an excellent podcast that will correct your misunderstanding with cited facts, if you like? Assuming you wish to be historically accurate, that is. If you would rather persist in the convenient myth you are currently spouting, as you were, I guess.
Episode #58 – How Do You Explain the First Crusade? (Part I) – Our Fake History

Few serious historians would contend that Christians killed more muslims, than vice versa.

If by "serious historian" you mean "pseudo historian who tells me myths to prop up modern agendas" sure. If you mean, you know, actual serious historians, not so much.

 

[Notanumber]

Bill Warner is an excellent educator.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Bill Warner is an excellent educator.

Yep, I always ask physics and mathematics doctors for expert opinions on world religions

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Amazing how you can decide what God would, or wouldn´t do.

There is only one God, though you decide what He should do, He does what He does, without much notice of your objections.

You have your beliefs, and I have mine. And the true God will judge between us in the end.

 

[sooda]

Paul, a false prophet ? He never claimed to be a prophet, and he was accepted and ordained an Apostle by the other 11.
Those who don´t like what he says, bring this old, tired, canard up, and by doing so, show their ignorance and spite.

Islam has been the greatest killing machine in history. Itś founder and founding are rooted in conquest, and most of itś nations were Christian, peacefully converted by their own choice. The were converted to islam by sword and fire.

The crusades were an effort to defend against constant muslim violence and to regain some Christian territory, they are small in comparison to islamic efforts at conquest.

Few serious historians would contend that Christians killed more muslims, than vice versa.

Most converted to Islam peacefully.. The Arabs had trade routes from Egypt to Yemen to Mesopotamia and the Levant to the Arabia Peninsula, East Africa and the Indus Valley for a thousand years before Judaism. So they had relationships based on trade and intermarriage before the advent of Islam..

 

[FirstandAmistad]

Lol I love the assertion that Muslims will plunge Europe into another dark age when Europe was in its last dark age it was large part due to intellectual suppression by the Christian (gasp!) Church while the Muslim world was experiencing its Golden Age and was a flourishing home of the arts and sciences.

The enemy of progress and harmony isn't Islam. It's theocracy (yes, Islamic theocracy included but certainly not alone) and any other system that tries to force people to commit to its tenants without critical thinking or freedom of thought, expression, and assembly. We're all people, first and foremost.

 

[sooda]

Lol I love the assertion that Muslims will plunge Europe into another dark age when Europe was in its last dark age it was large part due to intellectual suppression by the Christian (gasp!) Church while the Muslim world was experiencing its Golden Age and was a flourishing home of the arts and sciences.

The enemy of progress and harmony isn't Islam. It's theocracy (yes, Islamic theocracy included but certainly not alone) and any other system that tries to force people to commit to its tenants without critical thinking or freedom of thought, expression, and assembly. We're all people, first and foremost.

Exactly. Muslim Spain was the Golden Age of Judaism. They had street lights, public baths and garbage pick-up when my ancestors were still painting themselves blue.

The Dark Ages in Europe coincided with the spread of Christianity.

 

[shmogie]

You have your beliefs, and I have mine. And the true God will judge between us in the end.

amen friend

 

[Notanumber]

Yep, I always ask physics and mathematics doctors for expert opinions on world religions

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If you are a better expert, please tell us what Bill has got wrong?

 

[PureX]

No one is forcing anyone else to listen to their opinions yet. If you don’t like what someone says, stop listening.

It is impossible to slander an ideology no matter how some like to twist things to their advantage.

You can lie and misrepresent an ideology just as you can lie and misrepresent an individual. And you can ferment violence toward those who hold that ideology with slander just as you can ferment violence toward an individual with slander. But, clearly, you have no interest in understanding this, and you will continue to steadfastly maintain and spread your ignorance. So I see no value in continuing this.

 

[Notanumber]

You can lie and misrepresent an ideology just as you can lie and misrepresent an individual. And you can ferment violence toward those who hold that ideology with slander just as you can ferment violence toward an individual with slander. But, clearly, you have no interest in understanding this, and you will continue to steadfastly maintain and spread your ignorance. So I see no value in continuing this.

If I was a Flat-earther, do you think for one moment that I would give two hoots about you if you slandered my ideology?

What gives your ideology greater significance than mine?

They are both mumbo jumbo.

 

[PureX]

If I was a Flat-earther, do you think for one moment that I would give two hoots about you if you slandered my ideology?

What gives your ideology greater significance than mine?

They are both mumbo jumbo.

It's not about who's ideology is "right". It's about instigating harm toward others using speech based on ideology (or on race, or politics, or wealth, or gender, or sexual preference, or ... whatever). When you are harmed by the slanderous, deliberately incendiary speech of others, you will care. Just as anyone will when they are harmed by the deliberate actions of others.

 

[Notanumber]

It's not about who's ideology is "right". It's about instigating harm toward others using speech based on ideology (or on race, or politics, or wealth, or gender, or sexual preference, or ... whatever). When you are harmed by the slanderous, deliberately incendiary speech of others, you will care. Just as anyone will when they are harmed by the deliberate actions of others.

You or anyone else can slander my atheism if you like but you will have to wait a very long time to get any kind of reaction.

BTW, we are talking about ideologies here.

 

[2ndpillar]

Paul, a false prophet ? He never claimed to be a prophet, and he was accepted and ordained an Apostle by the other 11.
Those who don´t like what he says, bring this old, tired, canard up, and by doing so, show their ignorance and spite.

Paul claims to speak for God, except where he stipulates that he is speaking his own mind, and is accepted by his followers as speaking for God. And Paul was accepted to carry a message, which he apparently lost, for he eats that which was sacrificed to demons, according to some unknown author of Acts, who might have been Luke, who witnessed nothing (Luke 1:1-3), and was supposedly an associate of Paul, who would be a source for Luke. If someone is their own witness, their witness is "not true" (John 5:31). As for the witness of the unknown author of 2 Peter 3, well, it is from an unknown author, who is playing at being Peter, who was the "worthless shepherd" of Zechariah 11:16-17, who would not care, feed, or fend the sheep, but who would "eave the flock" (Zechariah 11:17) & (Acts 15:7). Also the "worthless shepherd" was the 2nd "staff" taken to "pasture" the "flock doomed for slaughter" (Zechariah 11:7). It would be best to not be a member of that flock.

 

[sooda]

Paul claims to speak for God, except where he stipulates that he is speaking his own mind, and is accepted by his followers as speaking for God.

And Paul was accepted to carry a message, which he apparently lost, for he eats that which was sacrificed to demons, according to some unknown author of Acts, who might have been Luke, who witnessed nothing (Luke 1:1-3), and was supposedly an associate of Paul, who would be a source for Luke.

If someone is their own witness, their witness is "not true" (John 5:31). As for the witness of the unknown author of 2 Peter 3, well, it is from an unknown author, who is playing at being Peter, who was the "worthless shepherd" of Zechariah 11:16-17, who would not care, feed, or fend the sheep, but who would "eave the flock" (Zechariah 11:17) & (Acts 15:7). Also the "worthless shepherd" was the 2nd "staff" taken to "pasture" the "flock doomed for slaughter" (Zechariah 11:7). It would be best to not be a member of that flock.

Who was "sacrificing to demons"?

 

[Faithofchristian]

If you follow Jesus you would not make so bad comments about other religious people, Jesus would not make critique of muslims in the way you do, so why do you get so angry when someone say they do not have a problem with muslims?

You think Jesus wouldn't make critique of Muslims.
Maybe you should read the book of Revelation and see what Jesus has to say about Muslims.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I was quoting a verse from the bible, a conversation between a lawyer and your jesus. nothing to do with anyone else at anoher time? But if you are happy choosing other verses to change the meaning of what your jesus said that is entirely up to you?

Maybe before you quote anything, maybe you should see what the subject and Article is about first.

But maybe you don't know how to do that

 

[sooda]

You think Jesus wouldn't make critique of Muslims.
Maybe you should read the book of Revelation and see what Jesus has to say about Muslims.

What did Jesus say about Muslims in Revelation?

 

[Samantha Rinne]

I have recently encountered several interviews with Muslims in Europe.
A common thread in the interviews was a desire to outbreed native Europeans and impose Muslim religion and culture.

We have seen what muslim-majority countries look like.

Should the rest of the civilized world prepare for a flood of refugees from Europe as their countries descend into barbarity?

A new Post that will push Muslims down?

Not all muslims want to push their belief on others, Personally i have not yet met any muslims in Norway that have wanted me dead, or wanted to converted me by force, nor do they hate me as person. I have had many good long discussions with muslims both from Sunni and shia. They may ask why i do not want to convert, and when i tell them why they accept this with no problems.

Actually, it was a simple question. If we don't have the right to ask simple questions, we have bigger things indeed to worry about than Islam.

If you want a pretty good analysis of Islam, watch The Breadwinner. It shows Afghanistan under the Taliban. The main character, a girl named (Parvana) has her dad taken to prison for no crime besides teaching her history while she sits and helps watch his store outside. Under the law, women cannot buy or sell, must remain covered, can barely fetch water, and are expected to travel only with men, and everyone male or female has to abide a curfew. And so, as the only man of the house who isn't an infant, the family is basically set up to starve. The buildings are war-torn, and male children about 12 are holding semi-automatics, expected to fight. Parvana goes with her mom to beg for her father's release and her mom gets caned without hearing any explanation because she's not supposed to be outside and it's indecent and immoral (or something). She eventually has to disguise herself as a boy, in order so the family can buy just a loaf of bread or two and some rice. When Parvana finally does get to the prison, they beat her even as a boy, and later try to kill her. The family tries to get help from an in-law, and practically gets kidnapped, screaming child and all, meaning Parvana will return to an empty house. Oh yes, and her older brother from a "toy" on the street that exploded, when he was about her age. It doesn't paint the US well either, showing them mainly just fly by to bomb things.

I think there could be a few things understood about Islam made more harsh by the West, but I don't think you can make all of this up.